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Just for fun, does anyone know if when you clear US customs returning from a trip abroad to the US, when they (Customs Border Protection) scan your US passport, does it say on their computer whether you are a naturalized citizen and not a natural born citizen? Of course, your passport says your country of birth but you could still be born outside the US and be a natural born citizen bc of your parents' US citizenship, like CRBA?

I always found customs to be (sometimes) less than friendly when I was on a GC and I wonder if I will get nicer treatment now as a US citizen and or if a CBP agent will know that I'm "just" naturalized lol...

If you know, pls reply and if no one knows, I will find out when I clear US customs next time and report back.

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I have not found them particularly pleasant to anybody.

They might guess as soon as you say something.


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Based on conversations I've had with them in the past i believe it does but I don't believe it changes anything in terms of friendliness. If they are good at their job, they can see right on the passport page so they wouldn't even need to look at the computer.

It may have been the agent you had that day. The friendliest interaction I've had was when I was a GC holder (I even asked for his name and emailed them about how great he was). When I traveled after being naturalized they kinda just stamped and waived me through.


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I was back in Canada a few weeks ago. When I came back to the US she scanned all our passports.

Then she asked if all of us were born in the US.

I thought it was weird because it has our country of birth right there in the passport. I thought she was trying to trip us up, but for what reason I don't know.

She was actually really nice.. So maybe it's not in their system unless we get sent inside for them to dig more !?!!

After thinking about it she was probably trying to figure out what relatives we were visiting.

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Their system does not say you're naturalized but it's pretty easy for them to figure out. Your country of birth is on your passport and I believe they can see when you got your passport for the first time in their system. Chances are, if you were born outside the US and got your first passport as an adult, you're naturalized. As he OP said, you can stil be a US citizen by birth even if born aborad, but if that is the case, you're likely to get a passport when you're young. I know it's all circumstancial, and I honestly don't think they really care much.

Regarding the question asked to a poster about their place of birth, they sometiems ask these kind of questions as a kind of "test" to make sure they are dealing with the person who is using the passport.

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They usually do not ask questions they do not know the answers to.


“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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They usually do not ask questions they do not know the answers to.

hahahaha good one & and right on the money, too!


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Oct 23, 2014: NOA 1

Yellow letter date: October 27, 2014

Biometrics: November 7, 2014

In line for interview: November 10, 2014

Interview scheduled! (email notification): March 23, 2014

Interview letter received: March 25th

Interview: April 24th

In line for Oath: April 27th

Oath: June 23rd

Proud to be an American!

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*** Thread moved from US Citizenship forum to the General Immigration Discussion forum -- general-interest topic. ***

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Whereas some CBP agents can be professional and reasonably pleasant, my overriding experience is that they're typically in a foul mood and are looking to nail somebody. In fairness, however, they "see a lot of weird stuff" (told to me by two different agents, years apart).


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I know of naturalized US citizens who traveled abroad and were given a hard time by immigration officials in those countries who didn't like the fact that they were naturalized citizens. From what I've heard, this tends to happen particularly in Panama, Germany and Gulf countries (Qatar/UAE/Bahrain). Panama especially singles out US/Canadian citizens born in China/India for harassment.

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Just for fun, does anyone know if when you clear US customs returning from a trip abroad to the US, when they (Customs Border Protection) scan your US passport, does it say on their computer whether you are a naturalized citizen and not a natural born citizen? Of course, your passport says your country of birth but you could still be born outside the US and be a natural born citizen bc of your parents' US citizenship, like CRBA?

I always found customs to be (sometimes) less than friendly when I was on a GC and I wonder if I will get nicer treatment now as a US citizen and or if a CBP agent will know that I'm "just" naturalized lol...

If you know, pls reply and if no one knows, I will find out when I clear US customs next time and report back.

I am sure once they scan your passport all the info in the passport will be displayed on the computer screen. They Usually are very friendlier to US citizen whether natural or naturalized except if you are coming from one of the middle eastern countries otherwise they usually just wave you through and tell you welcome back. This has been my firsthand experience and others can charm in to agree or disagree with me.

I am sure once they scan your passport all the info in the passport will be displayed on the computer screen. They Usually are very friendlier to US citizen whether natural or naturalized except if you are coming from one of the middle eastern countries otherwise they usually just wave you through and tell you welcome back. This has been my firsthand experience and others can charm in to agree or disagree with me.


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I assume it shows that, if they lack the intelligence to discern it from the place of birth.

To be honest I've always found US border patrol perfectly professional. I would say they are a little less friendly than Canadian border patrol--they are not "warm"--but I've never found them to be unpleasant or nasty. You're not the only one being filmed, remember, they are, too. If you make a complaint their behavior will be reviewed on video and I'm sure they are keenly aware of that fact.

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Update: instead of yelling "WHY ARE YOU COMING TO THE US??", this time, with a US passport, CBP yelled "WHY DID YOU GO TO CANADA???"

lol...but mainly just waved through :)

Thanks to all who replied and entertained my topic!


N400

Oct 23, 2014: NOA 1

Yellow letter date: October 27, 2014

Biometrics: November 7, 2014

In line for interview: November 10, 2014

Interview scheduled! (email notification): March 23, 2014

Interview letter received: March 25th

Interview: April 24th

In line for Oath: April 27th

Oath: June 23rd

Proud to be an American!

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Thanks for the update. I get "WHAT ARE YOU BRINGING BACK?"


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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