F1 visa expired for 7 years! how to get green card and not leave the US???

[zuluweta 250]

If you read between the lines, it's doubtful that the OP's friend has maintained his/her F1 status for 7 years and that is why the OP's friend is worried about deportation and a ban. If an F1 student fails to maintain his/her status, then concern about deportation and a ban are relevant.

This.

[zuluweta 250]

Just because the OP mentioned it doesn't mean it's relevant.

Then why is the mention of a student visa and being 7 years in the U.S. relevant information for you? According to your 'logic', that detail in the story doesn't mean it's relevant and yet you chose to go with that bit of info in your defense of OP's friend.

In other words, you get to choose and pick which detail in a story is relevant or not. Right. Got it.

[newacct 688]

Then why is the mention of a student visa and being 7 years in the U.S. relevant information for you? According to your 'logic', that detail in the story doesn't mean it's relevant and yet you chose to go with that bit of info in your defense of OP's friend.

In other words, you get to choose and pick which detail in a story is relevant or not. Right. Got it.

I did not choose and pick anything. I accepted every statement that is said in the question as true, and made a true statement based on that. The OP never said the friend is facing deportation or ban, or could potentially face deportation or ban. The only declarative statements the OP made in the question were that the friend's visa expired 7 years ago, and never applied for permanent residency. Therefore, one should assume that that is true. No statements were made about whether the friend is in status or not.

[zuluweta 250]

I did not choose and pick anything. I accepted every statement that is said in the question as true, and made a true statement based on that. The OP never said the friend is facing deportation or ban, or could potentially face deportation or ban. The only declarative statements the OP made in the question were that the friend's visa expired 7 years ago, and never applied for permanent residency. Therefore, one should assume that that is true. No statements were made about whether the friend is in status or not.

Then please explain why the notion of deportation and a ban were mentioned in the question posed by OP if it's not relevant information.

[newacct 688]

Then please explain why the notion of deportation and a ban were mentioned in the question posed by OP if it's not relevant information.

Is it unusual for someone who has a question about immigration to ask about these things? It may not be relevant to me or you but the OP might not know that.

[zuluweta 250]

Is it unusual for someone who has a question about immigration to ask about these things? It may not be relevant to me or you but the OP might not know that.

Actually, several people here have replied and considered OP's mention of a deportation and a ban relevant enough. So it is relevant info to me. Others think so too. Do you have any inside info that leads you to think it's not relevant information even though OP mentioned it as part of the question? Edited July 17, 2015 by zuluweta

[newacct 688]

Actually, several people here have replied and considered OP's mention of a deportation and a ban relevant enough. So it is relevant info to me. Others think so too. Do you have any inside info that leads you to think it's not relevant information even though OP mentioned it as part of the question?

Look, the OP asked, can this person apply for X without facing deportation or ban. And some people said things like what happens assuming this person is out of status. That is fine for them to consider that possibility. But I am willing to consider the other possibilities. Maybe the OP thinks that someone with an expired visa will face deportation; I have no idea what the OP thinks. People sometimes ask weird things like they are US citizens residing abroad, how long can they stay in the US; why they think there is a limitation I don't know, but they ask and someone answers. Here the OP asks whether this friend can do X without facing deportation. Why he thinks this friend will face deportation, I don't know. Maybe there is information he is not telling us like the friend is out of status. Maybe not. Maybe he wrote the question wrong and what he meant was the friend was out of status for 7 years. Whatever the reason is, I don't want to make unwarranted guesses on what the OP knows or means other than what he has actually stated about the situation.

Edited July 18, 2015 by newacct

[aaron2020 11,651]

Look, the OP asked, can this person apply for X without facing deportation or ban. And some people said things like what happens assuming this person is out of status. That is fine for them to consider that possibility. But I am willing to consider the other possibilities. Maybe the OP thinks that someone with an expired visa will face deportation; I have no idea what the OP thinks. People sometimes ask weird things like they are US citizens residing abroad, how long can they stay in the US; why they think there is a limitation I don't know, but they ask and someone answers. Here the OP asks whether this friend can do X without facing deportation. Why he thinks this friend will face deportation, I don't know. Maybe there is information he is not telling us like the friend is out of status. Maybe not. Maybe he wrote the question wrong and what he meant was the friend was out of status for 7 years. Whatever the reason is, I don't want to make unwarranted guesses on what the OP knows or means.

You admit that you "have no idea what the OP thinks" and you "don't want to make unwarranted guesses" and you "are willing to consider the other possibilities" but you are certain that deportation and a ban are irrelevant because there is enough information for you to rule out the possibility that the OP's friend is out of status. Got it.

[JohnR! 5,495]

A lot of irrelevant postings in this thread so far...

The only way for you to get your permanent residence is marriage to a US citizen as already pointed out. To be sure, a real marriage and not just a gc scam. Even with a work visa, permanent residence is not a guarantee.

Good luck!

I have a friend who entered US through F1 visa but had it expired now for 7 years and never applied for permanent residency, he/she currently working and been paying his taxes regularly. What will be his/her options to adjust his status without facing deportation and ban?

Edited July 18, 2015 by JohnR!

[Boiler 43,433]

Nothing to suggest he is here legally.

[newacct 688]

You admit that you "have no idea what the OP thinks" and you "don't want to make unwarranted guesses" and you "are willing to consider the other possibilities" but you are certain that deportation and a ban are irrelevant because there is enough information for you to rule out the possibility that the OP's friend is out of status. Got it.

I never said anything is irrelevant. I also never ruled out the possibility that the OP's friend is out of status. You made that up.

I said just because something is asked about doesn't mean it's relevant. And I said that it's possible for the friend to be in status.

[Boiler 43,433]

It is possible for me to win the lottery.

[aaron2020 11,651]

I never said anything is irrelevant. I also never ruled out the possibility that the OP's friend is out of status. You made that up.

I said just because something is asked about doesn't mean it's relevant. And I said that it's possible for the friend to be in status.

Uhmmmm. You may want to check out your prior post where you stated that "Just because the OP mentioned it doesn't mean it's relevant."

If the OP's friend is out of status, then the fear of deportation and a ban would be relevant, no? And you don't know if the friend is out of status or not. Yet you are confident enough to say "Just because the OP mentioned it doesn't mean it's relevant."

[Darnell 8,478]

hey OP - how was the wedding? any booze-up? any fotos? come on, we are anxiously awaiting more news !

[Unidentified 2,930]

I did not choose and pick anything. I accepted every statement that is said in the question as true, and made a true statement based on that. The OP never said the friend is facing deportation or ban, or could potentially face deportation or ban. The only declarative statements the OP made in the question were that the friend's visa expired 7 years ago, and never applied for permanent residency. Therefore, one should assume that that is true. No statements were made about whether the friend is in status or not.

How can you be in status on an expired visa?