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You have to wait until the visa is denied to submit the waiver. An I-601 waiver is not just a form. It is a packet which proves it would be an extreme hardship for you, the USC, to not have your fiancé immigrate to the US and why you cannot move to live with him. You need to provide specific reasons and supporting evidence.

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Mostly true, he was an innocent kid when he was taken to the US. When he turned 18 he was responsible for his own actions.

Soul Froosh
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So he was supposed to be self aware of his situation, having been schooled and given a home somewhere by his parents in a state of innocence, to suddenly take charge of the situation and deport himsel

Soul Froosh
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Knowing he was "illegal" is one thing (I'm not denying that), but being able to get on a plane at the age of 18 (cost?) and crash-landing somewhere with no home (?) is another. As you mentioned in a

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Waivers are complicated. Do not attempt one on your own.

It is WAY more than a simple form to fill out. Head over to immigrate2us.net and see what they say about waivers.

Good luck

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Fill out?

Prepare would be a better term.

lel mate. Keep correcting them - this place is hilarious.

OP, this forum can sometimes make a mountain out of a molehill.

USCIS aren't always heartless bastards. He was an innocent kid with no say in where he lived.

Get some professional legal advice.

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USCIS aren't always heartless bastards. He was an innocent kid with no say in where he lived.

Get some professional legal advice.

Mostly true, he was an innocent kid when he was taken to the US.

When he turned 18 he was responsible for his own actions.

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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Mostly true, he was an innocent kid when he was taken to the US.

When he turned 18 he was responsible for his own actions.

So he was supposed to be self aware of his situation, having been schooled and given a home somewhere by his parents in a state of innocence, to suddenly take charge of the situation and deport himself, because he "turned 18"?

Kids (or even the general public) aren't even aware of visa/immigration situations. A child will always take his life w/ parents as his home, without conditions.

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Why he chose to do it is irrelevant. US Law says he has a 10 year ban. The officer at the embassy doing his interview does not have the authority to ignore US Law or to "bend the rules".

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Kids (or even the general public) aren't even aware of visa/immigration situations. A child will always take his life w/ parents as his home, without conditions.

I guess that is why they get a pass until they turn 18 and are an adult.

Similar with the criminal system.

Bearing in mind he could not have been doing things many 18 year old's do, drive, get a job then I think he knew.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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So he was supposed to be self aware of his situation, having been schooled and given a home somewhere by his parents in a state of innocence, to suddenly take charge of the situation and deport himself, because he "turned 18"?

Kids (or even the general public) aren't even aware of visa/immigration situations. A child will always take his life w/ parents as his home, without conditions.

What do you propose the appropriate age to be then ? 21 ? 33 ? 70 ? Or just as soon as one moves out of parent's house ?

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Read up on waivers... He will fall under the bans but with the appropriate waiver,it can be overcome...

10/14/2000 - Met Aboard a Cruise ship

06/14/2003 - Married Savona Italy

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03/21/2009 - I-130 Mailed to Chicago lockbox

11-30-09: GOT GREEN CARD in mail!!!!!!

Citizenship Process;

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3/11/2013: interview.. Approved

4/4/2013. : Oath! Now a U.S. citizen!

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What do you propose the appropriate age to be then ? 21 ? 33 ? 70 ? Or just as soon as one moves out of parent's house ?

lel, you guys...

Sometimes I wonder if I'm talking to a bunch of border control officers on their lunch breaks.

Well actually in some cases someone above 18 but below 21 is still classed as a "minor" (in the context of some laws, ie alcohol)

Although I wasn't debating age. My point was about a person conditioned to believe his home is his home from a younger age.

The fact that he did eventually leave at a relatively young age might help his case. A lawyer could oversee some affidavits of support for him as proof of him leaving when he was able, to support their K-1 application.

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The need for an I-601 waiver is cut and dried. It will be needed since he overstayed no matter the reason unless it was some sort of emergency like 9/11 where there were no flights. Now she will have to prove that is an extreme hardship to her if he is not permitted to immigrate AND that she cannot go live in his or another country with him.

In the US the day you turn 18 you become an adult. You and no one else are responsible for your actions. Committing a crime because you didn't know better is not an excuse. Not knowing the law is not an excuse. My mother told me.......is not an excuse. You are an adult at 18 and you have to accept responsibility for your actions.

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lel, you guys...

Sometimes I wonder if I'm talking to a bunch of border control officers on their lunch breaks.

Well actually in some cases someone above 18 but below 21 is still classed as a "minor" (in the context of some laws, ie alcohol)

Although I wasn't debating age. My point was about a person conditioned to believe his home is his home from a younger age.

The fact that he did eventually leave at a relatively young age might help his case. A lawyer could oversee some affidavits of support for him as proof of him leaving when he was able, to support their K-1 application.

Simple overstay is no biggie anyway, you still have to do it properly.

26 is the age for Obamacare.

OP did say he left at 19 to go back to his parents suggesting they had already left.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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http://immigrate2us.net/forum/showthread.php?91329-Immigration-Lawyers-Recommended-by-I2US-Members

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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