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I-751 - help!

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Hi Everyone!

It's finally time for me, once again :(

I dread this with every fiber of my being.

Okay - so yesterday I got the dreaded ROC letter in the mail, telling us that it's time my husband files his I-751 notice. I've been stressing over this since he entered 2 years ago.

We have gathered up as much evidence as we can.

Here's a list of what we'll have by the end of next week:

*Joint Bank Account (statements over the past two years)

*Tax Returns (Married filing jointly)

*Health Insurance (joint)

*Car insurance (he's listed as a non-designated driver, since he can't drive- he's a severe dyslexic)

*Work proof (he has pay stubs from his job at Walmart that he's held for over a year)

*Cards and letters addressed to the both of us (including a few bills)

*Affidavits from family and friends

(1) my mother and father stating that we've been living with them for 2 years and paying rent, hence why we don't have any mortgage/rent/utility bills.

(2) an elderly couple we know, who helped teach my husband the faith he converted to. They know us VERY well as a couple, and attended our wedding (the second one, the blessing, not the civil obviously)

(3) a friend from his work who hangs out with the both of us on a regular basis, knows us as a couple.

*Marriage certificate (from our second wedding in Dec of 14, it was a blessing through our church)

*Dog adoption papers for our puppy (license and registration)

*Will for the both of us

*Life Insurance for the both of us, listed each other as beneficiaries.

*Pictures

*Vacation papers from a trip to Disneyland hotel, with hotel cards and travel papers with our names on them

I'm sure I'm forgetting a few other things I have tucked away, but that's the bulk of it.

The letter says to file the I-751 within 90 days prior to his entrance. It also states that if we send sufficient evidence, he might not even need the interview, and he will be immediately approved. I'm hoping this is the case, since I've been manic about collecting things.

I would really appreciate any advice, and possibly some help on how to properly fill out the form. I've heard some horror stories of people not filling them out properly and getting denied just based off that.

Also - is it different than what I had to do in England? Do I send in the evidence all together with the form? Should I categorize and make it really neat and labeled?

What's the process like?

I've read the "intructions" on the .gov site, but it's vague and never goes deep enough for me. I truly believe, that without this site, I wouldn't have made it this far with him. I tried doing it myself and ended up failing miserably. I didn't understand how much work and effort goes into it.

Thank you guys! :)

Catie and Tom


July 19, 2013 - I-130 Filed

July 23, 2013 - Notice of Receipt (NOA1)

July 26,2013 - Request For Evidence (RFE) Notice

July 30,2013 - Evidence Returned

Aug 2,2013 - NOA2 Approved (10 Days)

Aug 28,2013 - Email Received Stating LND # (They Sent Packet 3 on August 27th)

Aug 30,2013 - Packet 3 Received and Sent (DS-230 Part I and II, DS-2001, and Cover Letter)

Sep 4th, 2013 - Medical

Sep 19, 2013 - Packet 4 Received

Sep 27,2013 - Interview - *approved*

Oct 02,2013 - Passport Packet Received (3 working days)

Oct 11th, 2013 - POE Los Angeles

Oct 21st, 2013 - SSN Received
Nov 14th, 2013 - Greencard Received

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:star: ROC Journey :star:

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Sep 2nd, 2015 - I751 filed

Sep 3rd, 2015 - NOA 1 (Received on Sep 8)

Sep 17th, 2015 - ASC Letter (dated Sep 12)

Oct 2nd, 2015 - Biometrics Appointment

March 2016 - Permanent Resident card received (Expires 3/26)

 

 

 

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You are already through the hard part (K-1 and AOS). The ROC process is relatively simple. Just fill in the I-751 form, include a check, and attach copies of your supporting evidence, arranged in whatever format you want. Some people attach a cover letter but it's not needed. That's it. The process is very easy.

ROC interviews are very rare. Usually you either get approved, or they issue an RFE. If you reply to the RFE and they are still not happy, that's when they will set up an interview.

It looks like you have a good set of evidence. You don't need his paystubs. I would personally not include the Dec 14 "marriage certificate" as that might be confusing, and it's not needed.

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Make sure to include tax transcripts (you can order them for free at irs.gov and they are delivered within a week) and not tax returns. I would also omit the marriage certificate. It is not part of the ROC process. Your evidence looks solid otherwise. Good luck! :)


 

 

AOS

03/24/11 - Got married in the Boogie-Down Bronx, NYC!
04/21/11 - Mailed I-130,I-765, I-485, I-864 and I-693 - Day 00

04/23/11 - Application delivered - Day 02
04/28/11 - NOA (most forms) - Day 07
05/03/11 - Checks cashed - Day 12
05/31/11 - Biometrics completed in the Bronx, NYC - Day 40
06/24/11 - Received someone else's employment authorization card!!! What the...? - Day 64
07/01/11 - Mailed the poor lady's card back after calling USCIS - Day 71
07/07/11 - Received poor lady's interview notice! What??? - Day 77
07/15/11 - Received my own EAD card - Day 85
08/12/11 - Interview. Approved on the spot! - Day 113
08/18/11 - Received card in the mail - Day 119

ROC
05/28/13 - Mailed I-751 - Day 00

05/30/13 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/31/13 - NOA I-797 - Day 03
06/04/13 - Check cashed - Day 07

06/06/13 - NOA delivered to my home/Biometrics letter generated - Day 09

06/10/13 - Received Biometrics letter in the mail - Day 13

06/27/13 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 30

09/10/13 - Application approved! - Day 105

09/14/13 - 10 year Green Card received! - Day 109

Citizenship

05/10/16 - Mailed N-400 - Day 00

05/12/16 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/13/16 - Credit card payment accepted - Day 03

05/17/16 - Received text & email update - Day 07

05/20/16 - Received 1st NOA (dated 05/13/16) & created ELIS acct - Day 10

05/21/16 - Received 2nd NOA (dated 05/16/16) confirming my DOB and address - Day 11

05/22/06 - Biometrics scheduled (online update) and appt letter was mailed on 05/20/16 - Day 12

05/24/06 - Biometrics letter became viewable online (appt scheduled for 06/07/16) - Day 14

05/27/16 - Received Biometrics letter in mail - Day 17

05/31/16 - Was denied walk-in fingerprints with just 1 person left in line. Milwaukee office, boo! - Day 21

06/07/16 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 28

12/21/16 - Passed Citizenship test/Interview was successful! - Day 197

01/26/17 - I am a US citizen!!! - Day 233

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England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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So they can be copies? Or should they be original documentation? Obviously, some of them can't be (like health insurance/etc...)

Also - they don't care that it's in a giant package? I just send it all in? I didn't have to do this last time, I brought all our evidence to the interview.

I'm probably going to do a cover letter, and I won't attach my marriage certificate from the second one.

I like to do things that are unnecessary just in case I get a stickler, who wants a lot of evidence.

Nick - you've helped me so much in the past! Would it be pushy of me to ask if I can send the i-751 for your review? To make sure I did everything correctly?

Thank you guys!!!


July 19, 2013 - I-130 Filed

July 23, 2013 - Notice of Receipt (NOA1)

July 26,2013 - Request For Evidence (RFE) Notice

July 30,2013 - Evidence Returned

Aug 2,2013 - NOA2 Approved (10 Days)

Aug 28,2013 - Email Received Stating LND # (They Sent Packet 3 on August 27th)

Aug 30,2013 - Packet 3 Received and Sent (DS-230 Part I and II, DS-2001, and Cover Letter)

Sep 4th, 2013 - Medical

Sep 19, 2013 - Packet 4 Received

Sep 27,2013 - Interview - *approved*

Oct 02,2013 - Passport Packet Received (3 working days)

Oct 11th, 2013 - POE Los Angeles

Oct 21st, 2013 - SSN Received
Nov 14th, 2013 - Greencard Received

____

:star: ROC Journey :star:

____

Sep 2nd, 2015 - I751 filed

Sep 3rd, 2015 - NOA 1 (Received on Sep 8)

Sep 17th, 2015 - ASC Letter (dated Sep 12)

Oct 2nd, 2015 - Biometrics Appointment

March 2016 - Permanent Resident card received (Expires 3/26)

 

 

 

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Everything you send in can be photocopies.

My ROC was the biggest packet of all the ones we did...K1 petition, AOS, ROC, citizenship.

I didn't send in every bank statement for two years. I did the oldest, some middle-ish, and most recent to show we maintained the same account a long time.

Does he have a state ID in lieu of a driver license? Photocopy your DL and his ID on same page to show you have the same address.

Remember, you are not proving income, so his pay slips don't do a lot but show his address. Maybe copy one of his and one of yours on the same page and make a note at the bottom--Same Address. The tax returns are not to prove income. They are showing you filed together as a married couple.


England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Thank you!


July 19, 2013 - I-130 Filed

July 23, 2013 - Notice of Receipt (NOA1)

July 26,2013 - Request For Evidence (RFE) Notice

July 30,2013 - Evidence Returned

Aug 2,2013 - NOA2 Approved (10 Days)

Aug 28,2013 - Email Received Stating LND # (They Sent Packet 3 on August 27th)

Aug 30,2013 - Packet 3 Received and Sent (DS-230 Part I and II, DS-2001, and Cover Letter)

Sep 4th, 2013 - Medical

Sep 19, 2013 - Packet 4 Received

Sep 27,2013 - Interview - *approved*

Oct 02,2013 - Passport Packet Received (3 working days)

Oct 11th, 2013 - POE Los Angeles

Oct 21st, 2013 - SSN Received
Nov 14th, 2013 - Greencard Received

____

:star: ROC Journey :star:

____

Sep 2nd, 2015 - I751 filed

Sep 3rd, 2015 - NOA 1 (Received on Sep 8)

Sep 17th, 2015 - ASC Letter (dated Sep 12)

Oct 2nd, 2015 - Biometrics Appointment

March 2016 - Permanent Resident card received (Expires 3/26)

 

 

 

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The letter says to file the I-751 within 90 days prior to his entrance. It also states that if we send sufficient evidence, he might not even need the interview, and he will be immediately approved. I'm hoping this is the case, since I've been manic about collecting things.

You do mean 90 days before his 2 year green card expires correct?

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You do mean 90 days before his 2 year green card expires correct?

"During the 90 days before..." as described on page 1 of the I-751 instructions, check out When Should I File Form I-751?: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-751instr.pdf

Edited by Pitaya

Completed: K1/K2 (271 days) - AOS/EAD/AP (134 days) - ROC (279 days)

> Almost 2 years of our lives involved with the USCIS/DOS "shuffle" & worth every second of it ! <

"Si vis amari, ama" - Seneca

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:idea: Read more, post less.... Google can be your friend ! :idea:

Prior apologies if I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Keep your timeline current: http://www.visajourney.com/timeline/

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In our initial ROC submission we included our 2 years of MFJ IRS tax transcripts and a sampling of the bank statements (similar to what Nich-Nick described), etc. In the RFE, they wanted us to furnish all of the financial statements since the inception of marriage. Additionally, they asked for all W-2s, 1099-MISCs corresponding to the years of the marriage. Maybe we got a very finicky adjudicator?

Agree with Nich-Nick about the size of the package. Our initial submission weighed in at just under six pounds. The RFE response, that we sent in on 14 May 2015, weighed in at 3 pounds, 11 ounces. It was by far, the biggest package we have sent in to USCIS. Send 'em the kitchen sink, and let them two hole punch that into your file... :lol:

BTW, our ROC was approved on 21 May 2015.

Good luck.

Edited by Pitaya

Completed: K1/K2 (271 days) - AOS/EAD/AP (134 days) - ROC (279 days)

> Almost 2 years of our lives involved with the USCIS/DOS "shuffle" & worth every second of it ! <

"Si vis amari, ama" - Seneca

_______________________

:idea: Read more, post less.... Google can be your friend ! :idea:

Prior apologies if I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Keep your timeline current: http://www.visajourney.com/timeline/

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