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Hi All.

I am in the process of getting my k1 packet together and I have read so much about how to answer the circumstances under which you met. Some say keep it short and sweet 2-3 line and some say write out a paragraph including if you met online

I was wondering my fiancé and I met on a social networking app called Skout and met in person after 6 months of constant skyping and chatting. I was just wondering how to word my paragraph?

Any advice or help would be much appreciated! I have read so many different forums on this and am so confused. Thanks!

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Write: "my fiancé and I met on a social networking app called Skout (ENTER DATE HERE) and met in person after 6 months of constant skyping and chatting (ENTER DATE AND WHERE YOU MET HERE)"

I think this question is basically trying to determine if you met through an IMB


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Mar 18 2013: I-129F mailed to CSC Nov 15 2013: I-485 with EAD/AP filed at Chicago Lockbox

Sept 19 2013: Interview - Approved!! Jan 25 2014: EAD/AP Card Received

Oct 6 2013: POE - Chicago O'Hare June 2 2014: Permanent Resident Card Received!

Oct 27 2013: Wedding!

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Just state that met you through the social networking app, and then state the date and place you met in person that is within the 2 years prior to filing. They want to make sure you did not meet through an IMB, and that you met in person within the last 2 years.


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Thank you for you advice I am just so worried I am going to write something wrong!

Just be honest, take your time, and follow the guides. You'll be fine!

Also, I grew up in Indianapolis :)


K1 Visa Process AOS Process

Mar 18 2013: I-129F mailed to CSC Nov 15 2013: I-485 with EAD/AP filed at Chicago Lockbox

Sept 19 2013: Interview - Approved!! Jan 25 2014: EAD/AP Card Received

Oct 6 2013: POE - Chicago O'Hare June 2 2014: Permanent Resident Card Received!

Oct 27 2013: Wedding!

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Hi All.

I am in the process of getting my k1 packet together and I have read so much about how to answer the circumstances under which you met. Some say keep it short and sweet 2-3 line and some say write out a paragraph including if you met online

I was wondering my fiancé and I met on a social networking app called Skout and met in person after 6 months of constant skyping and chatting. I was just wondering how to word my paragraph?

Any advice or help would be much appreciated! I have read so many different forums on this and am so confused. Thanks!

You're totally wrong......What they want is the description of how you met in person. The how you met and your relationship is for the interview. Two sentences should be all it itakes. That's all I wrote.

How to word your two sentences?

We met online on social network Skrout. Then on Date to Date we met in City, Country.

That's it. Short and simple.


Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

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Hi All.

I am in the process of getting my k1 packet together and I have read so much about how to answer the circumstances under which you met. Some say keep it short and sweet 2-3 line and some say write out a paragraph including if you met online

I was wondering my fiancé and I met on a social networking app called Skout and met in person after 6 months of constant skyping and chatting. I was just wondering how to word my paragraph?

Any advice or help would be much appreciated! I have read so many different forums on this and am so confused. Thanks!

I would keep it concise and clear, but do include some important

timeline and facts.

I think mine was 2-3 sentences...totaling less than 100 words.


10-04-2013 We met online
11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

06-16-2014 NVC creates case with GUZ### number

06-19-2014 NVC sends case sent to Guangzhou, China
06-24-2014 Received packet 3 express mail from embassy
06-25-2014 Completed DS-160 and paid K1 visa fee

06-26-2014 Mailed packet 3 response back to Embassy

06-26-2014 Requested police certificate from Russian embassy

07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

07-17-2014 Picked up Russian police certificate

07-25-2014 Fiancee medical exam (received MMR & Varicella, but they missed required TD shot)

07-31-2014 Picked up medical exam reports

08-01-2014 Request (correct) birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service (GongZhengChu)

08-06-2014 Picked up birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service

08-14-2014 Passed Interview Guangzhou embassy

09-01-2014 Received passport, visa, & sealed envelope

09-13-2014 POE

09-17-2014 Went to CBP office to get (US entry) I-94 updated correctly

09-18-2014 Applied for Social Security Card
09-19-2014 Applied for Marriage License (via online)
09-25-2014 Received Social Security Card
09-30-2014 Picked up Marriage License
10-09-2014 Marriage by Justice of Peace
10-09-2014 Got Certified Marriage Certificate Copies
10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
02-17-2015 EAD and AP is approved
02-23-2015 Received AP is approval letter
02-25-2015 Received EAD/AP combo card (expires 02/16/2016)
02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
04-05-2015 Vision test for learner's permit
04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
04-10-2015 Passed Driver Learner's Permit
04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
08-27-2015 Green Card approved
08-31-2015 Received Green Card "Welcome Notice Was Mailed" letter
09-05-2015 Received Green card
10-26-2015 Passed Driver's License Road Test (on 3rd attempt)
11-03-2015 Received Driver's License (expires 02/16/2022)
11-06-2015 Applied to remove conditional work remark on SS card
11-23-2015 Received updated Social Security Card.
- - - - - - - - - - Pending Future Processing - - - - - - - - - -
05-27-2017 File 10 Year Green Card
08-27-2017 2 Year Green Card Expires
05-27-2018 File USC

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My fiancé and I met on Skout too. I stated that then went on to describe our actual face to face meeting. Just to be safe and avoid an RFE I also attached a Wikipedia page explaining what kind of website Skout is and showing that it's not an IMB.

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My fiancé and I met on Skout too. I stated that then went on to describe our actual face to face meeting. Just to be safe and avoid an RFE I also attached a Wikipedia page explaining what kind of website Skout is and showing that it's not an IMB.

So you just printed out the Wikipedia page about skout and that was ok?! - you dont need anything from their website? Did you put that in your cover letter to show that information was in there? Where did you place it in your packet?

Thank you that is so helpful!

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I just wrote, "We met when I visited Indonesia in _____. I visited again in _____." No mention of any website or anything like that (even though that's how we initially "met"). No problems. You can keep it that simple if you want. I had assumed the question was simply asking when we met in person, and nothing else.


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Aug. 21, '17: NOA1

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Hi All.

I am in the process of getting my k1 packet together and I have read so much about how to answer the circumstances under which you met. Some say keep it short and sweet 2-3 line and some say write out a paragraph including if you met online

I was wondering my fiancé and I met on a social networking app called Skout and met in person after 6 months of constant skyping and chatting. I was just wondering how to word my paragraph?

Any advice or help would be much appreciated! I have read so many different forums on this and am so confused. Thanks!

I received an RFE because I did not provide a lot of detail on the social media website I met my fiancé on. I think it would be wise to let them know that you met on Skout and that it is a social media website and not a marriage broker site (extremely important!)/ I even submitted a Wikipedia description of the site I met my fiancé on and included my profile page and his profile page. Remember there are so many different sites out there and ways to meet people online. the difference is that IMB sites need permission to share your fiancés information with you where as social media sites do not. I personally believe that more is better in this instance. Go from where you met how it escalated and the events that led to you meeting in person to establish the engagement. That way at least you are covered. each person is different at USCIS so you never know what they would want and would not. But one thing for certain is that the question 34 is to determine an IMB service or not. Some people have simply put we met on such and such website and that seemed to suffice. For others including me not so much! give them details that way there is not a shadow of doubt that you have satisfied one of the most common RFE's out there (Circumstances of meeting). it delayed me only a week but still that was a week more taken out of my process. Good luck on your journey and hope you find this information helpful.

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Write: "my fiancé and I met on a social networking app called Skout (ENTER DATE HERE) and met in person after 6 months of constant skyping and chatting (ENTER DATE AND WHERE YOU MET HERE)"

I think this question is basically trying to determine if you met through an IMB

I agree with Chicago's and other's suggestions. Show them how you learned of your fiance's existence, that it's not IMB, and that you physically met within the past two years.

I included screen shots to substantiate our lack of IMB and to show the embassy proof of our relationship too. No RFE and hardly any questions on the validity of our relationship during the interview.


K-1 fiance visa journey

 

July 22, 2014 - First connection through website ** March 4, 2015 - First meeting in person in a third country (first visa stress!) ** March 18, 2015 - Sent Form I-129F ** March 19, 2015 - Received by Dallas Lockbox at 8:09 AM CST ** March 24, 2015 - Received USCIS receipt confirmation text and e-mail at 9:04 PM CST - NOA1 ** April 7, 2015 - Received USCIS approval confirmation text and e-mail at 9:30 PM CST - NOA2 ** April 24, 2015 - Called NVC and confirmed receipt ** April 25, 2015 - CEAC.GOV reflecting embassy number as 'In NVC' ** April 29, 2015 - CEAC.GOV reflecting embassy number as 'In Transit' ** May 5, 2015 - Petition arrived at embassy - 'Ready' status ** June 14, 2015 - Received Packet 3 and 4 (Interview and document list combined) ** June 29, 2015 - Medical exam ** July 7, 2015 - Embassy interview!!...then...CEAC.GOV reflecting embassy number as 'Administrative Processing' ** August 4, 2015 - Received call from US Embassy to drop off his passport!! ** September 3, 2015 - CEAC.GOV reflecting embassy number as 'Ready' and Nonimmigrant!!!!!!! TOMORROW!.....no...still waiting... ** October 13, 2015 - CEAC.GOV reflecting 'Administrative Processing' ** October 15, 2015 - CEAC.GOV now says 'Issued' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

November 10, 2015 - Dallas POE! He's here

November 16, 2015 - Our marriage :)

Adjustment of Status journey ~ ROC Date December 21, 2017 ~

 

December 9, 2015 - Mailed AOS package (Day 0) ** December 10, 2015 - Received by Chicago Lockbox at 1:06 PM CST (Day 1) ** December 14, 2015 - Initiated county name change petition ** December 22, 2015 - Received USCIS receipt confirmation text and e-mail at 11:34 PM CST - NOA (Day 13) ** January 4, 2016 - Additional information delivered to NBC at 10:10 AM CST (Day 26) ** January 11, 2016 - Fingerprint fee accepted for Form I-485 (Day 33) ** January 19, 2016 - Received Selective Service registration card ** January 20, 2016 - Service request initiated and completed for biometric appointment (Day 42) ** January 23, 2016 - Received biometric letter dated January 16, 2016 (Day 45) ** February 5, 2016 - Biometric appointment (Day 58) ** February 19, 2016 - Request for Initial Evidence for EAD/AP (Day 72) ** February 25, 2016 - Received RFIE (Day 78) ** February 26, 2016 - Mailed response to RFIE (Day 79) ** February 29, 2016 - Response to RFE delivered to NBC at 11:06 AM CST (Day 82) ** March 3, 2016 - EAD status update to RFE response received March 1, 2016 (Day 85) ** March 4, 2016 - EAD/AP approved/card being produced (Day 86) ** March 9, 2016 - EAD/AP card mailed (Day 91) ** March 12, 2016 - EAD/AP received (Day 94) ** March 21, 2016 - GC approved/card being produced (Day 103) ** March 24, 2016 - GC mailed and name change completed (should have been February 4, 2016...) (Day 106) ** March 26, 2016 - Conditional GC received (Day 108)

Removal of Conditions journey ~ USC Date December 21, 2018 ~

Spoiler

December 21, 2017 - Mailed ROC package (Day 0) ** December 26, 2017 - Received by Laguna Niguel Lockbox  at 12:40 PM CST (Day 1) ** January 2, 2018 Check cashed (Day 7) ** January 6, 2018 Received NOA1 dated December 26, 2017 (Day 11) ** February 13, 2018 - Service request initiated for biometric appointment (Day 49) ** February 23, 2018 - Received service request letter response dated January 19, 2018 instructing us to wait (Day 59) ** March 5, 2018 - Case Received at Local Office (Day 69) ** June 15, 2018 - Case Transferred to Another Office (Day 171) ** June 18, 2018 - Case Transferred and New Office Has Jurisdiction (Day 174) ** August 24, 2018 - Rec'd extended NOA1 dated August 18, 2018 (Day 241) **

 

 

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I received an RFE because I did not provide a lot of detail on the social media website I met my fiancé on. I think it would be wise to let them know that you met on Skout and that it is a social media website and not a marriage broker site (extremely important!)/ I even submitted a Wikipedia description of the site I met my fiancé on and included my profile page and his profile page. Remember there are so many different sites out there and ways to meet people online. the difference is that IMB sites need permission to share your fiancés information with you where as social media sites do not. I personally believe that more is better in this instance. Go from where you met how it escalated and the events that led to you meeting in person to establish the engagement. That way at least you are covered. each person is different at USCIS so you never know what they would want and would not. But one thing for certain is that the question 34 is to determine an IMB service or not. Some people have simply put we met on such and such website and that seemed to suffice. For others including me not so much! give them details that way there is not a shadow of doubt that you have satisfied one of the most common RFE's out there (Circumstances of meeting). it delayed me only a week but still that was a week more taken out of my process. Good luck on your journey and hope you find this information helpful.

So when you got the rfe you submitted the Wikipedia page? We don't have our profiles anymore

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