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The above post was made in the UK forum several years ago, but I'm curious to see more replies.

How/why did you two decide who would move?

For us, it wasn't that difficult. I have a good-paying job, and live near family. He had an ok-paying job and lived in Ireland (originally from South Africa, so not near family) and was looking to relocate sometime down the line anyway when we met. We both have minor children, but he has sole legal custody of his son, and my custody of my daughter is shared, legally. Plus, my daughter is a teenager, so we figured his 10 year old would relocate easier. We have tentative plans to relocate possibly back to Europe once he has his citizenship. But life's plans are up in the air until then.


K1 Visa timeline:

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

02/01/2014 - mailed our petition

07/25/2014 - Johan arrives in Los Angeles! 

*See updated timeline for specific dates.*

AOS timeline:~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

08/02/2014 - AOS, EAD, AP applications mailed. 

11/17/2014 - K2 gets an interview waiver letter in the mail (dated November 12th) (K1 has never gotten this letter)

08/24/2015 - Green cards are FINALLY in hand after nearly 13 months of waiting. 

ROC timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

05/01/2017 - ROC application sent 

05/02/2017 - CSC receives our package

05/03/2017 - Official NOA1 date

05/10/2017 - MO cashed at our bank

05/12/2017 - NOA 1 is in the mailbox.

05/20/2017 - Biometrics letter in hand

05/31/2017 - biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

06/19/2018 - ROC still pending with no news but that wonky glitch back in February, so we went ahead and filed for citizenship

N-400 timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

06/19/2018 - N-400 application filed online

06/20/2018 - NOA1 received online for Naturalization application

06/25/2018 - Biometrics notification online (PDF Document)

07/12/2018 - Biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

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Better (for now) to visit a third-world near-dictatorship than to live there.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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You're not joking. That's pretty much the reason we will NEVER live in South Africa!


K1 Visa timeline:

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

02/01/2014 - mailed our petition

07/25/2014 - Johan arrives in Los Angeles! 

*See updated timeline for specific dates.*

AOS timeline:~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

08/02/2014 - AOS, EAD, AP applications mailed. 

11/17/2014 - K2 gets an interview waiver letter in the mail (dated November 12th) (K1 has never gotten this letter)

08/24/2015 - Green cards are FINALLY in hand after nearly 13 months of waiting. 

ROC timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

05/01/2017 - ROC application sent 

05/02/2017 - CSC receives our package

05/03/2017 - Official NOA1 date

05/10/2017 - MO cashed at our bank

05/12/2017 - NOA 1 is in the mailbox.

05/20/2017 - Biometrics letter in hand

05/31/2017 - biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

06/19/2018 - ROC still pending with no news but that wonky glitch back in February, so we went ahead and filed for citizenship

N-400 timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

06/19/2018 - N-400 application filed online

06/20/2018 - NOA1 received online for Naturalization application

06/25/2018 - Biometrics notification online (PDF Document)

07/12/2018 - Biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

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For us it was almost a no brainer

He has a stable job and a good salary, but only speaks English.

I live in Québec, so french is almost required. I know the town where I lived was francophone.

On the other hand, I had a basic job, but speak English and French. So it would be easier for me to get used to a new life because I am fluent in English.


August 2011: Started talking to Brian
June 1st, 2012: Started dating (L)
July 29th 2012: Saw each other for the first time, met Family
August 2013: Got engaged
July 2014: Sent 1-129F petition
July 29th, 2014: Received NOA1.
February 5th, 2015: NOA2!
April 16th, 2015: Medical in Montréal
May 15th, 2015; Interview- APPROVED!
June 22nd, 2015: POE at Champlain Border

September 4th, 2015: Wedding! :dancing:

AOS/EAD/AP

February 20th, 2016: AOS/EAD/AP Package sent! (Received 2/25, yay for USPS delays!)

March 4th, 2016: NOA 1 for all 3 applications

March 11th, 2016: Hardcopies with all 3 receipt Numbers received

March 30th, 2016: Biometrics (as a code 2, Maybe have to go again?)

April 25th, 2016: Walk in for the SECOND Biometrics appoinment (Code 3 this time, Officer was not the happiest but told us to come back at noon and he'd let us in.)

May 16th, 2016: Submitted Service Request for I-765

June 8th, 2016: Called USCIS concerning delay, officer put another request in and said the previous one would like be ignored as it was created through their website.

June 21st, 2016: Contacted both NY Senators.

July 1st, 2016: RFIE for I-485.

July 8th, 2016; Sent Evidence Requested by USCIS. (Received July 13th)

July 15th, 2016; Emergency Advance Parole due to Family Emergency

July 27th, 2016; Contacted USCIS Ombudsman as my I-765 has been pending for 5 months.

July 30th,2016; EAD/AP have been approved!

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He first moved to me in Ireland, because it was quicker, and I had the better paying job.

But he always had difficulty with liberal Ireland, and once we had kids, we wanted to be near family (I've no siblings, and my mother lives in Switzerland). So we moved to Arkansas, where he has siblings.


Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Original plans were for him to move to Canada because he was unemployed. However he'd lose any VA benefits beyond them paying for schooling. He landed his job he has now, which is working for the FAA. So I moved down because we'd have greater stability and he had better paying job. (I work in retail, which I can do anywhere.) Had his job not come along when it did, he'd be going to school in Alberta vs us living in CO.


You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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I'm in the military, so there was no choice lol.

You can leave the military. Granted you may have a contract for XX number of years but they can also let you out of said contract and have for many military members. You chose not to do so and your wife supported you. YAY, it was a happy choice!

There is always a choice.


You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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Early on we talked about it and we both agreed it would be best initially to live in New Jersey


Sent I-129 Application to VSC 2/1/12
NOA1 2/8/12
RFE 8/2/12
RFE reply 8/3/12
NOA2 8/16/12
NVC received 8/27/12
NVC left 8/29/12
Manila Embassy received 9/5/12
Visa appointment & approval 9/7/12
Arrived in US 10/5/2012
Married 11/24/2012
AOS application sent 12/19/12

AOS approved 8/24/13

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For us it was because I have 2 children and a home and car and lots of family in the same city that I'm extremely close to. He just has an appartment and his mom and sister. So it made sense, especially since the 3 of us only know english, but he already knows multiple languages and so it isn't hard to transition.

Though I definitely have considered moving over there a few times, it doesn't make much sense for a lot of reasons. Including the fact their immigration is just as difficult as our, if not even a little more so, especially since we'd immigrate 2 children as well.


I am the petitioner, he still lives overseas

found each other August 2009
started courting December 2010
first held hands February 2011
engaged June 2013
married May 2014
began process January 2015

Most recent update: Interviewed on 05-OCT 2015. Approved and visa in hand!!!

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I moved to Denmark originally after much going back and forth, my husband had enough with my indecision and went for Denmark. Honestly had we waited a couple of years for me to be there as a spouse versus on my EU rights, the two choices would have been equivalent. As it was, my daughter didn't take kindly to Denmark, especially the immigrant children she went to school with, and was kind of in the middle of a mental breakdown... which is scary for a 4 year old. I just couldn't get used to the roughness of the people and the gloomy weather especially without a car. So, we moved to America and we all like it here.


3/2/18  E-filed N-400 under 5 year rule

3/26/18 Biometrics

7/2019-12/2019 (Yes, 16- 21 months) Estimated time to interview MSP office.

 

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I already spoke English so it made more sense for me to be the one to move. My husband would have had to learn a completely different language, plus the immigration laws are sort of strict and I wasn't even old enough to be allowed to bring someone into the country at the time.


May 25, 2004: Got married at the city hall in Denmark
June 8, 2004: Received passport with new last name
June 11, 2004: Went to the U.S. embassy in Denmark to file the I-130 and DS-230 - approved on the spot
June 18, 2004: Received letter of appointment plus packet 4
August 5, 2004: Interview at U.S. embassy - APPROVED!!!
August 19, 2004: Went back to the U.S. with my husband
May 27, 2006: Filed I-751
July 25, 2006: I-751 approved!

March 13, 2016: Filed I-90 for Permanent Resident Card renewal

March 22, 2016: Received letter of appointment for biometrics appointment

April 8, 2016: Biometrics appointment

September 21, 2016: I-90 approved

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I moved to Denmark originally after much going back and forth, my husband had enough with my indecision and went for Denmark. Honestly had we waited a couple of years for me to be there as a spouse versus on my EU rights, the two choices would have been equivalent. As it was, my daughter didn't take kindly to Denmark, especially the immigrant children she went to school with, and was kind of in the middle of a mental breakdown... which is scary for a 4 year old. I just couldn't get used to the roughness of the people and the gloomy weather especially without a car. So, we moved to America and we all like it here.

I grew up in Denmark so I have to admit that I absolutely love the dark, gloomy weather. My husband is always looking forward to going to Denmark for the exact same reason. :D


May 25, 2004: Got married at the city hall in Denmark
June 8, 2004: Received passport with new last name
June 11, 2004: Went to the U.S. embassy in Denmark to file the I-130 and DS-230 - approved on the spot
June 18, 2004: Received letter of appointment plus packet 4
August 5, 2004: Interview at U.S. embassy - APPROVED!!!
August 19, 2004: Went back to the U.S. with my husband
May 27, 2006: Filed I-751
July 25, 2006: I-751 approved!

March 13, 2016: Filed I-90 for Permanent Resident Card renewal

March 22, 2016: Received letter of appointment for biometrics appointment

April 8, 2016: Biometrics appointment

September 21, 2016: I-90 approved

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For us, it was an easy answer. My ex-husband was never going to let my three daughters move to Egypt. While neither of us really wanted to live in the Untied States due to the discrimination but there wasn't much of a choice, the girls come first.


Engaged: 10/16/2013

I traveled to Cairo to meet him: 11/26/2013

Met in person: 11/28/2013

Religious Marriage: 11/28/2013

Miscarriage: 06/23/2014

Positive Pregnancy Test 2: 7/28/2014

Returned to USA: 09/29/2014

Yusuf born: 11/08/2014 RIP :cry:

Returned to Egypt: 03/06/2015

Filed I-129F: 07/27/2015

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We first lived in Germany, but my wife never really picked up on German (it's hard to learn!). I'm fluent in German and English and having lived in the USA before, I knew I liked it and could easily adapt to the lifestyle there. Plus my wife is really close to her parents, who are already in their 70's and need help every once in while. My family lives in Belgium, so I don't see them very often to begin with and I'm not very close to the family I have in Germany. I've worked in the restaurant business for 15 years, so it's easy for me to find a job once I receive my EAD. So it was really a no brainer for me to relocate to the United States to have a happier life with my wife :)

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