I Cannot Believe What My Ears Heard, Today!!!

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

And the number of ""ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS"" George W. adm. processed a day was??? (not 2 to 4 k)

Oh, and the social security benefits are there for these ILLEGALS, along with "Obama phones, food stamps,".,.,.there is no end to it!

I was certainly no George W. fan.,.,.,he made huge mistakes (Iraq).,.,.,and many others. But, nothing like this.

Especially at the cost of tax paying Americans, who are doing immigration, ""(read this).,..,,,"""By The LAW, of the LAND."""

Come on ! Stop with the Obama phone lie for Pete's sake.

This is what happens when you watch too much Fox, you can't tell truth from fiction.

You don't bother to do your own research.

It started under the Bush administration and was funded through the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by an independent, not-for-profit corporation set up by the Federal Communications Commission. The USF is sustained by contributions from telecommunications companies, long distance companies, local telephone companies, wireless telephone companies, paging companies, and payphone providers.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/

As to the core of your point, the undocumented issue and DACA, Obama is not the first President to try to keep families together that are

documented with undocumented family members. Big whopping deal ! I waited 5 years for my now spouse and we were treated unfairly with

this immigration system but I will always remain in favor of DACA. The problem is that the service centers aren't operating with common sense

and change needs to happen but I will not make undocumented kids and teenagers the scape goats.

Congress isn't putting anything on the table so Obama came up with his own version. If the GOP would stop bitching and start

coming up with bills instead of fear mongering political theater played out in the media then we would all be better off.

By the way it's a lot about romancing the voters and no party really gives a hoot about the true issues because they aren't

political "talking points" that get them votes.

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/

The last thing we need is a Republican in the White House.

[NYCexpat 0]

1) Most Republicans are not opposed to legal immigration only to rewarding those who have contravened the laws and are now being granted amnesty while those of us who follow the laws are left to suffer. Amnesty is unfair to people who choose to follow the laws and also creates perverse incentives. My family would have been better off if my wife had broken the law and we stayed in the US (rather than moving to London 9 years ago).

2) To the person who posted that there is no such thing as an illegal person: we are not saying that the person is illegal as a human begin; we are saying that they are in the US illegally.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

1) Most Republicans are not opposed to legal immigration only to rewarding those who have contravened the laws and are now being granted amnesty while those of us who follow the laws are left to suffer. Amnesty is unfair to people who choose to follow the laws and also creates perverse incentives. My family would have been better off if my wife had broken the law and we stayed in the US (rather than moving to London 9 years ago).

2) To the person who posted that there is no such thing as an illegal person: we are not saying that the person is illegal as a human begin; we are saying that they are in the US illegally.

Obama deported more undocumented immigrants than any other president.

[Boiler 43,363]

Obama deported more undocumented immigrants than any other president.

He just counted them differently, those who were bounced are now in the numbers even if they came back in the following day.

[Mr&MrsJenkins 11]

Obama deported more undocumented immigrants than any other president.

They are not undocumented, they are ILLEGALS.

[asdf123 7]

Here is the link to the news story .... If anyone is interested ...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/18/immigrants-applying-to-enter-us-legally-facing-longer-waits/?intcmp=latestnews

Edited May 19, 2015 by asdf123

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

They are not undocumented, they are ILLEGALS.

I refuse to call a human being an illegal. They are undocumented. Choose your words, I choose mine.

[Boiler 43,363]

I refuse to call a human being an illegal. They are undocumented. Choose your words, I choose mine.

Undocumented in nonsensical, you need documentation to get DACA, DAPA etc etc.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Undocumented in nonsensical, you need documentation to get DACA, DAPA etc etc.

Which would then make the undocumented documented after the fact.

I don't like the word Alien ( immigrants who came legally) either for that matter.

I do agree that undocumented immigrants (or their parents ) have acted illegally by either coming here or being brought here as small

children by no fault of their own ( DACA).

I hope that USCIS will get their act together and put USC first in line, seems they can't get their service center drama on an even keel

with or without DACA numbers in the mix.

[Boiler 43,363]

No documents you do not get DACA, I guess there are some that wander in with nothing but nobody who has been here for a while would fall into that category.

[raven52 233]

Ebunoluwa, You are such a sadly mis-guided liberal, the word used by ""YOUR"" president today was ""ILLEGAL"".,.,., not me not Boiler, not Mr. and Mrs Jenkins! It was your president.

These are NOT children kept from their parents, and they are people that broke the law by the way they came to the USA, illegal border crossings, over staying visas, and the pipeline through Mexico, is a nightmare. Why will obama (deserves no caps) not build the fence? Let people come to this country,...,.,.,""the legal way"".,.,.,the same way my wife came.

If you have adopted this guy as ""your messiah".,.,.,then wait and watch what happens the next year or so. YOU, will be so proud.

And in your liberal mind you think that these ""2 to 4 thousand"" ILLEGALS (as called by YOUR president) are not getting social security benefits, food stamps, obama phones, and a very quick way to a GC, ""FOR NOTHING"".,.,.,no pay.,.,.no waiting, gut wrenching months waiting on USCIS.,.,.,.,.YOU.,.,,.YES.,.,.YOU, are very uninformed! You might want to check with some of your liberal

friends, about what these, criminals, and other also rans are getting.,.,.,.,""are getting for no cost to them, no visa fees, no waiting times with USCIS,"".,.,.,.,as quoted by YOUR president today, these ""Illegals"" will hold president over ""LEGAL paying spousal and fiance visas, until they are processed""..,.,.,.and WHAT part of this is fair to the people waiting at TSC, for 8,9,10 months, for a "paid for" K-1 visa???

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Ebunoluwa, You are such a sadly mis-guided liberal, the word used by ""YOUR"" president today was ""ILLEGAL"".,.,., not me not Boiler, not Mr. and Mrs Jenkins! It was your president.

These are NOT children kept from their parents, and they are people that broke the law by the way they came to the USA, illegal border crossings, over staying visas, and the pipeline through Mexico, is a nightmare. Why will obama (deserves no caps) not build the fence? Let people come to this country,...,.,.,""the legal way"".,.,.,the same way my wife came.

If you have adopted this guy as ""your messiah".,.,.,then wait and watch what happens the next year or so. YOU, will be so proud.

And in your liberal mind you think that these ""2 to 4 thousand"" ILLEGALS (as called by YOUR president) are not getting social security benefits, food stamps, obama phones, and a very quick way to a GC, ""FOR NOTHING"".,.,.,no pay.,.,.no waiting, gut wrenching months waiting on USCIS.,.,.,.,.YOU.,.,,.YES.,.,.YOU, are very uninformed! You might want to check with some of your liberal

friends, about what these, criminals, and other also rans are getting.,.,.,.,""are getting for no cost to them, no visa fees, no waiting times with USCIS,"".,.,.,.,as quoted by YOUR president today, these ""Illegals"" will hold president over ""LEGAL paying spousal and fiance visas, until they are processed""..,.,.,.and WHAT part of this is fair to the people waiting at TSC, for 8,9,10 months, for a "paid for" K-1 visa???

1. If Obama uses the word illegal to describe a human being then it doesn't automatically mean I do. So what is your point ?

2. Sorry but your Fox rhetoric of "messiah" is ridiculous.

3.There you go again with the Obama phone, I guess you didn't read the link I posted to enlighten you.

I really can not take your comments seriously, you are all over the place. Rantings and not well thought out ideas.

[TBoneTX 42,991]

[Moderator hat on]

Folks, please adhere more faithfully to the subject of the thread, or posts might have to be removed as off-topic or bickering. We all have our political preferences, but let's focus on the situation.

[Regular-member hat on]

A couple of years ago, a member performed an analysis of the effect of DACA on processing at the CSC. The link is here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/421247-i-129f-delay-at-the-csc-a-comprehensive-analysis-of-the-data/

In the very last post of the thread, the member gave links for other relevant analyses that he'd performed. I find it all to be fascinating reading.

People here understandably bash the Service Centers for slow processing. Rightly or not, I tend to believe that petition-processing was thrown into an uproar as a result of the rather sudden political directive to focus on the DACA petitions. The Service Centers had all that they could handle as it was, and perhaps they still have not recovered.

Bear in mind that the member who performed the analyses hasn't logged on to VJ since October 2014, so any questions that you have for him might not be answered.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Long story short : I do not feel the urge to blame, bad mouth and let my anger out on DACA kids just because our journey took forever.

I can be upset with the poor managing of the service centers and I can rally for change and I can even try to effect change with written letters

but I will not vent my anger of my own unfair treatment towards DACA recipients. That is misdirected.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

[Moderator hat on]

Folks, please adhere more faithfully to the subject of the thread, or posts might have to be removed as off-topic or bickering. We all have our political preferences, but let's focus on the situation.

[Regular-member hat on]

A couple of years ago, a member performed an analysis of the effect of DACA on processing at the CSC. The link is here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/421247-i-129f-delay-at-the-csc-a-comprehensive-analysis-of-the-data/

In the very last post of the thread, the member gave links for other relevant analyses that he'd performed. I find it all to be fascinating reading.

People here understandably bash the Service Centers for slow processing. Rightly or not, I tend to believe that petition-processing was thrown into an uproar as a result of the rather sudden political directive to focus on the DACA petitions. The Service Centers had all that they could handle as it was, and perhaps they still have not recovered.

Bear in mind that the member who performed the analyses hasn't logged on to VJ since October 2014, so any questions that you have for him might not be answered.

I agree that the Service Centers were impacted right after DACA but I find that USCIS just can't get the balance right with CSC and TSC for example.

I believe it is a managing problem that can do much better if they cared to.