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Let me give a summation of my situation.



I'm American. My wife is Brazilian. We met in Brazil almost a decade ago and we've been married for almost 7 years (living in Brazil). We got married in Brazil. We also have a 1-year-old son who has dual citizenship. We've been spending more time in the U.S over the last 2-3 years and this year I think we're going to move to the U.S. (currently here visiting now).



In the I-130 document, it mentions "evidence of a bona fide Marriage". One of the options is a birth certificate of a child together. I plan on just using our son's birth certificate. Is that really enough? Should we consider adding anything else or is it just enough to supply the one thing?



I thought about making copies of our old passports where we have identical visa entry stamps on all the international trips we took over the years.



09/08/15 - Mailed I-130, I-131, I-765, I-485, I-864, and G-1145 to USCIS

09/10/15 - Documents delivered by USPS to USCIS

09/16/15 - Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to USCIS National Benefits Center

09/17/15 - Checks cashed

09/21/15 - Received hard copies of NOAs

09/25/15 - Biometrics letter received

09/28/15 - Walked in early and completed Biometrics

09/30/15- Request for Evidence on Application Type: I485 (email)

10/05/15- Received hard copy of RFE.

10/06/15- Mailed RFE response to USCIS

10/08/15- RFE response delivered to USCIS

10/14/15- Received 2nd biometrics letter. Scheduled for 10/22

10/22/15- Walked in a few hours early and completed second Biometrics.

11/12/15- Received approval for Application Type: I131, Application for USCIS travel document

11/13/15- Advanced Parole Card produced.

12/07/15- Received approval of EAD application.

12/09/15- EAD card mailed out.

01/06/16- Interview scheduled for March 10th

03/10/16- I-130 and I-485 approved. Green card in Production

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Marriage certificate, photos of wedding, photos of party after wedding, photos of honeymoon

photos with family, shared accounts like banking, rent, utilities, cards and letters for either/and both of you with same address, son's birth certificate with both your signatures

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It's better to give them more than asked for instead of getting an RFE.


Met 2008. Moved in together 2010. Married 2015. Baby Z joined us 2017 . :wub:

AOS Timeline 350 days

 

May 31/15 - Sent AOS/EAD/AP to USCIS

June 4/15 - Email and text notifications they were recieved

June 10/15 - NOA1 for AOS/EAD/AP Dated June 1

June 17/15- Change of address confirmation

June 22/15- Biometrics appointment received

July 1/15- Biometrics appointment done(5 minute appointment, 8 hour round trip drive <_< )

August 5/15 - Change of address submitted for new location

August 8/15 - Mobile/E-mail notifications for approved EAD/AP :)

August 17/15 - Change of address confirmation after calling in

August 17/15 - EAD/AP Combo card mailed out(To the wrong address, and then lost by USPS)

September 3/15 - Contacted USCIS and was told to re-apply with a new application and fees?! Put in a service request online for lost card, and a complaint

September 8/15 - USPS found & returned card to USCIS

September 15/15 - Ombudsman contacted USCIS

September 17/15 - Card mailed back out

September 19/15 - EAD/AP Combo card finally in hand

September 22/15 - NPIW letter received, dated September 9/2015 estimated 6 month wait

October 13-21/15 - Traveled using AP to visit parents & ship the rest of our belongings out west

November 27-30/15 - Traveled using AP

December 28/15- RFE hard copy, waiting on documents from Canada

January 31-February 7/16 - Traveled using AP

February 10/16 - Sent in RFE, delivered Feb 16

April 16/16 - Service request filed, RFE was never updated online

May 12 - Approved email and status update dated May 10. Service request never was assigned or solved, though.

May 14 - Greencard in hand!

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The marriage certificate needs to be there so that is already there. However, they don't ask for all those other things. Is that standard to include all of that.?Most people have been saying don't include more than what's asked for. Or is that something more for people who haven't been married for a long period of time. We've been married for nearly 7 years.

Marriage certificate, photos of wedding, photos of party after wedding, photos of honeymoon

photos with family, shared accounts like banking, rent, utilities, cards and letters for either/and both of you with same address, son's birth certificate with both your signatures


Really? Ok. I've been seeing in other threads to not provide more than what's asked. I'm glad I've asked here again.

I think I'll include copies of our visa stamps and pics from some of our travels.

It's better to give them more than asked for instead of getting an RFE.


09/08/15 - Mailed I-130, I-131, I-765, I-485, I-864, and G-1145 to USCIS

09/10/15 - Documents delivered by USPS to USCIS

09/16/15 - Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to USCIS National Benefits Center

09/17/15 - Checks cashed

09/21/15 - Received hard copies of NOAs

09/25/15 - Biometrics letter received

09/28/15 - Walked in early and completed Biometrics

09/30/15- Request for Evidence on Application Type: I485 (email)

10/05/15- Received hard copy of RFE.

10/06/15- Mailed RFE response to USCIS

10/08/15- RFE response delivered to USCIS

10/14/15- Received 2nd biometrics letter. Scheduled for 10/22

10/22/15- Walked in a few hours early and completed second Biometrics.

11/12/15- Received approval for Application Type: I131, Application for USCIS travel document

11/13/15- Advanced Parole Card produced.

12/07/15- Received approval of EAD application.

12/09/15- EAD card mailed out.

01/06/16- Interview scheduled for March 10th

03/10/16- I-130 and I-485 approved. Green card in Production

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Really? Ok. I've been seeing in other threads to not provide more than what's asked. I'm glad I've asked here again.

I think I'll include copies of our visa stamps and pics from some of our travels.

I mean, within reason. Don't send them hundreds of pages lol. We had to prove an ongoing relationship for our K-1(he had been living in Canada with me for 6 years) so we sent in trips, passport stamps, a lease stating both names, copies showing we filed taxes together(common law in Canada) and cars in both names. We didn't get an RFE the entire time. :)


Met 2008. Moved in together 2010. Married 2015. Baby Z joined us 2017 . :wub:

AOS Timeline 350 days

 

May 31/15 - Sent AOS/EAD/AP to USCIS

June 4/15 - Email and text notifications they were recieved

June 10/15 - NOA1 for AOS/EAD/AP Dated June 1

June 17/15- Change of address confirmation

June 22/15- Biometrics appointment received

July 1/15- Biometrics appointment done(5 minute appointment, 8 hour round trip drive <_< )

August 5/15 - Change of address submitted for new location

August 8/15 - Mobile/E-mail notifications for approved EAD/AP :)

August 17/15 - Change of address confirmation after calling in

August 17/15 - EAD/AP Combo card mailed out(To the wrong address, and then lost by USPS)

September 3/15 - Contacted USCIS and was told to re-apply with a new application and fees?! Put in a service request online for lost card, and a complaint

September 8/15 - USPS found & returned card to USCIS

September 15/15 - Ombudsman contacted USCIS

September 17/15 - Card mailed back out

September 19/15 - EAD/AP Combo card finally in hand

September 22/15 - NPIW letter received, dated September 9/2015 estimated 6 month wait

October 13-21/15 - Traveled using AP to visit parents & ship the rest of our belongings out west

November 27-30/15 - Traveled using AP

December 28/15- RFE hard copy, waiting on documents from Canada

January 31-February 7/16 - Traveled using AP

February 10/16 - Sent in RFE, delivered Feb 16

April 16/16 - Service request filed, RFE was never updated online

May 12 - Approved email and status update dated May 10. Service request never was assigned or solved, though.

May 14 - Greencard in hand!

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Are you going to go through the visa process or the Adjustment of Status process?


Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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A child's birth certificate is not much. Anyone can have a child. Raising a child together shows more about the relationship. With a baby show a few photos with relatives, any birth announcement. don't go overboard.

Show the depth and breadth of your relationship. That will pave the way for an easy visa process. Comingling of finances is strong evidence of a bona fide marital relationship. House deeds and/or rental agreements. Your wife being listed on your US tax returns, joint bank and credit accounts, etc. Wills/insurance showing each other as beneficiary.


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LOL! Yeah. I won't send 100s of pages. Thanks for much for the response!

I mean, within reason. Don't send them hundreds of pages lol. We had to prove an ongoing relationship for our K-1(he had been living in Canada with me for 6 years) so we sent in trips, passport stamps, a lease stating both names, copies showing we filed taxes together(common law in Canada) and cars in both names. We didn't get an RFE the entire time. :)


Adjustment of Status. We're already here in the U.S. So I'm going to file for the AOS next week.

Are you going to go through the visa process or the Adjustment of Status process?


Thanks. On the document it said one of 5 things was sufficient and it had the child's birth certificate as an option. Someone in another thread said it would be easier for us since we've been married for nearly 7 years. However, it's great to get this feedback. I'll add more things. I was just worried because I was reading in another thread where someone said don't send more than asked.

A child's birth certificate is not much. Anyone can have a child. Raising a child together shows more about the relationship. With a baby show a few photos with relatives, any birth announcement. don't go overboard.

Show the depth and breadth of your relationship. That will pave the way for an easy visa process. Comingling of finances is strong evidence of a bona fide marital relationship. House deeds and/or rental agreements. Your wife being listed on your US tax returns, joint bank and credit accounts, etc. Wills/insurance showing each other as beneficiary.


09/08/15 - Mailed I-130, I-131, I-765, I-485, I-864, and G-1145 to USCIS

09/10/15 - Documents delivered by USPS to USCIS

09/16/15 - Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to USCIS National Benefits Center

09/17/15 - Checks cashed

09/21/15 - Received hard copies of NOAs

09/25/15 - Biometrics letter received

09/28/15 - Walked in early and completed Biometrics

09/30/15- Request for Evidence on Application Type: I485 (email)

10/05/15- Received hard copy of RFE.

10/06/15- Mailed RFE response to USCIS

10/08/15- RFE response delivered to USCIS

10/14/15- Received 2nd biometrics letter. Scheduled for 10/22

10/22/15- Walked in a few hours early and completed second Biometrics.

11/12/15- Received approval for Application Type: I131, Application for USCIS travel document

11/13/15- Advanced Parole Card produced.

12/07/15- Received approval of EAD application.

12/09/15- EAD card mailed out.

01/06/16- Interview scheduled for March 10th

03/10/16- I-130 and I-485 approved. Green card in Production

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I would include a brief summary of your relationship...not more than one page typed. Then include 16-20 pics spread out over the time of your relationship...I used power point to make four slides with multiple photos and captioned each photo. Then ran off two slide per page. Financial information is great evidence. Common passport stamps are also great...be sure to include a narrative with your evidence, so they know what they are looking at.

In the end, include the evidence that you think proves your relationship is real.

Good luck!

Edited by Moustafa/Crystal

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You need to prove to USCIS that you're in a bona fida marriage, even though you've been married for so many years and have a child together. Together with the child's birth certificate, I would also send:

Mortgage/rental agreement with your names on or bills to your address that shows that you both live there

Pictures

Passport stamps from your trips to the US and maybe other places

Any will or insurance that shows the other person as beneficiary

I mean don't over do it, but make sure you have at least like 10 pictures and two or three documents that show you're in a bona fida marriage, along with your child's birth certificate. And make sure the pictures are taken over time, so it's not like 10 pictures all from last year. :)

Good luck on your visa journey.


Met online October 2010


Engaged December 31st 2011


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USCIS Stage


September 8th 2014 - Filed I-130 with Nebraska Service Center


September 16th 2014 - NOA1 received


March 2nd 2015 - NOA2 received :dancing:



NVC Stage


March 28th 2015 - Choice of agent complete & AOS fee paid


April 17th 2015 - IV fee paid


May 1st 2015 - Sent in IV application


May 12th 2015 - Sent in AOS and IV documents


May 18th 2015 - Scan Date


June 18th 2015 - Checklist received


June 22nd 2015 - Checklist response sent to NVC


June 25th 2015 - Put for Supervisor Review


Sept 15th 2015 - Request help from Texas US Senator Cornyn and his team


Sept 23rd 2015 - Our case is moved from supervisor review to NVC's team for dealing with Senator requests


Nov 4th 2015 - CASE COMPLETE!!!! :dancing:



Embassy Stage


Dec 16th 2015 - Medical exam


Dec 21st 2015 - Interview


Dec 21st 2015 - 221(g) issued at interview for updated forms


Jan 13th 2016 - Mailed our reply to the 221(g) to the US Embassy, received and CEAC updated the next morning


Jan 20th 2016 - Embassy require more in-depth info on asset for i-864


Feb 1st 2016 - Sent more in-depth info on assets as requested. Received the next morning


Feb 16th 2016 - Visa has been issued :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:



In the US


April 5th 2016 - POE Newark. No questions asked.


April 14th 2016 - SSN received


May 10th 2016 - First day at my new job :dancing:


May 27th 2016 - Green Card received


June 7th 2016 - Got my Texas driver's license

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GringoMan, my husband and I were living in South Africa and had 2 children when I applied for my visa (he's the US citizen) and we included stuff that I thought pointed to 'an ongoing relationship' as well as a 'bonafide marriage.' We had dated and lived together for 7 years by the time we got married.

The person who helped me with our application at the consulate in Johannesburg told me that some Americans will take a spouse they are no longer with or no longer love with them to the U.S as a trade for being able to coparent with the non citizen spouse and so just a birth certificate or just a marriage certificate doesn't prove anything. He told us to include stuff that spanned the entirety of our relationship and proved that we were still living together and existing as a couple. So, like others have said before me - joint lease agreements, co ownership of assets, mail for each of you received at the same address, joint invitations to events, proof of trips taken together etc..... anything you can think of that would prove to someone who doesn't know you, that you are indeed a couple. Again - within reason.

Good luck!

Edited by Miss M

Consulate: South Africa
Married: 2011-06-25
I-130 Sent: 2011-07-22
I-130 NOA1: 2011-07-25
I-130 Approved: 2011-07-27
Receive I-864 Package: 2011-11-10
Return Completed I-864: 2011-11-14
Packet 3 Received: 2011-11-10
Packet 3 Sent: 2011-11-10
Packet 4 Received: 2011-11-15
Interview Date: 2011-11-30
Interview Result: Approved
Visa Received: 2011-12-06
US Entry: 2012-01-11
Port of Entry: San Francisco

ROC I-751 Filed: 2013-12-19

NOA1: 2013-12-23

Biometrics: 2014-01-16

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