Need Help ... N-400 form - few questions & evidences

[christera22 8]

Hi all ,

I am stuck in a few parts of N-400 form.

A little bit of our case scenario... I became permanent resident (based on marriage to US citizen) in 2009, removed condition in 2011. My wife is a US citizen by birth. We didnt have money and this, that ...so I am filing N-400 in 2015. Now part 1 options for me :

1) Have been permanent resident for at least 3 years

2) Have been permanent for at least 3 years. In addition you have been married to and living with the same US citizen spouse for last 3 years and your spouse has been a citizen for last 3 years.

Which one should i click on ?

Also this is what my N-400 package is looking like - would that be enough ? do i have to provide our pics at differeent places , recommendation letters from friends & family ...as I did for permamnent residence application ?

Thanks & I appreciate all the replies I can get

1. Completed N-400 – Signed & Dated & passport pics
2. Money Order of $680 payable to U.S. Department of Homeland Security
3. Front & Back photocopy of Permanent Resident card
4. Copy of Old and Renewed Passport of Permanent Resident
5. Copy of US citizen`s (spouse) Passport
6. Copy of US citizen`s (spouse) birth certificate
7. Copy of our Marriage certificate
8. Copy of US citizen`s ( spouse) – 2 prior marriages
9. Permanent Resident`s Driving License
10. US Citizen`s Driving License
11. Form G-1145

Evidences of Joint Activities:

1. IRS Tax Transcripts- Married filed jointly for the years :
2. Bank Letter from our old bank & New bank showing joint accounts
3. Current Renting contract & letter from realty showing years of renting from them
4. Current Joint Car buying loan from our bank
5. Joint Car insurance
6. 2 Health Insurances showing each other as beneficiary name
7. State teachers retirement web print showing death beneficiary name
8. Medicare web print showing authorized person name
9. Water Bill from 2009 and 2015 showing both names
10. YMCA Joint Membership
11. Permanent Resident`s salary account showing US citizen`s name as wife
12. Unilevel alternative health business page showing Permanent Resident as spouse of US citizen
13. Joint Credit Cards
14. Joint Scottrade share account
15. Recent certificate course taken jointly
16. Dog Neutering & Dog obedience class showing both names

[JimmyHou 610]

Since you qualify under the 3 year or 5 year rules, you can apply using either, but the 5 year rule is easier.

[christera22 8]

Thank you JimmyHou. So I am understanding that I can go either by the 5 yr rule ( option1) or by the 3 yr rule ( option 2 ) . my queries are :

a) Does the 5 yr rule also means that you got GC from marriage with USC (I got my conditional GC in 2009, so it does make it over 5 years )

b) why do you state that the 5 yr rule is easier ?

c) regarding bills from bank/ utility services is it necessary to show bills from 2009 and bill from 2015 ?

d) reagrding the uppper question we did change residence in middle at 2011 and did file AR-11. would the difference of address in the old bill and new bill matter ?

Thanks and I would appreciate all replies I can get...This forum has saved our lives nin the past

. Thanks

Edited May 28, 2015 by christera22

[JimmyHou 610]

Thank you JimmyHou. So I am understanding that I can go either by the 5 yr rule ( option1) or by the 3 yr rule ( option 2 ) . my queries are :

a) Does the 5 yr rule also means that you got GC from marriage with USC (I got my conditional GC in 2009, so it does make it over 5 years )

b) why do you state that the 5 yr rule is easier ?

c) regarding bills from bank/ utility services is it necessary to show bills from 2009 and bill from 2015 ?

d) reagrding the uppper question we did change residence in middle at 2011 and did file AR-11. would the difference of address in the old bill and new bill matter ?

Thanks and I would appreciate all replies I can get...This forum has saved our lives nin the past

. Thanks

(a) The five year rule is for anyone who has been a permanent resident for 5 years regardless of how they got their green card. That is the standard application method. The 3 year rule is a special expedited naturalization method available to those who are married to USC citizens. The date that matters is the "Resident Since" date on your green card. If it is in 2009 then you could have applied under the 5 year rule in 2014.

(b) Under the 5 year rule you are applying under your own qualifications as a US PR for 5 years, not on your relationship with your spouse. In fact, you can be separated or divorced and still apply because your marriage has nothing to do with your application. You will not be required to supply evidence of a current relationship with your spouse. However, since you got your green card through marriage the interviewer may in some cases want to double check that you were in a legitimate relationship at the time you got your green card. Note that you will still need your marriage certificate.

© You wouldn't need any of this under the 5 year rule although as I said above you may need to show that you were with your spouse when you got your green card.

(d) People move all the time. Shouldn't matter, but again, you shouldn't need those bills under the 5 year rule because you don't need to prove that you are still married.

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

It seems like you want to ROC again, go with option 1 (5 years and get rid of joint evidences.) Good luck.

[christera22 8]

Thanks JimmyHou & NancyNguyen. What specific proofs, do you think I should show, for stating that I was in a legitimate relationship at the time I got my green card - as you stated ? Is my list of evidences stated in my original post should be ok ?

Thnaks so much

Edited May 29, 2015 by christera22

[JimmyHou 610]

Thanks JimmyHou & NancyNguyen. What specific proofs, do you think I should show, for stating that I was in a legitimate relationship at the time I got my green card - as you stated ? Is my list of evidences stated in my original post should be ok ?

Thnaks so much

Since you're applying under the 5 year rule, they are not likely to ask for anything other than your marriage certificate. If you've been living apart from your spouse, you mate want to take some if the things you listed to the interview just in case they are asked for. You won't need all the things you mentioned but if you have them available there's no harm in taking them with you.

Your spouse's divorce and marriage papers are important too. The fact that your husband has been married twice before (especially if the marriages were to immigrants) may raise some questions so it's a good idea to take some of the evidence you mentioned to the interview. Probably won't be needed.

Edited May 29, 2015 by JimmyHou

[christera22 8]

Thank you JummiHou. I am sending photocopies of my Indian passports as mentioned in the original post. Question is :

a) Do i need to photocopy all the pages with us visa stamps from 2007 & 2008 ? or just the address and name pages ?

b) I renewed passports...so do i need to photocopy both old & new passport ?

c) are these photocpies of documents need to be notarized ?

Thanks so much

[christera22 8]

Anyone regarding the passport question ?? Thanks

[Helpme123 9]

Thank you JummiHou. I am sending photocopies of my Indian passports as mentioned in the original post. Question is :

a) Do i need to photocopy all the pages with us visa stamps from 2007 & 2008 ? or just the address and name pages ?

b) I renewed passports...so do i need to photocopy both old & new passport ?

c) are these photocpies of documents need to be notarized ?

Thanks so much

a) Only the Address and name page of your passport is fine.

b) Your most recent passport would be best

c) No need to notarize. Only need to do that if it's specifically requested

[JimmyHou 610]

All passports you've used since you became a permanent resident.

[christera22 8]

All passports you've used since you became a permanent resident.

Thanks.. Yes i plan to photocopy both passports...but did you photcopy the visa pages ? Thanks

[christera22 8]

Did anyone Photocopy the visa pages of the passport or just the name and address page ?
Thanks

[JimmyHou 610]

No one seems to be answering. You asked the question about photocopying the visa pages six days ago You could have easily just photocopied all the visa pages and included them in the application by now. If USCIS doesn't want them they'll just toss them in the shredder.