Why do Spouses wait longer than Fiances?

[yuna628 9,527]

I don't need to review threads. Intent to get married somewhere is not intent to immigrate there. THAT is the point I am trying to make. That's all.

That's not how the US views intent to marry.

Again unless something changes in immigration law that view will continue and K-1 visas will be needed.

[ZA_35 48]

That's not how the US views intent to marry.

Again unless something changes in immigration law that view will continue and K-1 visas will be needed.

So please explain to me why my I-130 was APPROVED and the NVC has case completed. I got married in the US, came home and filed for I-130. My INTENT was never to stay in the US after I got married.

Upthread you posted about "we do things the right way". Well so have I lady.

Edited March 18, 2015 by ZA_35

[Pitaya 2,576]

I don't need to review threads. Intent to get married somewhere is not intent to immigrate there. THAT is the point I am trying to make. That's all.

Okay, I will qualify/clarify by initial sentence. It all depends on your intent, as determined by the appropriate US government official during an interview at a US embassy/consulate, or at a US POE.

And you are correct, that's all. I am done with this pedantic exercise.

Edited March 18, 2015 by A&B

[yuna628 9,527]

So please explain to me why my I-130 was APPROVED and the NVC has case completed. I got married in the US, came home and filed for I-130. My INTENT was never to stay in the US after I got married.

Upthread you posted about "we do things the right way". Well so have I lady.

And? Look, your tone is hostile if not bordering on abusive.

I am not accusing you of doing things the wrong way or the right way, but you can keep assuming that.

Your assumption is that anyone can get a B1/B2 which is false, along with a few other things which I could go into detail here specifically regarding the VWP and ways to marry in the US of which I cannot due to the TOS of this website. I refuse to get into further inflammatory discussion with you on a subject which you seek to be hostile toward.

The subject of this thread was why do spouses wait longer than fiancés. The USCIS holds the answers to that. I think we can all be adults and formulate our opinions on why. As for me, I'm bowing out of this thread because there's no sense in continuing nonsense. Have fun ya'll.

[Yanirose 64]

You could technically marry somewhere else in Europe and be honest about your intentions at entry. I had no problem with my British passport entering the Schengen and explicitly telling the IO to stamp my passport because the Danish government required proof of date of entry to get married.

They can't really deny you, but I get that people would want to marry in one country or the other.

That's because it was within EEA as mentioned earlier. I know for fact if you're an EU or EEA (Norway & Swiss) there're no way you can enter the UK/ and tell the IO your intention of getting married. As you know any EEA and EU can work and have the right to live in the UK so they wouldn't care if you was getting married.

Now am not sure of other European countries rules and regulations but I also do know that you have to register with your local register before getting married as well as providing Identification and proof of address.

[mallafri76 1,012]

you are barred from marrying on the VWP (which of course would still require AOSing).

You can enter the US under the VWP and get married. That's perfectly legal.

[ZA_35 48]

You can enter the US under the VWP and get married. That's perfectly legal.

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. A tourist can get married in the US then leave and apply for a Spousal Visa.

[Yanirose 64]

You can enter the US under the VWP and get married. That's perfectly legal.

No it is not legal at all, I cannot enter the US under the VWP and tell the IO I am here to my marry my fiancé. Forget fiancé the min you say you have a significant other who is a US citizen they'll ask you more questions to find out what your intentions are.

Now however you can lie to the IO and use VWP and then get married but please don't say that's legal. If it was I think I-129F wouldn't exist.

[nitsirk7562 82]

I disagree that they should do away with K-1's. My husband and I chose the K-1 because I didn't want to marry him, go home, and be separated from my new husband for a year. Sure, it's equally difficult to be away from a loved one whether you're married or not. But something about having to be separated and not able to be true "newlyweds" just didn't sit well with me. They should absolutely make both the i-130 and i-129f process faster. It's insane how long people have to be apart from their partners/family.

[Ban Hammer 12,829]

vj moderation was here again.

post respectfully as this thread is on the radar screen.

[slronhill 61]

That's because it was within EEA as mentioned earlier. I know for fact if you're an EU or EEA (Norway & Swiss) there're no way you can enter the UK/ and tell the IO your intention of getting married. As you know any EEA and EU can work and have the right to live in the UK so they wouldn't care if you was getting married.

Now am not sure of other European countries rules and regulations but I also do know that you have to register with your local register before getting married as well as providing Identification and proof of address.

For my region yes, you also have to register 30 days prior the wedding and provide proof of address here, who are you staying with etc...

[Shauneg 762]

No it is not legal at all, I cannot enter the US under the VWP and tell the IO I am here to my marry my fiancé. Forget fiancé the min you say you have a significant other who is a US citizen they'll ask you more questions to find out what your intentions are.

Now however you can lie to the IO and use VWP and then get married but please don't say that's legal. If it was I think I-129F wouldn't exist.

I think there is a fine line. You can but you'd have to prove intention to go back home. How many people would be able to prove ties at home to leave? So not inherently illegal not likely to be allowed if true intent was known. I would also expect those that stay and aos come under great scrutiny on true intentions....especially if they marry within a few weeks of coming....That reeks of visa fraud. The only actually illegal thing is to come here with the intent of getting married and aos here. Marrying and leaving I don't see as illegal but it's riding the pine. I'm no expert though, just what I've seen.

[mattawara 19]

Yes and no. You could do it, but the IO will tell you absolutely no way. It all comes down to intent. If you come to the US with the intent to marry on the VWP you can get in trouble. But if you come to the US with the intent to not marry, but a few days later decide to, *wink wink nudge nudge* they'll kind of look the other way most of the time. But that person will still have to stay and adjust or go back home. Since most don't want to go back home and be away from their new spouse, you can see why it can appeal to get around the K1 paperwork. For us, we just want to do things the right way ya know?

Btw, I once had a friend refused from the UK because his intent was simply to propose to his lady. Certainly not even to marry or stay (which they wouldn't allow you to do anyway.) It's a joke.

Not true. I entered in the VWP and married. Told the IO exactly what the plan was. HOWEVER the plan was to marry and then leave within the time of the VWP, showed tickets out of the states and they were comfortable enough... But, additionally I'm on a NZ passport so life is a little easier.

further data point - we did leave, moved to Australia, and did the whole IR-1 tango, and my POE is in a week.

Edited March 18, 2015 by mattawara

[Shauneg 762]

Not true. I entered in the VWP and married. Told the IO exactly what the plan was. HOWEVER the plan was to marry and then leave within the time of the VWP, showed tickets out of the states and they were comfortable enough... But, additionally I'm on a NZ passport so life is a little easier.

further data point - we did leave, moved to Australia, and did the whole IR-1 tango, and my POE is in a week.

Congrats. Edited March 18, 2015 by Shauneg

[ZA_35 48]

Not true. I entered in the VWP and married. Told the IO exactly what the plan was. HOWEVER the plan was to marry and then leave within the time of the VWP, showed tickets out of the states and they were comfortable enough... But, additionally I'm on a NZ passport so life is a little easier.

further data point - we did leave, moved to Australia, and did the whole IR-1 tango, and my POE is in a week.

THANK YOU. It is not FRAUD like some people are saying. Your intention was always to return home, just as mine was. I had NO intent to simply stay after the wedding.