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Come over and catch a wave with me first. Then I'll cut you :goofy:

That sounds like a plan my friend! I'll bring the beer and some cherry Pepsi.

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My wife is a "Resident Alien" and has and Alien number but, she is here legally. If she was not, that would be considered illegal and thus she would be an illegal alien, no?

This is just me, but I refuse to call any human being an alien. They're not from space. And people from different countries are still people. I used to say it, but as I get older and hopefully wiser, I see the error in that.

I think we are too used to dehumanizing those we deem different that us. Illegal aliens, thugs and the like. It's like robbing them of their humanity, which in turn robs us of any sympathy we feel for those who look like them.

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Don't open the can.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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That sounds like a plan my friend! I'll bring the beer and some cherry Pepsi.

You my boy blue!

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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This is just me, but I refuse to call any human being an alien. They're not from space. And people from different countries are still people. I used to say it, but as I get older and hopefully wiser, I see the error in that.

I think we are too used to dehumanizing those we deem different that us. Illegal aliens, thugs and the like. It's like robbing them of their humanity, which in turn robs us of any sympathy we feel for those who look like them.

Well, according to the latest polls, those of us who believe that they should follow the law are in the minority and they apparently have plenty of sympathy. So don't call them aliens then, get the USCIS to stop referring to my wife as a resident alien (our N400 gets filed in 4 months)and just call them illegals. We have a law. They broke the law. That seems relatively simple to me. If I get caught without proper papers in most other countries (Mexico included), I don't get a lawyer, get to fight my removal for years, get any state benefits, I get put on a plane or bus pronto. If I were to overstay in Thailand, in addition to getting the boot I pay a fine for everyday of overstay. And, they are not citizens of the U.S. so it is a misnomer to call them "undocumented citizens", law breaking visitors? They can't be overstayers because they never had a visa in the first place. What do you call someone who breaks the law?, because they are human and have feelings too.

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Well, according to the latest polls, those of us who believe that they should follow the law are in the minority and they apparently have plenty of sympathy. So don't call them aliens then, get the USCIS to stop referring to my wife as a resident alien (our N400 gets filed in 4 months)and just call them illegals. We have a law. They broke the law. That seems relatively simple to me. If I get caught without proper papers in most other countries (Mexico included), I don't get a lawyer, get to fight my removal for years, get any state benefits, I get put on a plane or bus pronto. If I were to overstay in Thailand, in addition to getting the boot I pay a fine for everyday of overstay. And, they are not citizens of the U.S. so it is a misnomer to call them "undocumented citizens", law breaking visitors? They can't be overstayers because they never had a visa in the first place. What do you call someone who breaks the law?, because they are human and have feelings too.

Do we call criminals illegal? Because they break the law? We don't call bank robbers illegals. We don't call killers illegals.

I'm talking about how I see someone, not how everyone else sees them. You can call them whatever you like. That's on you.

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Do we call criminals illegal? Because they break the law? We don't call bank robbers illegals. We don't call killers illegals.

I'm talking about how I see someone, not how everyone else sees them. You can call them whatever you like. That's on you.

Never heard them called citizens.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Criminals, not illegals, I have heard illegals call all sorts of things.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Some context. Looks like 0bummer's Justice Department didn't want to give him the license, but the librul scumbags in Sacramento said, "LOL." Also, he didn't get a green card because he didn't receive a visa number. He got the visa number, and then he got the green card.

SAN FRANCISCO (CN) - The California Supreme Court unanimously approved an undocumented immigrant's admission to the State Bar on Thursday, a day after a state law allowing him to obtain a professional license took effect.

Sergio C. Garcia, 36, came to the U.S. with his parents in 1994 as a 17-year-old. Garcia's father - as a permanent legal resident - filed an immigration visa petition on behalf of his son, which officials accepted in 1995.

But the crushing backlog of Mexican nationals who are seeking legal residency means that 19 years later, Garcia still hasn't received a visa number.

Despite this, Garcia managed to graduate from high school and Cal State Chico, and received his law degree from Cal Northern School of Law in 2009. He passed the bar examination that same year.

The committee that approves State Bar applications extensively investigated Garcia, and found that his "outstanding moral character and significant contributions to the community" made him an attractive candidate for the Bar. But federal law generally bars undocumented immigrants from obtaining professional licenses.

At a hearing in September, Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye said the state's high court was bound by those federal restrictions, but added that federal law also allows state governments to override them. Days later, the Legislature amended business and professions statutes to authorize undocumented immigrants to practice law upon successful completion of the usual requirements.

The law took effect on Jan. 1. Today, and despite friend-of-the-court objections by the Justice Department, Cantil-Sakauye said the change in law allows the California Supreme Court to give Garcia a license to practice law.

"By explicitly authorizing a bar applicant 'who is not lawfully present in the United States' to obtain a law license, the statute expressly states that it applies to undocumented immigrants - rather than conferring a benefit generally without specifying that its beneficiaries may include undocumented immigrants - and thus 'affirmatively provides' that undocumented immigrants may obtain such a professional license so as to satisfy the requirements of federal law," the chief justice wrote, citing the high court's ruling in Martinez v. Regents of University of California.

The Martinez challenge came in 2010 after the Legislature amended state education law to exempt undocumented immigrants from much higher out-of-state tuition and fees at state universities.

And although the Justice Department had argued that Garcia's unlawful presence in the U.S. necessarily prevents him from taking the attorney's oath to support the Constitution, federal and state laws, Cantil-Sakauye wrote that illegal activities by themselves have never definitively kept attorneys from practicing law in California.

"The fact that an undocumented immigrant is present in the United States without lawful authorization does not itself involve moral turpitude or demonstrate moral unfitness so as to justify exclusion from the State Bar, or prevent the individual from taking an oath promising faithfully to discharge the duty to support the Constitution and laws of the United States and California," the chief justice wrote. "Although an undocumented immigrant's presence in this country is unlawful and can result in a variety of civil sanctions under federal immigration law (such as removal from the country or denial of a desired adjustment in immigration status), an undocumented immigrant's unauthorized presence does not constitute a criminal offense under federal law and thus is not subject to criminal sanctions. Moreover, federal law grants federal immigration officials broad discretion in determining under what circumstances to seek to impose civil sanctions upon an undocumented immigrant and in determining what sanctions to pursue. Under current federal immigration policy it is extremely unlikely that immigration officials would pursue sanctions against an undocumented immigrant who has been living in this country for a substantial period of time, who has been educated here, and whose only unlawful conduct is unlawful presence in this country. Under these circumstances, we conclude that the fact that an undocumented immigrant's presence in this country violates federal statutes is not itself a sufficient or persuasive basis for denying undocumented immigrants, as a class, admission to the State Bar."

The state's high court noted, however, that Garcia's immigration status would likely limit his future employment prospects. The new law itself outlined the likelihood that Garcia could be disqualified from representing clients before the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services agency, and that most law firms would shy away from knowingly hiring an undocumented worker.

"We conclude there is no state law or state public policy that would justify precluding undocumented immigrants, as a class, from obtaining a law license in California," Cantil-Sakauye wrote. "We assume that a licensed undocumented immigrant will make all necessary inquiries and take appropriate steps to comply with applicable legal restrictions and will advise potential clients of any possible adverse or limiting effect the attorney's immigration status may pose."

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/01/02/64215.htm

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Talking about morality and lawyers always confused me.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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99% of all lawyers give the rest a bad name.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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His Father is naturalized, wonder why he was having such a hard time getting the greencard?

ignorance?

on a lighter note - it's a good thing he's having some lobster tail !! wasn't a lobster tail roll, though :(

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