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Elena's models and question 35a on I-129F

#1 TheFoxxy

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:16 PM

What do you do if your fiancé never signed anything for her IMBRA rights and this questions requires a copy of it now on the updated I-129F form?

Does EM count as IMB? Can we say we met her and answer no it's not an IMB? Or answer yes list the address and not this form?

Any help or guidance is really appreciated, i feel like no one else has had to face this issue yet. Thank you in advance
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#2 Darnell

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:18 PM

Many 'meet up' websites have an IMBRA statement.

Does EM have an IMBRA statement on it's website somewhere? If so, please read it.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:32 PM

It does not say anything that answers my questions, or I wouldn't have asked here. It states what IMBRA is and links a couple of sites but nothing specifically stating it is IMBRA or anything about obtaining a signed consent form.

I emailed EM as well but no response yet. Trying to get some sort of guidance here if at all possible. I am a smart guy and researched everything until I was forced to create a thread about it. Thanks
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:36 PM

My husband and I met at Catholicmatch.com...before we filed the I-129f I emailed the administrator of Catholicmatch.com if such site falls under IMBRA or not...they emailed me back saying no they do not fall under IMBRA ..I printed the email from Catholicmatch.com and attached it to my I-129f, specifically right after the supplement of the circumstances of how my fiancé and I met...I hope this can help you.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:51 PM

Here is an old topic about IMBRA, maybe it will help:

 

http://www.visajourn...arriage-broker/


Edited by Umka36, 11 November 2013 - 03:51 PM.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:46 PM

Thank you for the responses everyone. I guess the question I have boils down to the written consent form for IMBRA.

We don't know how to get this or where to get it or if we need to send it in. I have emailed and called Elena's models and have not heard anything back yet.

Do you think saying we met on EM and putting the URL address is sufficient enough? Or will we get in trouble If we don't include this mysterious consent form that may not exist for us?
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 05:49 PM

I feel like no one knows the answer to this and it seems like an important part of the process that could stop us from getting approved. :(
 

 

Do I need to consult a lawyer?

 


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:10 PM

For anyone else wondering the same thing: I just got an email response back from Elena's Models that said they are not an IMB and that they have no written consent documents for their women.

 

I am going to put that we met on EM but answer No to it being an IMB.

 

 

Thank you everyone who responded and I hope this thread helps people in the future.


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#9 1HappyGuy

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:35 PM

When IMBRA was new there was a lot of discussions regarding this topic.  You should understand the IMBRA is a U.S. law and as such can only affect U.S. based International Marriage Brokers.  Some IMB's out of the country have attempted to adopt IMBRA, but I doubt their international clients are much interested.  I think you are taking the proper approach by stating that the site that created your introduction is not based in America and is not subject to the IMBRA requirements.


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#10 Darnell

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:36 AM

http://www.elenasmod...ress/usalaw.htm

This is NOT the normal IMBRA compliance statement that I've seen on other sites. So, I really don't know what to tell you.

Here is an example of a site with an IMBRA Compliance Statement:
http://www.loveme.co...IMBRA/IMBRA.htm

Edited by Darnell, 12 November 2013 - 12:40 AM.

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#11 SMR

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:15 AM

The key here is whether or not the business is primarily a marriage broker between US citizens or residents and foreign nationals.  Read post 15 in the thread that Umka36 referenced.  It's probably fair to say that EM is focused on international relationships.  However, I wouldn't say that EM is focused particularly on US person with foreign person relationships insofar as there is also focus on men from Europe and elsewhere, not just the US.  IMBRA is poorly written by someone who didn't really understand the internet or international dating, in my opinion.  

 

This is just my opinion.  I don't have personal experience with this and am not a lawyer.


Edited by SMR, 12 November 2013 - 10:16 AM.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 06:47 PM

back in the days when I was on EM I remember seeing that they stated that they are IMB and even the list of documents you have to provide to them in order to comply with IMBRA, but that was long time ago so maybe they changed something now, but they business model seems like IMB even though they do not care if you are from US or Europe


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 07:40 PM

EM is not a "marriage broker",

 

 

We wrote we met on a social media site, listed EM, and said no to IMBRA..

 

it was never brought up and/or mentioned at the interview in Moscow..., we were approved and all went smoothly. :-)


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#14 Turboguy

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 09:27 AM

I think that however you answer this question it isn't going to make a bit of difference.  

 

I met my wife through Elena's but it was ages ago.  When I first joined Elena's with a Platinum membership that allowed you to write as many women as you wanted for free it was before IMBRA and you could just write any lady you wanted.   After IMBRA was passed, at that time, Elena's was trying to comply with IMBRA for the most part.  Basically the men had to fill out a background statement saying they had no criminal record and you could no longer just write any woman.  They would send your background info to any woman you wanted to write and then she would give permission for you to write her.  When I filled out my paperwork I answered that question YES and gave them Elena's Models contact info.   It never came up at any time in the process and was never mentioned during the interview.

 

As things seem to be now, I would agree, just answer the question NO. 


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