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I'm about to send in I-129F forms along with many evidences. I not only have the pictures of two of us, but also with my fiancee's family members, friends etc.. which were taken at my engagement ceremony. Do I still have to send 500+ pages of Facebook chat messages we had? or few pages would be sufficient? I think it's really crazy if I have to send all that chat messages...

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AOS

11/22 Arrival

12/12 Married

1/26 Sent I-485, 131, 765

1/29 email / sms received; i-797 dated 1/29

3/28 With congressman's help, we finally got the biometric letter in email after 8 weeks from the NOA

4/15 Biometric done.

5/23 EAD/AP combo card was sent

6/29 Interview request notice came for I-485

8/1 Interview

K1

7/11 Sent I-129F

7/15 NOA1

7/20 NOA1 hard copy

7/30 NOA2

8/3 NOA2 hard copy

8/24 NVC Case No. assigned

8/26 Case left NVC

8/27 Case READY

10/21 Interview and visa APPROVED :)

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No you do not have to send 500 pages of fb chats a few pages is enough

You do not have to send any chat if you do not want to

No you do not have to send 500 pages of fb chats a few pages is enough

You do not have to send any chat if you do not want to


ROC
Service Center : Nebraska Service Center
Consulate : Manila, Philippines
Marriage (if applicable): 2014-05-20
I-130 Sent : 2014-10-06
I-130 NOA1 : 2014-10-09
I-130 RFE for NSO copy of marriage certificate: 2014-11-03
I-130 RFE Sent : 2014-11-18
I-130 Approved : 2014-12-07
NVC Received : 2014-12-23
NVC case number: 2015-02-04
Received DS-261 / AOS Bill : 2015-02-04
Pay AOS Bill : 2015-02-05
Submit DS-261 : 2015-02-05
Sent AOS Package : 2015-02-09
Sent IV Package : 2015-02-09
Scan date : 2015-02-10
Receive IV Bill : 2015-03-03
Pay IV Bill : 2015-03-06
Submit DS-260: 2015-3-12
Case Completed at NVC : 2015-03-20
Receive Instruction and Interview appointment letter: 2015-3-27
Medical complete: 2015-04-08
Interview Date : 2015-05-08
Interview Result : Approved
Visa Received : 2015-05-13

Date of US Entry : 2015-06-09
 

Date of Social Security card receive : 06-2015

Date of Green Card received 07-2015

Date of ROC FILE 05-19-2017

 I-751 NOA Date 05-26-2017

   

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I sent two pages a month... I had 9 months so I guess 18 pages. That's really it. Just enough to prove that you've had continuous communication. 500 pages is ridiculous... and stupid. It may even take longer to get approved since their is so much they have to go through.


Sent I129f - April 28, 2015

Received I129f - May 1, 2015

NOA1 - May 5, 2015 (Email on 6, Harcopy on 9)

NOA2 - July 9 (Email and text)

NOA2 Hardcopy - July 13

NVC Case # Assigned - July 30

Consulate Received - Aug. 3

Medical - Aug. 12 (We passed! Well, almost. She needs to see a psychiatrist on the 28th, which shouldn't be a big issue. She cut her wrist long ago in her teenage years.)

Interview - ??? (Originally Aug. 26, but since she is now required to see a psychiatrist on the 28th, it will be rescheduled, probably sometime in Sept.)

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The 600+ package ( all 12 pounds of it) was me ;) but we had a K1 denial and re filed.

Some embassies require a lot but for the Philippines you don't need that much.

Pull some chats out from when you met to current, a few per week or so to show a nice flow of the growth of your relationship.

We only used the first page if the chats went beyond one page as long as the dates were showing, that yahoo and skype not FB.


Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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I'm about to send in I-129F forms along with many evidences. I not only have the pictures of two of us, but also with my fiancee's family members, friends etc.. which were taken at my engagement ceremony. Do I still have to send 500+ pages of Facebook chat messages we had? or few pages would be sufficient? I think it's really crazy if I have to send all that chat messages...

500 pages is way too much.

We sent one page per month of Skype and Viber logs, around 16 pages total. We didn't send any FB chat logs.


K-1
NOA1: 04/08/2014; NOA2: 04/21/2014; Visa interview, approved: 07/15/2014; POE: 07/25/2014; Marriage: 09/05/2014

 

AOS

NOA1:  09/12/2014;  Biometrics:  10/06/2014;  EAD/AP Received:  11/26/2014;

Interview Waiver Letter:  01/02/2015;  RFE:  07/09/2015;

Permanent Residency Granted:  07/27/2015;  Green card Received:  08/22/2015

 

ROC

05/23/2017 -- Mailed ROC application

05/24/2017 -- NOA1 date

05/30/2017 -- NOA1 received in the mail

06/05/2017 -- Biometrics letter received

06/13/2017 -- Biometrics appointment

09/05/2018 -- Approved without interview!

09/13/2018 -- 10 Yr Green card Received

 

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I sent two pages a month... I had 9 months so I guess 18 pages. That's really it. Just enough to prove that you've had continuous communication. 500 pages is ridiculous... and stupid. It may even take longer to get approved since their is so much they have to go through.

Not for some countries !!!


Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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I didn't send any fb chats. I had about 12 pictures of us with family. 1 page of our texts msgs in the form of screen shots taken from my phone, 1 page of Viber msgs again in screen shot form from my phone and about 10 pages of Skype, copied and pasted into a word document that covered the beginning until the day I sent off the package. I randomly printed page #s. We were approved at USCIS with no RFE and are currently at NVC waiting for the case to be sent to the embassy.

I believe for us, it's quality over quantity. My fiance will take the fb chats to interview with him and more pictures.

It's really your choice. There is no right or wrong way when it comes to the evidence you send. It's about what YOU feel confident in sending.

Good luck on your journey



04/08/2013 Met online
10/16/2014 Met in person
05/04/2015 Mailed I-129f packet
05/07/2015 NOA 1
06/11/2015 NOA 2
07/14/2015 At Embassy
09/09/2015 Interview (on AP waiting to complete Medical)
09/16/2015 Medical
09/17/2015 Completed Medical and returned sealed envelope to Embassy
09/20/2015 CEAC status updated to READY
10/08/2015 "TOUCHED"
10/13/2015 Updated to Non-Immigrant READY
10/13/2015 Updated to Non-Immigrant AP
10/14/2015 ISSUED!
10/29/2015 VISA IN HAND

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I'm about to send in I-129F forms along with many evidences. I not only have the pictures of two of us, but also with my fiancee's family members, friends etc.. which were taken at my engagement ceremony. Do I still have to send 500+ pages of Facebook chat messages we had? or few pages would be sufficient? I think it's really crazy if I have to send all that chat messages...

Neither of us used FB.

For conversation evidence...

we sent about 20 pages of Skype chat logs, and another 20 pages of emails.


10-04-2013 We met online
11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

06-16-2014 NVC creates case with GUZ### number

06-19-2014 NVC sends case sent to Guangzhou, China
06-24-2014 Received packet 3 express mail from embassy
06-25-2014 Completed DS-160 and paid K1 visa fee

06-26-2014 Mailed packet 3 response back to Embassy

06-26-2014 Requested police certificate from Russian embassy

07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

07-17-2014 Picked up Russian police certificate

07-25-2014 Fiancee medical exam (received MMR & Varicella, but they missed required TD shot)

07-31-2014 Picked up medical exam reports

08-01-2014 Request (correct) birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service (GongZhengChu)

08-06-2014 Picked up birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service

08-14-2014 Passed Interview Guangzhou embassy

09-01-2014 Received passport, visa, & sealed envelope

09-13-2014 POE

09-17-2014 Went to CBP office to get (US entry) I-94 updated correctly

09-18-2014 Applied for Social Security Card
09-19-2014 Applied for Marriage License (via online)
09-25-2014 Received Social Security Card
09-30-2014 Picked up Marriage License
10-09-2014 Marriage by Justice of Peace
10-09-2014 Got Certified Marriage Certificate Copies
10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
02-17-2015 EAD and AP is approved
02-23-2015 Received AP is approval letter
02-25-2015 Received EAD/AP combo card (expires 02/16/2016)
02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
04-05-2015 Vision test for learner's permit
04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
04-10-2015 Passed Driver Learner's Permit
04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
08-27-2015 Green Card approved
08-31-2015 Received Green Card "Welcome Notice Was Mailed" letter
09-05-2015 Received Green card
10-26-2015 Passed Driver's License Road Test (on 3rd attempt)
11-03-2015 Received Driver's License (expires 02/16/2022)
11-06-2015 Applied to remove conditional work remark on SS card
11-23-2015 Received updated Social Security Card.
- - - - - - - - - - Pending Future Processing - - - - - - - - - -
05-27-2017 File 10 Year Green Card
08-27-2017 2 Year Green Card Expires
05-27-2018 File USC

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Some embassies require a lot but for the Philippines you don't need that much.

This is the key take-away point from this thread.

Other general reminders:

1. For eventual visa interviews in poor and non-Visa Waiver Program countries, "front-loading" the I-129F petition package with evidence of your bona fide relationship can be prudent. USCIS will not care about this extra information but will forward it to the consulate, where the consul will review it before the visa interview.

2. Consulates can (and do) ignore relationship evidence that's brought to the interview. However, they cannot refuse a visa by trying to deny knowledge of evidence that USCIS has seen.

3. Regarding what evidence to include, choose material that YOU want the consul to see. Remember that consuls are "human lie-detectors" who might seize on any real or perceived weakness in your file to refuse the visa.

4. I-129F evidence should absolutely exclude ANY references to each other as "husband" or "wife," even if these are cutesy or expressed between you in fun. If the consul suspects that you're married, he or she can refuse the visa on that basis, and you'll be struggling with the need to "prove a negative."

For expansion on the above and more, those contemplating or embarking on the I-129F process can look here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/410945-k-1-journey-completed/

Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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No need to send any in with the petition. Save it for the interview.

I was also thinking about that... but then I want to make sure it doesn't get rejected due to insufficient evidence while NOA2 was being reviewed. just in case... don't want to take any chance.


AOS

11/22 Arrival

12/12 Married

1/26 Sent I-485, 131, 765

1/29 email / sms received; i-797 dated 1/29

3/28 With congressman's help, we finally got the biometric letter in email after 8 weeks from the NOA

4/15 Biometric done.

5/23 EAD/AP combo card was sent

6/29 Interview request notice came for I-485

8/1 Interview

K1

7/11 Sent I-129F

7/15 NOA1

7/20 NOA1 hard copy

7/30 NOA2

8/3 NOA2 hard copy

8/24 NVC Case No. assigned

8/26 Case left NVC

8/27 Case READY

10/21 Interview and visa APPROVED :)

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This is the key take-away point from this thread.

Other general reminders:

1. For eventual visa interviews in poor and non-Visa Waiver Program countries, "front-loading" the I-129F petition package with evidence of your bona fide relationship can be prudent. USCIS will not care about this extra information but will forward it to the consulate, where the consul will review it before the visa interview.

2. Consulates can (and do) ignore relationship evidence that's brought to the interview. However, they cannot refuse a visa by trying to deny knowledge of evidence that USCIS has seen.

3. Regarding what evidence to include, choose material that YOU want the consul to see. Remember that consuls are "human lie-detectors" who might seize on any real or perceived weakness in your file to refuse the visa.

4. I-129F evidence should absolutely exclude ANY references to each other as "husband" or "wife," even if these are cutesy or expressed between you in fun. If the consul suspects that you're married, he or she can refuse the visa on that basis, and you'll be struggling with the need to "prove a negative."

For expansion on the above and more, those contemplating or embarking on the I-129F process can look here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/410945-k-1-journey-completed/

I want to thank you for the listed bullet points. Especially No. 4. My fiancee calls me hubby or husband, not because I am, just for fun... Not just few times but she does that many times in the whatsapp logs, kakaotalk logs, etc... too much/many to redact and will take some time for me to work on before I can send out what I want the consulate officer to see as you mention in 3. I think I should send boarding pass, hotel bills, Skype logs, and FB logs "only" from our early relationship.


AOS

11/22 Arrival

12/12 Married

1/26 Sent I-485, 131, 765

1/29 email / sms received; i-797 dated 1/29

3/28 With congressman's help, we finally got the biometric letter in email after 8 weeks from the NOA

4/15 Biometric done.

5/23 EAD/AP combo card was sent

6/29 Interview request notice came for I-485

8/1 Interview

K1

7/11 Sent I-129F

7/15 NOA1

7/20 NOA1 hard copy

7/30 NOA2

8/3 NOA2 hard copy

8/24 NVC Case No. assigned

8/26 Case left NVC

8/27 Case READY

10/21 Interview and visa APPROVED :)

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I was also thinking about that... but then I want to make sure it doesn't get rejected due to insufficient evidence while NOA2 was being reviewed. just in case... don't want to take any chance.

Facebook like most documents are easily forged, I wouldn't send any facebook chats. I might bring a few pages to interview.

It sounds like you have plenty of evidence for initial filing.......

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Thanks to everyone's help. I finally sent it out today. Hope it gets processed by the end of the year. ;)


AOS

11/22 Arrival

12/12 Married

1/26 Sent I-485, 131, 765

1/29 email / sms received; i-797 dated 1/29

3/28 With congressman's help, we finally got the biometric letter in email after 8 weeks from the NOA

4/15 Biometric done.

5/23 EAD/AP combo card was sent

6/29 Interview request notice came for I-485

8/1 Interview

K1

7/11 Sent I-129F

7/15 NOA1

7/20 NOA1 hard copy

7/30 NOA2

8/3 NOA2 hard copy

8/24 NVC Case No. assigned

8/26 Case left NVC

8/27 Case READY

10/21 Interview and visa APPROVED :)

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