Christian Children in Egypt Imprisoned for 'Blasphemy' after Mocking ISIS

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I am pointing out your denial that ISIS is considered Muslim . Entire Islamic countries believe that ... But not Marvin .The shooters that dies in Texas last week . You claim they were not Muslim ... How were they sent off ?

Just a regular funeral home ?. These non Muslims ... Did they get that full fledge Islamic funeral ?

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/09/11/3566181/why-isis-is-in-fact-not-islamic/

Indeed, even from the viewpoint of a casual observer, ISIS is an abomination to Islam. Explosions tend to capture the media’s attention more than peaceful coexistence, and a minuscule minority of extremist groups claiming to be Islamic have exploited this fact as a way to reinvent Islam as a “violent” religion. But just because you shout God’s name while committing murder doesn’t make your actions righteous. Islam, as millions of Muslims can attest, is a peaceful religion that calls on its followers to choose community over conflict, or, as it says in Surah al-Hujurat of the Qur’an (49:13): “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise [each other]).”

But ISIS clearly has little regard for this or other fundamental tenets of Islam. They have sparked the rage of Iraqi Muslims by carelessly blowing up copies of the Qur’an, and they have killed their fellow Muslims, be they Sunni or Shia. Even extremist Muslims who engage in warfare have strict rules of engagement and prohibitions against harming women and children, but ISIS has opted to ignore even this by slaughtering innocent youth and using rape and sexual slavery as a weapon.

And despite the conservative backlash, Obama’s analysis has received support from an unlikely voice: Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY). During an appearance on Fox News’ Hannity, the potential 2016 presidential candidate, praised the president for differentiating ISIS ideology from the beliefs of Muslims in America and around the world. “Well, I think there was one important point that he was making about them not being Islamic or a form of true Islam,” he said. “I think it is important not only to the American public but for the world and the Islamic world to point out this is not a true form of Islam. This is an aberrant form that should not represent most of the civilized Islamic world.”

Countless Islamic groups around the globe have also vehemently rejected ISIS. French Imams are blasting the militant group from their pulpits. Britian’s largest Mosque has declared them “Un-Islamic.” Sunni and Shia clerics in Iraq have distributed a fatwa to nearly 50,000 mosques announcing that ISIS is “not in any way linked to [the Muslim] faith” and warning that failing to stand up against the group is effectively a sin. Even Egypt’s Grand Mufti has lambasted the group, and Dar al-Ifta, one of the most influential Muslim schools in the world, has launched a global campaign to strike the word “Islamic” from ISIS’s title, seeking to rebrand it as “al-Qaeda Separatists in Iraq and Syria,” or QSIS, saying the organization has “tarnished image of Islam across the globe.”

As one Libyan tweeted: “If you think Muslims aren’t condemning ISIS, it’s not because Muslims aren’t condemning ISIS. It’s because you’re not listening to Muslims.”

Wow, a conservative speaking out and saying that ISIS isn't a true form of Islam. How about that...

Edited May 14, 2015 by Stay Woke

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We get it.

It is the Egyptians you need to educate.

Is there some sort of Muslim outreach programme that could help?

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/09/11/3566181/why-isis-is-in-fact-not-islamic/

Indeed, even from the viewpoint of a casual observer, ISIS is an abomination to Islam. Explosions tend to capture the media’s attention more than peaceful coexistence, and a minuscule minority of extremist groups claiming to be Islamic have exploited this fact as a way to reinvent Islam as a “violent” religion. But just because you shout God’s name while committing murder doesn’t make your actions righteous. Islam, as millions of Muslims can attest, is a peaceful religion that calls on its followers to choose community over conflict, or, as it says in Surah al-Hujurat of the Qur’an (49:13): “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise [each other]).”

But ISIS clearly has little regard for this or other fundamental tenets of Islam. They have sparked the rage of Iraqi Muslims by carelessly blowing up copies of the Qur’an, and they have killed their fellow Muslims, be they Sunni or Shia. Even extremist Muslims who engage in warfare have strict rules of engagement and prohibitions against harming women and children, but ISIS has opted to ignore even this by slaughtering innocent youth and using rape and sexual slavery as a weapon.

And despite the conservative backlash, Obama’s analysis has received support from an unlikely voice: Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY). During an appearance on Fox News’ Hannity, the potential 2016 presidential candidate, praised the president for differentiating ISIS ideology from the beliefs of Muslims in America and around the world. “Well, I think there was one important point that he was making about them not being Islamic or a form of true Islam,” he said. “I think it is important not only to the American public but for the world and the Islamic world to point out this is not a true form of Islam. This is an aberrant form that should not represent most of the civilized Islamic world.”

Wow, a conservative speaking out and saying that ISIS isn't a true form of Islam. How about that...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I am saying what I believe . ISIS follows the same Koran as you do Marvin . watch the first five minutes . ISIS following in the same footsteps . ... Rid the world of Christians ......Folks in Turkey .. followed the same Koran as you do ..... 100 years ago . They crucified Christians 100 years ago in the name of the Muslim religion ... Same as today with ISIS. The Kenyan could not even say it was a genocide .

I also share with Armenian Americans – so many of whom are descended from genocide survivors - a principled commitment to commemorating and ending genocide. That starts with acknowledging the tragic instances of genocide in world history. As a U.S. Senator, I have stood with the Armenian American community in calling for Turkey's acknowledgement of the Armenian Genocide. Two years ago, I criticized the Secretary of State for the firing of U.S. Ambassador to Armenia, John Evans, after he properly used the term "genocide" to describe Turkey's slaughter of thousands of Armenians starting in 1915. I shared with Secretary Rice my firmly held conviction that the Armenian Genocide is not an allegation, a personal opinion, or a point of view, but rather a widely documented fact supported by an overwhelming body of historical evidence. The facts are undeniable. An official policy that calls on diplomats to distort the historical facts is an untenable policy. As a senator, I strongly support passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.Res.106 and S.Res.106), and as President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide.

~B.H. Obama

His predecessor, on the other hand, never called the Armenian genocide by its name.

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And the Muslims here reading it, what are they doing?

Just say that you want to rid the US of Muslims. I'd at least respect you for it, instead of hiding behind empty rhetoric. If you're going to get banned, fall on your own sword since you believe it so much. Or you can take the coward's way out and keep doing what you're doing.

Oh I never said we should rid Muslims from America (you always try to put words in peoples mouths ). I just understand what we will soon see in the United States .What Europe is going through now .. What just happened in Texas last week . What happened in Paris a few months ago . Just remember the words See you in NY I believe ISIS and others are here ... sheltered among folks that have the same beliefs . The Kenyans open borders have assured us of this .

His predecessor, on the other hand, never called the Armenian genocide by its name.

I stand corrected dog

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The Kenyans open borders, eh? The extremist threat in this country same as in Europe, is mostly homegrown. Despite what Farah and Limbaugh and Beck tell you, open borders have nothing to do with it.

I stand corrected dog

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

We get it.

It is the Egyptians you need to educate.

Is there some sort of Muslim outreach programme that could help?

You're talking about a country's government. That type of change comes from within and outside.

Oh I never said we should rid Muslims from America (you always try to put words in peoples mouths ). I just understand what we will soon see in the United States .What Europe is going through now .. What just happened in Texas last week . What happened in Paris a few months ago . Just remember the words See you in NY I believe ISIS and others are here ... sheltered among folks that have the same beliefs . The Kenyans open borders have assured us of this .

More Americans die here by other Americans.

Edited May 14, 2015 by Stay Woke

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You're talking about a country's government. That type of change comes from within and outside.

This article is all about local Muslims not understanding the lack of connection.

The Kenyans open borders, eh? The extremist threat in this country same as in Europe, is mostly homegrown. Despite what Farah and Limbaugh and Beck tell you, open borders have nothing to do with it.

In the UK it is 99% not homegrown, left 1% in there because you never know.

I assumed Europe was the same.

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See you in NY

i thought you said this over obola. i can't keep up.

[GandD 5,966]

i thought you said this over obola. i can't keep up.

It was said by one of the gitmo detainees released for PVT Coward Deserter.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

In the UK it is 99% not homegrown, left 1% in there because you never know.

I assumed Europe was the same.

The reporting would suggest otherwise...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-k-s-cameron-outlines-plans-for-new-counterterrorism-legislation-1431524336

LONDON—Prime Minister David Cameron outlined plans on Wednesday for new laws intended to crack down on Islamist extremism and radicalization in Britain, as the government seeks to counter the threat of homegrown terror attacks.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/14/hundreds-of-potential-terror-suspects-have-returned-to-uk-from-syria-police

Police battling a growing tide of Britons attracted to jihad may ask for new powers to force people on to deradicalisation programmes, Britain’s counter-terror chief has said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/14/police-arrest-terrorist-a-day_n_7284346.html

New figures have revealed that police are arresting on average one suspected terrorist a day as hundreds of extremists return to the UK from Syria.

Scotland Yard said Thursday that more than 700 British extremists have travelled to the war-torn country, with a “significant proportion” of them intent on joining the self-proclaimed Islamic State§, also know as ISIS or ISIL.

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It was said by one of the gitmo detainees released for PVT Coward Deserter.

oh. my memory is poo

[Boiler 43,423]

I think you are confusing homegrown as indigenous with those who have British Citizenship.

UK has a large Muslim immigrant population some of whom have turned aside from the religion of peace and support ISIS.

[GandD 5,966]

Que Spooks

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I think you are confusing homegrown as indigenous with those who have British Citizenship.

UK has a large Muslim immigrant population some of whom have turned aside from the religion of peace and support ISIS.

The two perps that committed the last terrorist attack in the UK were born and raised in the UK. They were not even born into Muslim families but were converts. Those are not homegrown extremists?

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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Some of the others:

2008 Exeter attempted bombing Mohamed Abdulaziz Rashid Saeed-Alim (Nicky Reilly)

Nicky Raymond Reilly (now known as Mohamed Abdulaziz Rashid Saeed-Alim), aged 22, was born in Plymouth, where he lived with his mother, Kim. He had previously been detained in a mental health hospital.^[16] Since his conversion to Islam and changing his name,^[3] he came under the influence of religious extremists,^[17] who reportedly radicalised him into detonating a bomb in Exeter.^[3][18]

Miles Cooper letter bomb campaign

Miles Cooper, a 27 year-old former primary school caretaker from Cherry Hinton near Cambridge in the United Kingdom, was arrested on 19 February 2007 in conjunction with the 2007 letter bombs campaign, as a result of the Operation Hansel investigation.