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Hello Canadians,

I am only at the NOA1 checkpoint right now but since we have been sent to CSC rather than my predicted TSC I have began to worry about things a lot sooner than I had planned.

Firstly, I have read, I think, every thread related to this topic so far but most seem outdated and I would appreciate advice specific to my own case :)

I currently own a Hyundai Elantra 2013 that is financed. I owe too much still to sell it, and my bank has already told me I can continue to make the payments if the vehicle moves with me to the US so that is not a problem.

My questions involve importing the vehicle. In order to import my car I know it has to be EPA and DOT approved as per US standards. As far as I understand, Hyundai Canada (nor America) do not issue compliance letters for FMVSS standards, only the Canadian standards. My car, however, DOES have a sticker under the hood complying with EPA USA standards. Some threads that I have read say that Canadian standards will do for the DOT part - can anyone confirm this? I realize the Canadian compliance letter would be useful as well to state that no recalls have been made on the vehicle.

Does anyone have any recent updates for importing their Hyundai vehicle? I don't want to pay an import company to do it for me.

The car will be moving to New Jersey, so any advice on obtaining registration and licensing (especially since my car is financed through RBC bank) would be helpful as well. :)

Thanks everyone and good luck on your journeys!


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i'm not sure about the compliance piece.

BUT I don't know that you'll be able to register it easily in New Jersey because generally the title bureau is going to want to see that the car does not have any liens on it, which yours does since you don't yet own it.

There are a lot of different hoops to jump through when moving vehicles state to state and it is even more complicated when bringing a car from Canada.

When I brought my car, I had to take it to the licensing office first to do an out of state inspection. That is when they check to see if the VIN matches the paperwork. Then you have to go to the title bureau (some but not all states) to basically get a new title for your car. It is like you are purchasing a car from yourself and getting it titled in your name in a new place. Your car is not going to be lien-free so they may not issue a title to you. If they don't do that, then you won't be able to get plates etc. There are different rules depending on where you are but they all tie together.

If I were you I would first call the title bureau and the DMV near where you are moving and ask them what they will need. Just because RBC says you can keep paying them doesn't mean that is all you have to consider. Insurance is affected by where the car is registered too. I'm actually shocked RBC would say you can export the car if you still owe so much on it. They can't exactly repossess it if it's in the U.S.


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2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
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2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
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2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
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2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
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Thank you Ms Hogan! I am trying to piece all the different parts together about how to move my car to New Jersey. I have seen other threads also stating the issue about the accessing the title to get plates and having a lean on the car. So far what I can gather is that Ontario do not issue titles but only registrations.. and I have the registration do I not? This part is still unclear to me.

Thanks so much for the information that have provided, I will definitely get my fiancé to ask some questions at the DMV and head to RBC myself to clear things up about my loan.


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04/09/15: NOA1

06/10/15: NOA2

09/04/15: Interview - Approved!

09/18/15: Visa received

09/24/15: POE

10/24/15: Wedding!!

AOS

11/12/15: AOS packet sent

11/15/15: AOS packet received

11/16/15: NOA1 for I-131 and I-765

11/18/15: NOA1 for I-485

12/11/15: Biometrics

02/06/16: EAD card in production, AP sent RFE

02/10/16: EAD mailed

02/11/16: EAD combo card received in mail including AP - Service request sent for why case tracker shows RFE

03/16/16: AOS Interview - Approved

03/22/16: Green Card received in mail

 

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12/18/17: I-751 Filed at VSC
12/22/17: NOA1

02/02/18: Biometrics Appointment

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There was 1 person on here that had issues with their Hyundai. I think they had to get an importer to help with the whole ordeal.....You may find his posts if you do a search here on VJ. I will look later if I remember......


Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Thanks so much, those links are really helpful.


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04/09/15: NOA1

06/10/15: NOA2

09/04/15: Interview - Approved!

09/18/15: Visa received

09/24/15: POE

10/24/15: Wedding!!

AOS

11/12/15: AOS packet sent

11/15/15: AOS packet received

11/16/15: NOA1 for I-131 and I-765

11/18/15: NOA1 for I-485

12/11/15: Biometrics

02/06/16: EAD card in production, AP sent RFE

02/10/16: EAD mailed

02/11/16: EAD combo card received in mail including AP - Service request sent for why case tracker shows RFE

03/16/16: AOS Interview - Approved

03/22/16: Green Card received in mail

 

ROC

12/18/17: I-751 Filed at VSC
12/22/17: NOA1

02/02/18: Biometrics Appointment

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I just did all of this yesterday. I have a 2013 Hyundai Accent. I called Hyundai Canada for this famous compliance letter. Save your dime because they will tell you straight up they don't do that anymore.

Go check the stickers on the door and under the hood.

You are looking for: U.S. EPA: #### ### and OBD: CA II and No Adjustment Needed. These 3 things are your key to freedom. I know its there because it is on mine. Find the Form 3520-1 online and open it with Adobe Reader. Fill out that form. Leave the Customer Entry # blank...your not a broker. Go online and find the Port Entry Code of the Port you will be entering from. For example....I am entering the US at Houlton, ME so my Port Entry Code is 0106. Next look up HS-7 Declaration (DOT), fill that out the same. Don't sign them until you are at the point of entry. Make a copy of your bill of sale or lease. (Get a letter from you financing or bank on letter head saying they are allowing you to transport the vehicle to the USA with money still owning and that you have made arrangements with them for payment). Make a copy of the registration of the car and also the permit for the license plate. Make a copy of your insurance card. If you have the phone number & fax of the port you will be entering you can fax the title of your car ahead of time for them to search the title to speed things up at the border. Send with a cover page of when you plan on entering the US and the details of your car that is still under a lease and also the letter from you finance with your agreement. Call them to make sure they received it. YOUR DONE. Now all you have to do is show up at the border with the car.

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I just did all of this yesterday. I have a 2013 Hyundai Accent. I called Hyundai Canada for this famous compliance letter. Save your dime because they will tell you straight up they don't do that anymore.

Go check the stickers on the door and under the hood.

You are looking for: U.S. EPA: #### ### and OBD: CA II and No Adjustment Needed. These 3 things are your key to freedom. I know its there because it is on mine. Find the Form 3520-1 online and open it with Adobe Reader. Fill out that form. Leave the Customer Entry # blank...your not a broker. Go online and find the Port Entry Code of the Port you will be entering from. For example....I am entering the US at Houlton, ME so my Port Entry Code is 0106. Next look up HS-7 Declaration (DOT), fill that out the same. Don't sign them until you are at the point of entry. Make a copy of your bill of sale or lease. (Get a letter from you financing or bank on letter head saying they are allowing you to transport the vehicle to the USA with money still owning and that you have made arrangements with them for payment). Make a copy of the registration of the car and also the permit for the license plate. Make a copy of your insurance card. If you have the phone number & fax of the port you will be entering you can fax the title of your car ahead of time for them to search the title to speed things up at the border. Send with a cover page of when you plan on entering the US and the details of your car that is still under a lease and also the letter from you finance with your agreement. Call them to make sure they received it. YOUR DONE. Now all you have to do is show up at the border with the car.

WOW you are awesome. This is really helpful for me. I realize different states have different ways of doing things but do you think you could update what happens when you go to register your car in your state?


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04/09/15: NOA1

06/10/15: NOA2

09/04/15: Interview - Approved!

09/18/15: Visa received

09/24/15: POE

10/24/15: Wedding!!

AOS

11/12/15: AOS packet sent

11/15/15: AOS packet received

11/16/15: NOA1 for I-131 and I-765

11/18/15: NOA1 for I-485

12/11/15: Biometrics

02/06/16: EAD card in production, AP sent RFE

02/10/16: EAD mailed

02/11/16: EAD combo card received in mail including AP - Service request sent for why case tracker shows RFE

03/16/16: AOS Interview - Approved

03/22/16: Green Card received in mail

 

ROC

12/18/17: I-751 Filed at VSC
12/22/17: NOA1

02/02/18: Biometrics Appointment

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I have a 2010 Hyundai Elantra that I'll be importing at the beginning of May...I obtained the letter of compliance from Hyundai Canada, which specifically states that they can't speak to whether it's compliant to U.S. standards, however, I thought it wouldn't hurt to have it just in case. I also have the compliance stickers under the hood, though. So I can't help you much now (though Bonnie&Bob has amazing info above, wow), but I will certainly post once I've imported my car in 3 weeks' time and let you know what issues I had (I'm praying none!).

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I have a 2010 Hyundai Elantra that I'll be importing at the beginning of May...I obtained the letter of compliance from Hyundai Canada, which specifically states that they can't speak to whether it's compliant to U.S. standards, however, I thought it wouldn't hurt to have it just in case. I also have the compliance stickers under the hood, though. So I can't help you much now (though Bonnie&Bob has amazing info above, wow), but I will certainly post once I've imported my car in 3 weeks' time and let you know what issues I had (I'm praying none!).

Thank you so much that would be really helpful!! :) My car is the only thing I am actually worried about right now so anyone sharing their experience with a Hyundai is a HUGE help.


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04/09/15: NOA1

06/10/15: NOA2

09/04/15: Interview - Approved!

09/18/15: Visa received

09/24/15: POE

10/24/15: Wedding!!

AOS

11/12/15: AOS packet sent

11/15/15: AOS packet received

11/16/15: NOA1 for I-131 and I-765

11/18/15: NOA1 for I-485

12/11/15: Biometrics

02/06/16: EAD card in production, AP sent RFE

02/10/16: EAD mailed

02/11/16: EAD combo card received in mail including AP - Service request sent for why case tracker shows RFE

03/16/16: AOS Interview - Approved

03/22/16: Green Card received in mail

 

ROC

12/18/17: I-751 Filed at VSC
12/22/17: NOA1

02/02/18: Biometrics Appointment

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Wonder why that 1 person with the Hyundai had so many issues? Glad its working out


Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Thank you Ms Hogan! I am trying to piece all the different parts together about how to move my car to New Jersey. I have seen other threads also stating the issue about the accessing the title to get plates and having a lean on the car. So far what I can gather is that Ontario do not issue titles but only registrations.. and I have the registration do I not? This part is still unclear to me.

Thanks so much for the information that have provided, I will definitely get my fiancé to ask some questions at the DMV and head to RBC myself to clear things up about my loan.

You are correct, in Ontario we only received registrations as opposed to titles. Registrations are what show ownership in the same way a title does. For a lease it will show the leasing company info along with the person leasing the car. For financing, mine always only showed my name. So that's where it's tricky here. In most states, the bank or financing company will hold the title until the payments are complete at which point the lien is lifted and the title cleared.

What does your registration say on it? JUST your name? A title bureau in New Jersey isn't going to be able to find lien information on a car from Ontario unless your paperwork says it HOWEVER they may very well ask to see something in writing that shows the car is paid in full. After all, you are importing it. It is like CanadaYou is selling it to AmericaYou and you need to prove you're allowed to do so.

When I send cars overseas (yes, I actually do that in my business) even the OUTgoing cars have to be shown as clear in title and fully paid for. When I bring cars to the state I live in or send them state to state I have to provide a title signed (and usually notarized) by the seller and with all the information for the buyer already completed. I also have to provide a bill of sale showing that it was fully paid.

I still think that you would benefit from you fiance talking to someone at the DMV and make sure he knows they'll be there in a few months so he gets the same answer. And remember the DMV and the title bureau are two separate pieces you need to deal with! Good luck!


USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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I have a 2010 Hyundai Elantra that I'll be importing at the beginning of May...I obtained the letter of compliance from Hyundai Canada, which specifically states that they can't speak to whether it's compliant to U.S. standards, however, I thought it wouldn't hurt to have it just in case. I also have the compliance stickers under the hood, though. So I can't help you much now (though Bonnie&Bob has amazing info above, wow), but I will certainly post once I've imported my car in 3 weeks' time and let you know what issues I had (I'm praying none!).

Hey! I was wondering if you were able to share your experience with your Hyundai if you have happened to make your POE yet? I would love to hear another personal experience from someone with a Hyundai.

Edited by beccajayne93

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K1

04/09/15: NOA1

06/10/15: NOA2

09/04/15: Interview - Approved!

09/18/15: Visa received

09/24/15: POE

10/24/15: Wedding!!

AOS

11/12/15: AOS packet sent

11/15/15: AOS packet received

11/16/15: NOA1 for I-131 and I-765

11/18/15: NOA1 for I-485

12/11/15: Biometrics

02/06/16: EAD card in production, AP sent RFE

02/10/16: EAD mailed

02/11/16: EAD combo card received in mail including AP - Service request sent for why case tracker shows RFE

03/16/16: AOS Interview - Approved

03/22/16: Green Card received in mail

 

ROC

12/18/17: I-751 Filed at VSC
12/22/17: NOA1

02/02/18: Biometrics Appointment

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Hey! I was wondering if you were able to share your experience with your Hyundai if you have happened to make your POE yet? I would love to hear another personal experience from someone with a Hyundai.

Also -

Two threads which specifically mention Hyundai's from the Canadian forum - relatively recent

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/361932-help-car-import-from-canada-to-us/page-4

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/485961-importing-a-vehicle-from-canada-to-us/page-2

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Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

******************

Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

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04/09/15: NOA1

06/10/15: NOA2

09/04/15: Interview - Approved!

09/18/15: Visa received

09/24/15: POE

10/24/15: Wedding!!

AOS

11/12/15: AOS packet sent

11/15/15: AOS packet received

11/16/15: NOA1 for I-131 and I-765

11/18/15: NOA1 for I-485

12/11/15: Biometrics

02/06/16: EAD card in production, AP sent RFE

02/10/16: EAD mailed

02/11/16: EAD combo card received in mail including AP - Service request sent for why case tracker shows RFE

03/16/16: AOS Interview - Approved

03/22/16: Green Card received in mail

 

ROC

12/18/17: I-751 Filed at VSC
12/22/17: NOA1

02/02/18: Biometrics Appointment

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