Citizenship Denied

[Joseyjava 1]

I have a friend and his citizenship was denied, I really didnlt ask for the details, but he told me when he had his interview to migrate in the US he said that he was not married, but when he applied for his ctizenship he claims they found out he was married before he even get here in the US. and now his greencard is about to expires. what he should do?

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Good, I am glad they discovered his lie. Depending on the details, his whole immigration file was based on fraud (he lied and said he was not married when he was), and they can revoke his Greencard and deport him.

Without the details, no one can help you. No on is going to help cover up fraud, however.

He either was not eligible for his family category by being married (maybe he came in under an unmarried child category), or he used this lie for some other reason.

[sasaqlain 24]

Based on what you said, I think he is beyond help. It's just a matter of time when USCIS will divert their attention to his case and charge him with fraud.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I have a friend and his citizenship was denied, I really didnlt ask for the details, but he told me when he had his interview to migrate in the US he said that he was not married, but when he applied for his ctizenship he claims they found out he was married before he even get here in the US. and now his greencard is about to expires. what he should do?

If his being married would have had no bearing on his immigration process to the US in the eyes of the USCIS, he should be able to renew his green card and remain a LPR, his fault being lying to an immigration officer in the process of obtaining citizenship. A lawyer might be able to help him straighten the record. However, if his marriage abroad should have prevented him from obtaining LPR status, he might consider leaving the country voluntarily before deportation proceedings are brought about. It can get ugly in these cases.

Good luck!

[Harsh_77 716]

First for any help one will need the details without details not much can be done.

Your friend lied on his application… his whole visa was illegal hence his claim to citizenship is void.

Why should there be amnesty or help for someone who lied and tried to cheat the system?

Unfortunately your friend did not listen to right advice and in haste to cut down the waiting time cheated the system for which he is paying now.

[Lansbury 19]

his fault being lying to an immigration officer in the process of obtaining citizenship.

Lying to a Federal Official is a criminal offense in the USA. Making false statements (18 U.S.C. § 1001) is the common name for the United States federal crime laid out in Section 1001 of Title 18 of the United States Code, which generally prohibits lying to or concealing (information) from a federal official by oral affirmation, written statement or mere denial.

I doubt a lawyer can straighten that out.

Edited August 7, 2012 by Lansbury

[JohnR! 5,495]

Lying to a Federal Official is a criminal offense in the USA. Making false statements (18 U.S.C. § 1001) is the common name for the United States federal crime laid out in Section 1001 of Title 18 of the United States Code, which generally prohibits lying to or concealing (information) from a federal official by oral affirmation, written statement or mere denial.

I doubt a lawyer can straighten that out.

Since we don't know what really happened, we can only speculate. It would be unwise to make any calls based on hearsay.

[Que Saudade 284]

Since we don't know what really happened, we can only speculate. It would be unwise to make any calls based on hearsay.

No disrespect towards you Gegel.

It is obvious that the OP is asking for opinion and advise based on the information given. Isn't everything here on VJ hearsay?

2 main points.

1-denied being married in interview to immigrate

2-USCIS finds out he is and has been married prior to date of original interview and has a sworn statement from his previous interview claiming single.

The OP's friend did not claim that he is "not" married and USCIS made a mistake.

This is fairly straight forward.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Que Saudade

[islandgal 74]

I have a friend and his citizenship was denied, I really didnlt ask for the details, but he told me when he had his interview to migrate in the US he said that he was not married, but when he applied for his ctizenship he claims they found out he was married before he even get here in the US. and now his greencard is about to expires. what he should do?

How did he not know he was married?

[missphilly 1]

I have a friend and his citizenship was denied, I really didnlt ask for the details, but he told me when he had his interview to migrate in the US he said that he was not married, but when he applied for his ctizenship he claims they found out he was married before he even get here in the US. and now his greencard is about to expires. what he should do?

Feel sorry for him... Don't try to lie in the USCIS because they will find out... Will he need to do what he got to do before his GC expire. Its too hard to be illegal in the USA.

[arvinb 17]

Gegel is saying that we are not 100% sure whether his visa/greencard was originally given on condition of marriage. While he DID make a false statement when originally asked about prior marriage status, (and this is the part where I say I'm not actually too knowledgeable about the situation) if it was NOT given on condition (i.e. he was going to get visa/LPR through some other avenue, during which they asked about his marriage status), his punishment may not be as severe as automatically being deported. But yes, clearly he may very well be.

No disrespect towards you Gegel.

It is obvious that the OP is asking for opinion and advise based on the information given. Isn't everything here on VJ hearsay?

2 main points.

1-denied being married in interview to immigrate

2-USCIS finds out he is and has been married prior to date of original interview and has a sworn statement from his previous interview claiming single.

The OP's friend did not claim that he is "not" married and USCIS made a mistake.

This is fairly straight forward.

[Americangirl10 1]

No disrespect towards you Gegel.

It is obvious that the OP is asking for opinion and advise based on the information given. Isn't everything here on VJ hearsay?

The answer to this question is NO!

[JohnR! 5,495]

No disrespect towards you Gegel.

It is obvious that the OP is asking for opinion and advise based on the information given. Isn't everything here on VJ hearsay?

2 main points.

1-denied being married in interview to immigrate

2-USCIS finds out he is and has been married prior to date of original interview and has a sworn statement from his previous interview claiming single.

The OP's friend did not claim that he is "not" married and USCIS made a mistake.

This is fairly straight forward.

Don't worry. I don't take any comments as disrespectful and I do see your point as well. What we don't know is the relevance of his marriage in his immigration process during the LPR process. It goes without saying that if he obtained his green card through marriage to a US citizen he is up the creek with no paddle. However, if his marital status represented no deciding factor in that process, he can certainly seek to redress the situation by appealing to our legal system. I do not wish to presume to guarantee any results so much as I wanted to point out that it may be well worth his while to have his day in court over this matter. That is the call to which I referred in my previous post.

On a personal note, I believe we are all here to bounce ideas from each other in a collaborative experience and that is how I took your comments. There is absolutely no disrespect in questioning someone else's point of view and if we all agreed all the time, there would be no edification to anyone.

[Que Saudade 284]

Don't worry. I don't take any comments as disrespectful and I do see your point as well. What we don't know is the relevance of his marriage in his immigration process during the LPR process. It goes without saying that if he obtained his green card through marriage to a US citizen he is up the creek with no paddle. However, if his marital status represented no deciding factor in that process, he can certainly seek to redress the situation by appealing to our legal system. I do not wish to presume to guarantee any results so much as I wanted to point out that it may be well worth his while to have his day in court over this matter. That is the call to which I referred in my previous post.

On a personal note, I believe we are all here to bounce ideas from each other in a collaborative experience and that is how I took your comments. There is absolutely no disrespect in questioning someone else's point of view and if we all agreed all the time, there would be no edification to anyone.

Thanks Gegel for your reply. I concur 100%. But, the law is on the books about lying (or any semantics thereof) to a federal official. The intention of the lie has very little bearing. In essence, perjury has been committed. Even if there are other factors, USCIS has and is calling him out on it.

A "good" lawyer is definitely in order should he even have hopes of getting through this legally.

[Presley 4]

Thanks Gegel for your reply. I concur 100%. But, the law is on the books about lying (or any semantics thereof) to a federal official. The intention of the lie has very little bearing. In essence, perjury has been committed. Even if there are other factors, USCIS has and is calling him out on it.

A "good" lawyer is definitely in order should he even have hopes of getting through this legally.

I thought visa journey was about giving people good advices but not to criticize people. However I found some harsh comments in this tread. I didn't expect that from here. We all know that he lies but don't make it worse by criticizing. As a matter of fact we all were and are aliens. Edited August 8, 2012 by Presley