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Hey everyone,

I was just wondering if there are any couples here that ended up moving back to Canada, or are thinking about it either for the immediate future or long-term.

I ask because after going throught he US immigration process, and discussing about moving up to the west coast, we are questioning if whether we would be happier in Canada overall.

We don't have strong ties in the US, or many friends here since we are always working and trying to save money, and all my friends/family in Canada are really the reason we'd like to be back in Vancouver.

We are just so stressed, and both severly depressed living down in the south, especially as two married women. We live in a small town, and I come from a big city. I don't have my license, so it's hard for me to get around (no transit system/cab system) without constantly relying on my wife. It makes me feel really dependant on her, and she has to do most of the running around/errands etc. I would just like to be back in a functioning, beautiful city again.

I also haven't had any health care since I've been here, being that we are just barely getting by financially, and that's scary to me.

One issue is that my wife had a DUI when she was 18, which essentially makes her inadmissible to Canada, and we'd have to go through something called "Rehabillitation" before getting her permnanet residency in Canada. A huge pain, but we'd probably move up to Seattle and just do it all from there.

I'm just really curious if any other couples are in the same boat, and are really not happy living in the US?

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There has been more then a few couples that moved back to Canada.

When I get a chance I'll try and find some of those threads.


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Hi,

I'm a Japanese man married to a U.S citizen man. We're sort of in the same boat. I got my GC last year, and I also discussed with my US spouse about moving to Japan possibly. Unlike Canada, same-sex marriage is not legal (but not illegal) in Japan. So that's the only reason we live in the States for now. I know how you feel about living in the South as two married women. At the same time you're lucky you can choose which country to live in, an option that we do not have.

I think you have a good reason to move to Canada. You can apply for a re-entry permit, which is good for two years. So you both can move to Canada and see how things go. If you'd prefer to live in the States, you can safely come back to the States without having to start over your GC process.

I'm relatively happy living in the States. I say happy because living in the States is the only way for me to live a happy life with my partner. I really wish I could live in Japan, but he'll be treated, from a legal and immigration perspective, as a total stranger to me (or BFF). Canada and the States are like sisters/brothers. The fact you're married to a U.S. citizen gives you more freedom.

I wish you both good luck!

Hey everyone,

I was just wondering if there are any couples here that ended up moving back to Canada, or are thinking about it either for the immediate future or long-term.

I ask because after going throught he US immigration process, and discussing about moving up to the west coast, we are questioning if whether we would be happier in Canada overall.

We don't have strong ties in the US, or many friends here since we are always working and trying to save money, and all my friends/family in Canada are really the reason we'd like to be back in Vancouver.

We are just so stressed, and both severly depressed living down in the south, especially as two married women. We live in a small town, and I come from a big city. I don't have my license, so it's hard for me to get around (no transit system/cab system) without constantly relying on my wife. It makes me feel really dependant on her, and she has to do most of the running around/errands etc. I would just like to be back in a functioning, beautiful city again.

I also haven't had any health care since I've been here, being that we are just barely getting by financially, and that's scary to me.

One issue is that my wife had a DUI when she was 18, which essentially makes her inadmissible to Canada, and we'd have to go through something called "Rehabillitation" before getting her permnanet residency in Canada. A huge pain, but we'd probably move up to Seattle and just do it all from there.

I'm just really curious if any other couples are in the same boat, and are really not happy living in the US?


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I'm sorry to hear that your options are limited! So in Japan it's not illegal but it's not legal to be recognized as anything?? That sounds like an awful grey area.

Yeah, it's fortunate that Canada isn't an ocean away. I'm just so mentally drained living down here, I can't even describe it, I just feel like I can't be fully happy if we stay in the US but at the same time we're stuck and just want to settle down and go back to school and live normally and permanently somewhere.


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Any chances of moving somewhere more liberal but within the US?


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Any chances of moving somewhere more liberal but within the US?

We were originally thinking Portland or Seattle, but honestly, I really just don't like this country, and neither does my wife.

We'd be closer to Canada, but we'd still be alone. We'd still be missing all the things we are missing now.

We'd both have to wait another year for school to get in-state tuition, still wouldn't be able to afford health care, it just still wouldn't be where we ultimately want to be. As much as I like Seattle and Portland, I've been there many times, it still would not feel like home.


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No where ever feels like home unless you make it, but perhaps being closer to BC would help. There is nothing quite like BC, I get it. Heck even my husband gets it and he's been there once. LOL


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No where ever feels like home unless you make it, but perhaps being closer to BC would help. There is nothing quite like BC, I get it. Heck even my husband gets it and he's been there once. LOL

Yeah, my wife is more in love with Vancouver than I am. She's been cripplingly depressed some days wishing we could be back there permanently, it was really hard for us to leave a few weeks ago when we went to visit for the first time in a year and a half.

It doesn't feel like home here too because nobody around here has any drive or aspirations, everyone is perfectly fine with living and dying in this small town, never going to school, doing drugs and just struggling their whole life. It's not a good environment. I want more than that for us.

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I'd move anyway as it could take awhile to get your wife the "Rehabillitation" thing done.

Instate tuition sucks that they want you there for a year.

it took me aabout 3 yrs to feel like this was home.


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I would definitely get yourself to a bigger town or city. Even if you stay in Georgia, a bigger city might help. If you don't stay in Georgia, going somewhere more liberal is definitely your best bet. I currently live in Toronto and am moving to Austin, TX. When I'm down in Austin, things are wonderful-unless we dare to go even to the outskirts. Then things are... not hostile, but I feel like a octopus at an emu convention we stick out so hard. Going to Ikea, even, can be weird for me. In Toronto, no one cares if two ladies are talking about which duvet they might like. We go to the outskirts of Austin and suddenly there are people staring and making multiple passes to make sure they really heard us right.

We'll definitely be leaving the south as soon as it's career-feasible for my wife, but Austin proper is better than most of the south would be. Getting yourself to a larger town with a couple of universities would help a lot, I think.


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Personally I'd move somewhere with more options as well then go up to Canada if that's what you guys want to do. Where you are sounds a lot like where my husband grew up. He knows people, not just family, that will live their whole lives not going further than 30 mins from the place they're born. It's why he joined the military and got the heck outta dodge. He refused to move back there too after leaving the military and instead came to Colorado. (which incidentally looks a lot like Alberta. LOL) Even his brother left. His best friend did pretty much the same thing and no matter how much his wife complains, he refuses to move closer to where they grew up.

I love BC, not because my family is there, but because I love the province. We'd both like to retire there one day. But it's so expensive to live there it's scary!

Just remember immigrating to Canada can take a lot more time than immigrating to the USA. Your wife will need an FBI clearance and it can take quite a while to get so if you do want to go up there, doing her rehabilitation and getting that clearance (likely in that order) will be some of the steps you need to take. But first, I think you'll both be happier to move somewhere that at the very least respects the fact you two are married.


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I know Canada is expensive, but I survived living in Vancouver supporting myself as soon as I graduated, and I managed. With two incomes, we'd both be in even better shape.

I also have some inheritence money coming in, which could give us a down payment for a condo and such. The issue is getting to Canada or close right now, it's all a waiting game.


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Go where you can be happy and comfortable together. Home is where your heart is, right? As long as you are together and comfortable. I can't imagine being a same sex couple living most places in the States never mind down south somewhere. Not sure where you are or why you're in that particular area but it sure sounds like you need to take another leap of faith and get on the move. Somewhere more liberal as mentioned above. Somewhere that your wife can do what she needs to do in order to be eligible to immigrate to Canada. The DUI thing is so extreme in my opinion but there's nothing we can do about it.

I live in the Cleveland area which is quite liberal. BUT I live in a tiny town. So for me it has been hard to adjust in my own way. Toronto to Small Town Ohio was hard but in a different way than what you are faced with. I'm a 40 year old white chick with a 40 year old white husband, 2 kids, 2 dogs and a house. We own our house and run our own business. BORING and not hard to make it work. But when I look around at the small town, where everyone knows everyone's business, I can't imagine being anything exceptional here and not being frustrated all the time. I'm not sure I'm wording it well but I think you know what I'm trying to say. I hope.

You and your wife sound like you're in a hard spot right now. I think your mindset of getting to a new place sounds good. I just wonder if you could find somewhere more liberal to live. Do what is needed for her to be able to go to Canada eventually, BUT stick around here so you can still get your citizenship in a couple years if that's what your plan was? Then you will have more freedom later in either direction, depending on your wants and needs at that time.

I wish you much luck and hope you can both find a place that fulfills your wants and desires!


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