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Update: NOA1 Received so now I am wondering if the form actually made its way in the packet.

Would it be accepted if the signature page wasn't in there and denied later?

We are just so paranoid about it possibly being denied after months of waiting as we have read stories like that here on VJ.

Thanks guys!

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Yeah...folks checking documents after sending it off and finding issues with it

seems to happen more frequently...evidenced by number of similar postings on VJ.

Let that be a good reminder to all for future processing.

That said, check being cashed is a good sign so hopefully all of it made it just fine.

If not you will find out one way or the other (whether it'll get returned or RFE-ed),

so at this point, I would just wait and see. In the worst case, you will lose some

processing time, which you can recover. So don't sweat over this too much right now.

10-04-2013 We met online
11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

06-16-2014 NVC creates case with GUZ### number

06-19-2014 NVC sends case sent to Guangzhou, China
06-24-2014 Received packet 3 express mail from embassy
06-25-2014 Completed DS-160 and paid K1 visa fee

06-26-2014 Mailed packet 3 response back to Embassy

06-26-2014 Requested police certificate from Russian embassy

07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

07-17-2014 Picked up Russian police certificate

07-25-2014 Fiancee medical exam (received MMR & Varicella, but they missed required TD shot)

07-31-2014 Picked up medical exam reports

08-01-2014 Request (correct) birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service (GongZhengChu)

08-06-2014 Picked up birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service

08-14-2014 Passed Interview Guangzhou embassy

09-01-2014 Received passport, visa, & sealed envelope

09-13-2014 POE

09-17-2014 Went to CBP office to get (US entry) I-94 updated correctly

09-18-2014 Applied for Social Security Card
09-19-2014 Applied for Marriage License (via online)
09-25-2014 Received Social Security Card
09-30-2014 Picked up Marriage License
10-09-2014 Marriage by Justice of Peace
10-09-2014 Got Certified Marriage Certificate Copies
10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
02-17-2015 EAD and AP is approved
02-23-2015 Received AP is approval letter
02-25-2015 Received EAD/AP combo card (expires 02/16/2016)
02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
04-05-2015 Vision test for learner's permit
04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
04-10-2015 Passed Driver Learner's Permit
04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
08-27-2015 Green Card approved
08-31-2015 Received Green Card "Welcome Notice Was Mailed" letter
09-05-2015 Received Green card
10-26-2015 Passed Driver's License Road Test (on 3rd attempt)
11-03-2015 Received Driver's License (expires 02/16/2022)
11-06-2015 Applied to remove conditional work remark on SS card
11-23-2015 Received updated Social Security Card.
- - - - - - - - - - Pending Future Processing - - - - - - - - - -
05-27-2017 File 10 Year Green Card
08-27-2017 2 Year Green Card Expires
05-27-2018 File USC

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Filed: Country: Australia
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Yeah...folks checking documents after sending it off and finding issues with it

seems to happen more frequently...evidenced by number of similar postings on VJ.

Let that be a good reminder to all for future processing.

That said, check being cashed is a good sign so hopefully all of it made it just fine.

If not you will find out one way or the other (whether it'll get returned or RFE-ed),

so at this point, I would just wait and see. In the worst case, you will lose some

processing time, which you can recover. So don't sweat over this too much right now.

Well, I received the acceptance so I am not sure if it would be returned now that its been accepted or just denied?

It looks like they would have rejected it straight away and sent it back as opposed to accepting it if the forms werent actually in there.

Correct me, if my assumptions are wrong.

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Meaning that it wasn't rejected though, right?

It means "hey, it arrived"--no one has looked at the file to determine if they're going to approve, reject or ask for follow up questions yet. Right now your application is "standing in line" waiting for someone to read it and check for completeness and make a decision (if you're based in DC like your local office suggests, then the service center that is handling your paperwork's line is currently 7 months long). They almost certainly (like 99.9% sure) will give you an RFE (Request for Evidence) asking for you to send the signature page, if you did indeed forget it. RFE is not a rejection but it adds a week or two to the timeframe. I don't think that forgetting to send the signature page turns into a rejection.

I realized that I left a check-box blank. What I did was: (1) print out the page with the missing check-box and re-do that page (2) take a photocopy of my NOA1 (it'll arrive in the mail in a week or two for you) (3) write a letter explaining what happened, give my receipt number and mention the barcode on the NOA1, and ask if it is possible to add this to my file. I mailed it to the service center handling my case. I haven't heard anything and I have NO idea if this will work or not. It just is worth a shot because why not? Could save two weeks later on.

Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

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Filed: Country: Australia
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It means "hey, it arrived"--no one has looked at the file to determine if they're going to approve, reject or ask for follow up questions yet. Right now your application is "standing in line" waiting for someone to read it and check for completeness and make a decision (if you're based in DC like your local office suggests, then the service center that is handling your paperwork's line is currently 7 months long). They almost certainly (like 99.9% sure) will give you an RFE (Request for Evidence) asking for you to send the signature page, if you did indeed forget it. RFE is not a rejection but it adds a week or two to the timeframe. I don't think that forgetting to send the signature page turns into a rejection.

I realized that I left a check-box blank. What I did was: (1) print out the page with the missing check-box and re-do that page (2) take a photocopy of my NOA1 (it'll arrive in the mail in a week or two for you) (3) write a letter explaining what happened, give my receipt number and mention the barcode on the NOA1, and ask if it is possible to add this to my file. I mailed it to the service center handling my case. I haven't heard anything and I have NO idea if this will work or not. It just is worth a shot because why not? Could save two weeks later on.

Thank you for your response. It's strange because other posts I have read said they forgot a signature and the entire package was sent back with no NOA1 at all and that if it did not include the required documents then you would get an automatic rejection and no NOA1. Then on the other hand, people have said that they have had their applications accepted and then denied months later for missing documents.

I just don't want to be waiting months and then get a denial because of this possible mistake!

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Thank you for your response. It's strange because other posts I have read said they forgot a signature and the entire package was sent back with no NOA1 at all and that if it did not include the required documents then you would get an automatic rejection and no NOA1. Then on the other hand, people have said that they have had their applications accepted and then denied months later for missing documents.

I just don't want to be waiting months and then get a denial because of this possible mistake!

Everyone receives a NOA1... it just confirms they have received your packet/payment and will begin processing it. If you forget to sign something, submit something that they want they will send you a RFE letter stating what to resubmit/next steps before you can get approved (noa2) as mentioned.

K1 Visa Process:

12/6/14 - I129F petition sent to the USCIS lockbox via USPS Priority mail / 12/10/14 - Petition received @ USCIS lockbox / 12/15/14 - NOA1 Email and text message received

12/22/14 - NOA1 hard copy received / 1/2/15 - NOA2 Email received / 1/13/15 - NOA2 hard copy received

1/26/15 - NVC Mailed to embassy / 1/29/15 - Embassy received package / 2/25/15 - packet 3 received

2/26/15 - packet 3 mailed via POS Express / 3/10/15 - packet 4 received / 3/23/15 - Medical Exam

4/7/15 - Interview Date - APPROVED! :joy:/ 4/30/15 - POE @ LAX / 5/5/15 - Applied for SSN card

5/11/15 - Received SSN card / 7/14/15 - Married! / 7/29/15 - Marriage license/Certificate received

AOS Journey:

10/5/2015 - AOS packet mailed via USPS Priorty to Chicago Lock box / 10/7/2015 - Packet received at USCIS Chicago locked box

10/14/2015 - Received 3 NOA1 confirmation emails (I-485, I-131, I-765) / 10/19/2015 - Hard copies of NOA1 received (I-485, I-131, I-765)

10/23/2015 - Biometrics appointment letter received for 11/5 / 10/28/2015 - RFE text/email received for I-485

11/2/2015 - Walk in biometrics completed / 11/2/2015 - RFE hard copy received

11/7/2015 - RFE Responded via USPS Priority / 11/9/2015 - RFE Received by USCIS

11/12/2015 - RFE text/email NOA received / 12/2/2015 - AOS interview text/email received / 12/4/2015 - AOS Interview hard copy received

12/21/2015 - EAD/AP NOA 1 text/email approval received / 12/24/2015 - Combo Card received in mail via USPS Priortity Mail / 12/26/2015 EAD/AP NOA1 Hard copy received

1/8/2016 - AOS Interview scheduled (rescheduled)

2/22/2016 - AOS Interview rescheduled date

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Everyone receives a NOA1... it just confirms they have received your packet/payment and will begin processing it. If you forget to sign something, submit something that they want they will send you a RFE letter stating what to resubmit/next steps before you can get approved (noa2) as mentioned.

Yea, I know everyone receives an NOA1 but from reading other posts regarding the signature page, the application is often rejected for missing signatures and mailed back.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Well, I received the acceptance so I am not sure if it would be returned now that its been accepted or just denied?

It looks like they would have rejected it straight away and sent it back as opposed to accepting it if the forms werent actually in there.

Correct me, if my assumptions are wrong.

If you were going to receive an RFE this wouldn't be sent until they look over the package which would be post getting the NOA1 as this is merely to tell you that they've received everything and it's waiting to be processed. Unfortunately because you're being processed at TSC you will mostly likely have quite a number of months to wait until receiving either the RFE or your NOA2 if you have sent away all the right forms. On the up side, if you do receive an RFE it means they're looking at your case and once you send back all the correct forms you should, in theory, get your NOA2 shortly after.

Hope this is of some help, good luck!

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Thank you for your response. It's strange because other posts I have read said they forgot a signature and the entire package was sent back with no NOA1 at all and that if it did not include the required documents then you would get an automatic rejection and no NOA1. Then on the other hand, people have said that they have had their applications accepted and then denied months later for missing documents.

I just don't want to be waiting months and then get a denial because of this possible mistake!

Ah I see. I didn't know that. Seems that they must check for a signature before NOA1. Did any of the rejections/RFEs you read about happen because of a signature page? I would be inclined to think that if they didn't send it back right away, theneed you must have signed it.

Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

!

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Filed: Country: Australia
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If you were going to receive an RFE this wouldn't be sent until they look over the package which would be post getting the NOA1 as this is merely to tell you that they've received everything and it's waiting to be processed. Unfortunately because you're being processed at TSC you will mostly likely have quite a number of months to wait until receiving either the RFE or your NOA2 if you have sent away all the right forms. On the up side, if you do receive an RFE it means they're looking at your case and once you send back all the correct forms you should, in theory, get your NOA2 shortly after.

Hope this is of some help, good luck!

Thanks! I guess my main concern was that the application would just be flat out denied and I wouldn't even get and RFE and the chance to send in the signed page or missing fiance letter of intent.

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