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Siberia to separate from Russia to become a part of USA

28.12.2011 15:43

The idea to separate Siberia and annex the territory to the United States of America has been engrossing the minds of Siberian separatists for a long time already. Surprisingly, or maybe not, they find the support from across the ocean.

Many, if not all Siberians, may think at times that the Siberian regions with their natural riches live poorly just because they have to give away a big part of their incomes to other territories of the Russian Federation. It is not a very popular idea in Siberia, of course, but it may visit people's minds time and again. Some people even tried to put that idea into action: they decided to establish a political movement. The vain attempts did not lead to anything, but quantity may easily evolve into quality, especially if they find powerful forces of support.

A whole movement emerged during the recent population census in the Russian Federation. The movement promotes the idea to identify the nationality of those living in Siberia as the Siberians. A special group appeared on Facebook in the summer of the outgoing year. The members of the group believe that Siberia should become a part of the United States of America. The initiator of the strange movement, Vladimir Kiselyov, a 37-year-old resident of the city of Mezhdurechensk, believes that Siberia must get rid of the Moscow yoke. According to him, Siberia will not be able to become an independent state. The only way for the territory to prosper in the future is to become a part of the US.

"The referendum will be held with the help of the US administration. The US has successful experience in obtaining independence. After the referendum, Siberia will become a part of the territory of the United States, just like California and Alaska are, even though they were Russian colonies in the 19th century," Kiselyov said.

You may laugh at it, but the idea finds its followers in the US. US politician Zbigniew Brzezhinski, a well-known politician, put forward an idea during his speech at the Political Forum in Yaroslavl to create a new commonwealth from Vancouver to Vladivostok. The politician did not specify, from which end the movement was supposed to start, but judging upon Brzezhinski's views, one shall assume that he was interested in the shortest way possible. It appears that America approaches the goal responsibly and begins to train managers to administer the new territories.

The Irkutsk State University has recently held a seminar with the participation of fifth-year students of the US-Siberian Department for Management and "Regionalistic Alternative to Siberia" Public Movement. The future graduates of the US-Siberian Department of the University analyzed the pluses and minuses of the future of the Siberian state, as well as the risks for its creation and existence. First priority was paid to the economic grounds of the state of Siberia," the final report at the seminar said.

This is not a joke already. It goes about Russian specialists, the future elite of the Russian society, although this society is not actually Russian. It is also very alarming that such seminars are held at a higher educational institution, whose administration does not seem to care much about the propaganda of separatist ideas among its students.

Lev Pravin

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Never happen.

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Of course not. I found the Pravda article was humerous.

September 7, 2009 - met Lena online
October 20, 2010 - First Meeting in Kharkov
Oct 20, 2010 - Engaged
December 3, 2010 - Filed I-129F
December 16, 2010 - NOA-1 notification
December 30, 2010 - Second Visit to Kharkov
February 8, 2011 - Touched
April 18, 2011 - NOA-2 notification
April 18, 2011 - Petition at NVC
April 25, 2011 - Medical Exam
April 26, 2011 - Received at Embassy
April 27, 28, 29, 2011 - Repeat medical (passed medical)
May 5, 2011 - Packet #4 received by mail in Ukraine
June 17, 2011 - Interview scheduled 9:00 AM
June 17, 2011 - Visa approved
June 18, 2011 - Interview Review posted
July 11, 2011 - POE - Detroit
July 17, 2011 - Applied for Marriage License
July 17, 2011 - Applied for SSN
August 17, 2011 - Married in Russian Orthodox Church - Detroit
November 11, 2011 - Submitted AOS/EAD/AP
January 3, 2012 - NOA 1
February 7, 2012 - Still no Biometrics appointment
February 10, 2012 - Service Request - no Biometrics appointment to date
February 29, 2012 - Infopass appointment Detroit (no Biometrics appointment letter - over 40 days)
March 9, 2012 - Biometrics
March 12, 2012 - EAD card production email received
March 23, 2012 - EAD received
March 24, 2012 - AOS interview appointment for April 24, 2012 (Detroit)
April 24, 2012 - AOS approved!
May 2, 2012 - 2 year provisional Green Card received
June 2, 2012 - First job - Russian Kindergarden in Oak Park, Michigan

Feb 5, 2014 - I-751 sent

Sept 19, 2014 - RFE

Nov 3, 2014 - Case moved to Detroit Field Office

Dec 29, 2014 - ROC Interview - Detroit Field Office

Feb 16, 2015 - I-751 approved after 2nd interview

Feb 18, 2015 - I 551 stamp in passport

Mar 5, 2015 - 10 year Permanent Resident Status

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Eh, well, Siberians should research Guam, the US Virgin Islands and the infamous case of Puerto Rico. There's a referendum brewing up in PR to figure out what the "new status" will be. Clearly, one of the parties would NOT like to add a 51st state for many reasons. For one, it costs $81 million (data from 10 years ago) just to add a star to the flag. I don't think this is a debt the US would like to add to its already huge bill. Meanwhile half of Puerto Ricans hope and long for the day where our star will wave alongside the other 50.

This is a school of thought I'm not associated with, by the way.

All this said, good luck to my Siberians brothers and sisters.

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Eh, well, Siberians should research Guam, the US Virgin Islands and the infamous case of Puerto Rico. There's a referendum brewing up in PR to figure out what the "new status" will be. Clearly, one of the parties would NOT like to add a 51st state for many reasons. For one, it costs $81 million (data from 10 years ago) just to add a star to the flag. I don't think this is a debt the US would like to add to its already huge bill. Meanwhile half of Puerto Ricans hope and long for the day where our star will wave alongside the other 50.

This is a school of thought I'm not associated with, by the way.

All this said, good luck to my Siberians brothers and sisters.

Siberia and Russia Far East are worth trillions of dollars in minerals, and have the land mass of Europe. PR, Guam, etc.. are ink spots that cost the US money...PR for sure. I would gladly trade and and all US protectorates for Russia Far East and/or Siberia in a heart beat.

With that said, anything Russia east of the Urals has been getting hosed from the times of Ivan the Terrible and it hasn't gotten any better throughout the centuries. They support European Russia...Moscow to St. Petersburgh...those cities are powered up by Eastern Russian minerals including gas, oil, lumber, gold, nickel, coal...you name it. And what does Eastern Russia get in return? Try zero.

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Maybe we should just annex Siberia as a part of Alaska. It would be separated just like Michigan. Just think about it as Western Alaska. The riches of both sections is enough to generate plenty of interest. :rofl:

Time to put this in the "Never Happen" category. :lol:

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Maybe we should just annex Siberia as a part of Alaska. It would be separated just like Michigan. Just think about it as Western Alaska. The riches of both sections is enough to generate plenty of interest. :rofl:

Time to put this in the "Never Happen" category. :lol:

We had the chance at one time and we dropped the ball. We had the bomb when nobody else did. We could have annexed everything east of the Urals. The US would have been way better off for it, and so would the people living there. It was a win win situation.

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Siberia and Russia Far East are worth trillions of dollars in minerals, and have the land mass of Europe. PR, Guam, etc.. are ink spots that cost the US money...PR for sure. I would gladly trade and and all US protectorates for Russia Far East and/or Siberia in a heart beat.

Throw in California along with those and I'll say we have a deal! LOL

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Throw in California along with those and I'll say we have a deal! LOL

:thumbs:

No California makes for a better US. :yes:

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Zbigniew Brzezhinski isn't even a politician.
No; it's a throat disease, sneeze man.

How many undocumented Democrats are in Siberia for 0bama to annex?

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05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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A belated, excellent thought: We will permit annexation of Siberia if, si man:

1. They develop a term for "wedgie" in their own language and dialects, si man; and

B. Every member here participates in this poll: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/249659-wedgies-si-man/ , si man.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Funny joke.

It's like one of those that the USA will fall apart.

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It's like one of those that the USA will fall apart.

It happened once already .... The civil war

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07/30/2010 - MARRIED!

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08/29/2010 - AOS-EAD sent
09/08/2010 - NOA1
09/17/2010 - Biometrics
11/06/2010 - EAD card received
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After two amazing years together....

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05/06/2013 - Green Cards Arrived

Citizenship:

08/31/2013 - N-400 sent

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It's a fact people east of the Urals aren't happy and haven't been happy for years now. That part of Russia gives everything and gets nothing in return. If they had the chance they would go it on their own in a heartbeat. They would be rich. All those resources doing nothing for them and everything for Moscow and St. Petersburg. It's a shame.

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