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I was wondering if anyone had any insight into voting from abroad in the coming election. I (a Canadian citizen) immigrated to the US with a CR-1 visa in May of this year and was under the impression that I could vote by mail with a special/international ballot while residing outside of Canada. However, upon looking into registering for said ballot, I read that just last week two Ontario courts upheld rulings that deny Canadians living abroad for 5 years or more the right to vote. This is concerning and confusing as when I filled out the questionnaire on elections.ca, they informed me that I was "not eligible to be in the International Register and vote by special ballot" due to my answering "No" to the question "Do you intend to return to live in Canada?" despite my not having lived outside of the country for 5 years or more. Does anyone else have any experience with voting in a Canadian while abroad?

Here are some articles on the voting ban for those interested (not promising they are all unbiased):

CBC

Huffpost

Rabble

Any insight on any of this situation would be much appreciated.

Also please note: I am not asking if you believe I should or shouldn't have the right to vote, only if you have any further information on the situation.

Thanks.

- Mr. Chickie (Canadian husband)


 

~12-25-2006: met online (a blog site)
05-01-2013: FINALLY MET IN PERSON! in Canada
05-04-2013: finally became a couple
06-14-2014: got engaged
08-08-2014: got married in Canada
09-18-2014: sent I-130 via UPS, 142 pages in total
09-19-2014: I-130 arrived and signed for
09-24-2014: NOA1 text & hard copy received same day, Vermont Service Center
11-20-2014: NOA2 (I-130 approval!) hard copy received, 57 days from NOA1


12-08-2014: NVC received case
01-14-2015: case number and IIN number received via email
01-14-2015: DS-261 submitted
01-14-2015: AOS fee paid
01-22-2015: IV fee paid
01-24-2015: DS-260 submitted
01-25-2015: AOS and IV documents submitted electronically
02-18-2015: petitioner's proof of US domicile submitted electronically
02-25-2015: email confirmation received (31 days after sending!), scan date of 01-26-2015 <--60 day wait starts
03-24-2015: email confirmation received (34 days after sending!), scan date of 02-18-2015 <--60 day wait starts (a 2nd time)
03-31-2015: case completed at NVC! 2/18 documents got reviewed with the 1/26 ones, 64 days from original scan date

 

04-07-2015: case complete email received
04-22-2015: interview date email received
05-13-2015: medical in Montreal

05-19-2015: picked up medical results
05-20-2015: interview in Montreal --- APPROVED!, 238 days from NOA1

05-25-2015: passport/visa received!

05-30-2015: POE, Calais/St Stephen land crossing, 248 days from NOA1

06-03-2015: paid ELIS fee

06-10-2015: SSN received

07-02-2015: green card received!


03-13-2017: sent I-751 via USPS to Vermont Service Center, 156 pages in total 
03-14-2017: I-751 arrived and signed for

03-23-2017: NOA1 received, dated 03-16-2017

04-07-2017: biometrics appointment letter received 
04-18-2017: biometrics appointment 

02-05-2018: I-751 approval received!, dated 02-01-2018

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Met Playing Everquest in 2005
Engaged 9-15-2006
K-1 & 4 K-2'S
Filed 05-09-07
Interview 03-12-08
Visa received 04-21-08
Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
Filed 10-17-10
Cards Received02-22-11
Citizenship
Filed 10-17-11
Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

Citizenship for older 2 boys

Filed 03/08/2014

NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

Biometrics 04/15/14

Interview 05/29/14

In line for Oath 06/20/14

Oath 09/19/2014 We are all done! All USC no more USCIS

 

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Thank you, Ontarkie! I appreciate the link. Signed.


 

~12-25-2006: met online (a blog site)
05-01-2013: FINALLY MET IN PERSON! in Canada
05-04-2013: finally became a couple
06-14-2014: got engaged
08-08-2014: got married in Canada
09-18-2014: sent I-130 via UPS, 142 pages in total
09-19-2014: I-130 arrived and signed for
09-24-2014: NOA1 text & hard copy received same day, Vermont Service Center
11-20-2014: NOA2 (I-130 approval!) hard copy received, 57 days from NOA1


12-08-2014: NVC received case
01-14-2015: case number and IIN number received via email
01-14-2015: DS-261 submitted
01-14-2015: AOS fee paid
01-22-2015: IV fee paid
01-24-2015: DS-260 submitted
01-25-2015: AOS and IV documents submitted electronically
02-18-2015: petitioner's proof of US domicile submitted electronically
02-25-2015: email confirmation received (31 days after sending!), scan date of 01-26-2015 <--60 day wait starts
03-24-2015: email confirmation received (34 days after sending!), scan date of 02-18-2015 <--60 day wait starts (a 2nd time)
03-31-2015: case completed at NVC! 2/18 documents got reviewed with the 1/26 ones, 64 days from original scan date

 

04-07-2015: case complete email received
04-22-2015: interview date email received
05-13-2015: medical in Montreal

05-19-2015: picked up medical results
05-20-2015: interview in Montreal --- APPROVED!, 238 days from NOA1

05-25-2015: passport/visa received!

05-30-2015: POE, Calais/St Stephen land crossing, 248 days from NOA1

06-03-2015: paid ELIS fee

06-10-2015: SSN received

07-02-2015: green card received!


03-13-2017: sent I-751 via USPS to Vermont Service Center, 156 pages in total 
03-14-2017: I-751 arrived and signed for

03-23-2017: NOA1 received, dated 03-16-2017

04-07-2017: biometrics appointment letter received 
04-18-2017: biometrics appointment 

02-05-2018: I-751 approval received!, dated 02-01-2018

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It wasn't until last year that the ability to vote while an expat was granted and now it has been repealed from my understanding. Unless that changes, none of us will be voting in October.

I applied for and received my voter's registration (can't exactly remember but late 2014/early 2015) but unless something changes, I guess it will be a moment only.


Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

******************

Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

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Also please note: I am not asking if you believe I should or shouldn't have the right to vote, only if you have any further information on the situation.

Thanks.


 

~12-25-2006: met online (a blog site)
05-01-2013: FINALLY MET IN PERSON! in Canada
05-04-2013: finally became a couple
06-14-2014: got engaged
08-08-2014: got married in Canada
09-18-2014: sent I-130 via UPS, 142 pages in total
09-19-2014: I-130 arrived and signed for
09-24-2014: NOA1 text & hard copy received same day, Vermont Service Center
11-20-2014: NOA2 (I-130 approval!) hard copy received, 57 days from NOA1


12-08-2014: NVC received case
01-14-2015: case number and IIN number received via email
01-14-2015: DS-261 submitted
01-14-2015: AOS fee paid
01-22-2015: IV fee paid
01-24-2015: DS-260 submitted
01-25-2015: AOS and IV documents submitted electronically
02-18-2015: petitioner's proof of US domicile submitted electronically
02-25-2015: email confirmation received (31 days after sending!), scan date of 01-26-2015 <--60 day wait starts
03-24-2015: email confirmation received (34 days after sending!), scan date of 02-18-2015 <--60 day wait starts (a 2nd time)
03-31-2015: case completed at NVC! 2/18 documents got reviewed with the 1/26 ones, 64 days from original scan date

 

04-07-2015: case complete email received
04-22-2015: interview date email received
05-13-2015: medical in Montreal

05-19-2015: picked up medical results
05-20-2015: interview in Montreal --- APPROVED!, 238 days from NOA1

05-25-2015: passport/visa received!

05-30-2015: POE, Calais/St Stephen land crossing, 248 days from NOA1

06-03-2015: paid ELIS fee

06-10-2015: SSN received

07-02-2015: green card received!


03-13-2017: sent I-751 via USPS to Vermont Service Center, 156 pages in total 
03-14-2017: I-751 arrived and signed for

03-23-2017: NOA1 received, dated 03-16-2017

04-07-2017: biometrics appointment letter received 
04-18-2017: biometrics appointment 

02-05-2018: I-751 approval received!, dated 02-01-2018

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That's my opinion as well. However I don't think that the right should be taken away.

I agree. I wasn't stating anything about the "right" to be able to; merely asking why you'd want to.


You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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I'm not sure why we'd vote for a country we don't live in?

For me, it is because I am Canadian. I still pay plenty/most of my taxes in Canada, own property and live there part time. If I felt my move to the U.S. was permanent and/or I didn't pay taxes and had so many ties, my views might be different.

A bit like this: I am Canadian

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So I just received a letter from elections Canada saying I am no longer able to vote..####### didn't I just fill out something last year to make it so I COULD vote?? What the hell..i do intend to go back when Caihla is older and if she wants to move there on her own I want to be able to have imput in my home country.. This is just stupid.


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Yepper - got my letter yesterday as well - no more voting for us unless you plan to return to Canada AND have not been a non resident for more then 5 yrs (bummer - I've been gone almost 8 )

At least if we're US citizens we can always vote for the rest of our lives wherever we live....lots of countries allow it.

Just not Canada...or should we say Mr Harper???????

So I just received a letter from elections Canada saying I am no longer able to vote..####### didn't I just fill out something last year to make it so I COULD vote?? What the hell..i do intend to go back when Caihla is older and if she wants to move there on her own I want to be able to have imput in my home country.. This is just stupid.


Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

******************

Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

******************

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Definitely blame Harper for this one.


I'm trying to be patient, but you know that's not my default position.
2009/09/30 Married
IR-1 begins:
USCIS

2015/07/07 Courier I-130 petition to Chicago

2015/07/08 Petition delivered | NOA1 date
2015/07/10 Received emailed NOA1 (California)
2015/07/20 Received snail mail NOA1

2015/08/25 NOA2 by email/USCIS site (48 days)
2015/09/02 Received snail mail NOA2


NVC

2015/09/15 Received by NVC (21 days)
2015/09/27 Case number assigned (12 days)
2015/09/28 Got case number and IIN over the phone
2015/09/28 Submitted DS-261
2015/09/29 Paid AOS fee (IN PROCESS)
2015/10/01 AOS fee PAID
2015/10/13 Received NVC Welcome Letter hard copy
2015/10/15 Reviewed DS-261 (17 days)
2015/10/16 Received IV Invoice
2015/10/16 Paid IV fee (IN PROCESS)

2015/10/17 Submitted AOS package & IV package

2015/10/19 IV fee PAID

2015/10/19 Submitted DS-260 (scan date)

2015/10/20 Re-sent files (new scan date)

2015/10/29 CASE COMPLETE!

2015/11/13 Heard about interview date (phone) (15 days)

2015/12/07 Medical

2015/12/18 INTERVIEW!

221(g) request for additional sponsor. Otherwise good to go!

2016/01/07 Additional information and passport sent back to Mtl Consulate.

2016/01/12 Passport & 221g delivered to Consulate

2016/01/14 Status updated on CEAC; no update yet on ais.usvisa-info.com

2016/01/28 Status updated to READY

2016/01/29 Status updated to ISSUED

2016/02/01 Received Canada Post info

2016/02/03 Got it!

2016/02/04 POE YVR

2016/03/18 Received green card

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