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My fiance and I will be using different types of evidence of ongoing relationship such as:

  • Skype logs
  • Western Union Emails - showing money sent to beneficiary.
  • Gift receipt emails - showing gifts such as flowers sent to beneficiary.
  • Facebook Relationship page. (shows when we became friends on FB)
  • Facebook Engagement Announcement.

And of course the Met in Person evidence used with the original I-129f application, (I only visited her once) - Photos, Passport stamp(s), Hotel Receipts, Flight Receipt, Itinerary, etc.

We also want to use Facebook messages, but we have over 65,000 messages for the past year. Not all of them are actual messages, they contain stickers as well. It would be very difficult to sift through these 65,000 messages, but there is an app page on Facebook that shows the total message count of the people you message with.

My question is, would it be sufficient enough to include a copy of the page with just the message count as evidence of an ongoing relationship instead of a log of the actual messages?

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Service Center : Texas Service Center

Consulate : Bolivia

I-129F Sent : 2014-08-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2014-08-14

I-129F NOA2 : 2015-02-20

I-129F NOA2 hard copy recieved: 2015-03-02

USCIS to NVC: 2015-03-02

NVC Received : 2015-03-10

NVC Left : 2015-03-31

Consulate Received : 2015-04-06

Packet 4 Received : 2015-04-09

Interview Date : 2015-04-30

2nd Interview Date : 2015-05-04

Interview Result :

Visa Received :

Estimates/Stats : Your I-129f was approved in 190 days from your NOA1 date.[/b][/color]

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Hi, I am in a similar situation. However our messages go back five years. We chat every single day so you can imagine how many thousands of messages we have.

My plan is to take a random sample from over the years. Maybe a hundred pages or so. I don't want to arrive at the interview with no evidence but I cannot take all of it and I don't really want anyone to read ALL of it - some of our conversations are private lol.

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My fiance and I will be using different types of evidence of ongoing relationship such as:

  • Skype logs
  • Western Union Emails - showing money sent to beneficiary.
  • Gift receipt emails - showing gifts such as flowers sent to beneficiary.
  • Facebook Relationship page. (shows when we became friends on FB)
  • Facebook Engagement Announcement.

And of course the Met in Person evidence used with the original I-129f application, (I only visited her once) - Photos, Passport stamp(s), Hotel Receipts, Flight Receipt, Itinerary, etc.

We also want to use Facebook messages, but we have over 65,000 messages for the past year. Not all of them are actual messages, they contain stickers as well. It would be very difficult to sift through these 65,000 messages, but there is an app page on Facebook that shows the total message count of the people you message with.

My question is, would it be sufficient enough to include a copy of the page with just the message count as evidence of an ongoing relationship instead of a log of the actual messages?

Hi,

What is the app called that counts the number of messages in FB?

Also, how are you gathering the skype logs? I was trying to find a way to get historicals of the hours or home many time have I spoken to my Fiance, by no results so far.

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My fiance and I will be using different types of evidence of ongoing relationship such as:

  • Skype logs
  • Western Union Emails - showing money sent to beneficiary.
  • Gift receipt emails - showing gifts such as flowers sent to beneficiary.
  • Facebook Relationship page. (shows when we became friends on FB)
  • Facebook Engagement Announcement.
And of course the Met in Person evidence used with the original I-129f application, (I only visited her once) - Photos, Passport stamp(s), Hotel Receipts, Flight Receipt, Itinerary, etc.

We also want to use Facebook messages, but we have over 65,000 messages for the past year. Not all of them are actual messages, they contain stickers as well. It would be very difficult to sift through these 65,000 messages, but there is an app page on Facebook that shows the total message count of the people you message with.

My question is, would it be sufficient enough to include a copy of the page with just the message count as evidence of an ongoing relationship instead of a log of the actual messages?

I remember reading somewhere when I was preparing our petition last year that they don't need to know the content of the messages; just the frequency to establish there is an ongoing relationship.

Our Facebook chat log was in excess of 3,000 pages, so we cut it down to 30 pages from different time periods. We left the content in (because we thought, however deluded, that that would make us seem super serious about our intentions).

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Hi,

What is the app called that counts the number of messages in FB?

Also, how are you gathering the skype logs? I was trying to find a way to get historicals of the hours or home many time have I spoken to my Fiance, by no results so far.

There are two them named:

  1. Message Count
  2. Message Counter

Just type them into the FB search box at the top of the page, you will see them listed.

As for Skype, I can't tell you for sure as this moment because I don't have access to that computer right now, but if someone else doesnt' answer i will tell you how later tonight when I have access to it.

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Service Center : Texas Service Center

Consulate : Bolivia

I-129F Sent : 2014-08-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2014-08-14

I-129F NOA2 : 2015-02-20

I-129F NOA2 hard copy recieved: 2015-03-02

USCIS to NVC: 2015-03-02

NVC Received : 2015-03-10

NVC Left : 2015-03-31

Consulate Received : 2015-04-06

Packet 4 Received : 2015-04-09

Interview Date : 2015-04-30

2nd Interview Date : 2015-05-04

Interview Result :

Visa Received :

Estimates/Stats : Your I-129f was approved in 190 days from your NOA1 date.[/b][/color]

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I remember reading somewhere when I was preparing our petition last year that they don't need to know the content of the messages; just the frequency to establish there is an ongoing relationship.

Our Facebook chat log was in excess of 3,000 pages, so we cut it down to 30 pages from different time periods. We left the content in (because we thought, however deluded, that that would make us seem super serious about our intentions).

So, in your opinion, do you think it would be ok to use a copy of just the message count page?


Service Center : Texas Service Center

Consulate : Bolivia

I-129F Sent : 2014-08-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2014-08-14

I-129F NOA2 : 2015-02-20

I-129F NOA2 hard copy recieved: 2015-03-02

USCIS to NVC: 2015-03-02

NVC Received : 2015-03-10

NVC Left : 2015-03-31

Consulate Received : 2015-04-06

Packet 4 Received : 2015-04-09

Interview Date : 2015-04-30

2nd Interview Date : 2015-05-04

Interview Result :

Visa Received :

Estimates/Stats : Your I-129f was approved in 190 days from your NOA1 date.[/b][/color]

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I remember reading somewhere when I was preparing our petition last year that they don't need to know the content of the messages; just the frequency to establish there is an ongoing relationship.

Our Facebook chat log was in excess of 3,000 pages, so we cut it down to 30 pages from different time periods. We left the content in (because we thought, however deluded, that that would make us seem super serious about our intentions).

I also don't want to "black out" comments, it looks like one is trying hiding something.

Did you just pick like one or two days from each month?

So, in your opinion, do you think it would be ok to use a copy of just the message count page?

Rather go with too much info than too little - I would print out some of your conversations.

I didn't know about this app myself until you mentioned it - will the embassy/consulate accept the results as accurate?

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So, in your opinion, do you think it would be ok to use a copy of just the message count page?

In my personal opinion, no, but please bear in mind that I am very overly cautious (at least as far as this process is concerned).

The reason I don't think so is because although it displays a high number of messages, it doesn't establish the frequency of the messages over a specific time period - thus proving an ongoing, established relationship. I know it would be unfeasible to send tens of thousands of messages over a very short period of time, but it wouldn't be impossible. I chose portions of conversation from each month of our relationship over a two year period to demonstrate the length of time we had been speaking and involved with each other.


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So, in your opinion, do you think it would be ok to use a copy of just the message count page?

No, print the actual messages.


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I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

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I also don't want to "black out" comments, it looks like one is trying hiding something.

Did you just pick like one or two days from each month?

Rather go with too much info than too little - I would print out some of your conversations.

I didn't know about this app myself until you mentioned it - will the embassy/consulate accept the results as accurate?

Exactly, a couple of pages from each month, highlights from when one of us achieved something, that sort of thing. I wasn't really bothered though about what they saw in terms of the content, considering that you essentially waive the right to privacy when you initiate the process!


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in my opinion chat logs were the most difficult part of the entire process.. simply put, if i were to print out the entire downloaded fb chat logs my fiancee and i have it totalled to about 2,600 pages

YEP

so what i did was take snippets that show the progression of the rel almost monthly/by year/etc

for example: snippets from April 2011, June 2011, July 2011, etc etc up to present

that's what I did for our submission and yes it was extremely exhausting


March 20, 2018 = Biometrics Appt  (i797-C, Notice of Action .. noa1?)

January 30, 2018 = Received I-757 NOA for i-751 petition

January 26, 2018 = Mailed I-751 Removal of Conditions to Vermont Service Center

March 30, 2016 = AOS Approved on the same day!!! YES THANK YOU JESUS!!

March 30, 2016 = Adjustment of Status interview..

December 3, 2015 = Employment Auth & Travel Permit Approved

September 24, 2015 = Filed for Adjustment of Status, Employment Auth, Travel Permit

August 27, 2015 = Married !!!!!!!

July 16, 2015 = CEAC status ISSUED!!! :) OH YES BABY!!! Flight Book to NYC on August 8!!!

July 2, 2015 = Returned to Embassy for fingerprints and brought Passport and 221G documents -- PASSED!!

June 21, 2015 = K-1 Interview .. issued a 221G and was told to come back to do fingerprints

June 16, 2015 = Interview Date from Riyadh Embassy!!! :D Received Packet 4

March 22, 2015 = Readyness Documents Delivered!! yay!

March 18, 2015 = Readyness Documents mailed to Riyadh Embassy.

March 17, 2015 = Visa MRV Fee Shows up on ustraveldocs.com/sa/ (Last step for the K-1 Packet!!)

March 14, 2015 = Visa MRV Fee Paid (1,0007 sar)

March 05, 2015 = K-1 Required Documents (Affidavit of Support, etc) received by fiancee in Riyadh!!! (that quick?! WOW!)

March 02, 2015 = Mailed K-1 Required Documents (Affidavit of Support, etc) to Riyadh via FedEx

February 20, 2015 = NVC Approval Letter Received! (lol a week after Riyadh Embassy contacted us)

= Riyadh Embassy EMAILS the "Packet 3" notification :) game on! and yes, they reference your Case #

February 16, 2015 = Case # Received from RIYADH EMBASSY!! Yup! Didn't call NVC or hear anything but damn that FAST!

February 06, 2015 = NVC received I-129F package (called them, no case # yet)

January 30, 2015 = Hardcopy of NOA2 received

January 30, 2015 = USCIS Status Change! Application Mailed to Visa Center. (so it took a week for TSC to mail it to NVC)

January 23, 2015 = NOA 2 Case Approval by USCIS Website and Email!!!!!

December 24, 2014 = Hardcopy NOA1 received

December 22, 2014 = NOA 1 Receipt TSC (NO!! not the hellhole that is TSC) :(

December 18, 2014 = I-129F submitted

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I was also curious about this chat logs, if the chat conversation is not in English do you have to translate or another language is fine.? the chats that I have are mixed which has some works in English and some my country language.

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Thank you everyone for your advice.....I'll get to compiling the messages, a few from each month...thanks again!


Service Center : Texas Service Center

Consulate : Bolivia

I-129F Sent : 2014-08-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2014-08-14

I-129F NOA2 : 2015-02-20

I-129F NOA2 hard copy recieved: 2015-03-02

USCIS to NVC: 2015-03-02

NVC Received : 2015-03-10

NVC Left : 2015-03-31

Consulate Received : 2015-04-06

Packet 4 Received : 2015-04-09

Interview Date : 2015-04-30

2nd Interview Date : 2015-05-04

Interview Result :

Visa Received :

Estimates/Stats : Your I-129f was approved in 190 days from your NOA1 date.[/b][/color]

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