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what does the term LEGAL ALIEN means?

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We frequently hear the word "LEGAL" here in the US. I have been asked many times.... if i am LEGAL? So i was wondering what does this LEGAL ALIEN or LEGAL Immigrant means?

As per my common sense I beleive any body in the USA holding a valid visa who entered US legally ( no matter if it is VISIT or STUDENT or WORK PERMIT ) is a legal alien or legal immigrant. Please correct me if I am wrong ?

Some people claim that ONLY green card holders or US passport holders are called legal aliens here in the USA is that true? so all other valid visa holders who entered US legally through border are illegal aliens/illegal immigrants?

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We frequently hear the word "LEGAL" here in the US. I have been asked many times.... if i am LEGAL? So i was wondering what does this LEGAL ALIEN or LEGAL Immigrant means?

As per my common sense I beleive any body in the USA holding a valid visa who entered US legally ( no matter if it is VISIT or STUDENT or WORK PERMIT ) is a legal alien or legal immigrant. Please correct me if I am wrong ?

Some people claim that ONLY green card holders or US passport holders are called legal aliens here in the USA is that true? so all other valid visa holders who entered US legally through border are illegal aliens/illegal immigrants?

I will leave the final decision on VJ experts. Thank you for reading the post.

Some who is illegal is someone who ENTERED illegally. Someone who entered without inspection.

Someone is "out of status" if they have entered legally, but their I-94 or visa is expired.

You are a "resident" if you are a greencard holder. While waiting for the AOS to process you are "status pending". You're not illegal because you entered legally. You're not out of status because the NOA1 from the AOS is your "extension of status" so to speak.

Some people truly have no idea about immigration so don't take it personally.

** moved from "Adjustment of Status (Green Card) from Family Based Visas" to General Immigration Related Discussion as this isn't a question about the AOS process specifically, more a general Immigration "question"/need for definition**

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+1 above.

"Some people" are idiots.

You are correct.

"Alien" means a person who is not a US citizen or US national.

If you entered the US on a legal status, and have not overstayed that status, you are LEGAL.

If you are not a US citizen or national, you are an ALIEN.

If you are both, then you must be a LEGAL ALIEN.

It's shocking what you can figure out with common sense and the ability to comprehend written English.

"Some people" are idiots. And you can tell them I said that. :)

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+1 above.

"Some people" are idiots.

You are correct.

"Alien" means a person who is not a US citizen or US national.

If you entered the US on a legal status, and have not overstayed that status, you are LEGAL.

If you are not a US citizen or national, you are an ALIEN.

If you are both, then you must be a LEGAL ALIEN.

It's shocking what you can figure out with common sense and the ability to comprehend written English.

"Some people" are idiots. And you can tell them I said that. :)

lol ...........you are right ... :thumbs::thumbs:

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I will probably be chastised for this, as I've seen others chastised for it in the past, but... :whistle:

I disagree. An illegal alien is any alien (not a citizen, national, or lawful permanent resident) who is unlawfully present. This includes people who entered illegally, and people who have overstayed their visa or entry permit.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegal%20alien

http://immigration.about.com/od/immigrationglossary/g/IllegalAlien.htm

http://www.wordnik.com/words/illegal%20alien

(There's more. No time...)

An illegal immigrant is an illegal alien who intends to remain indefinitely; i.e., to immigrate.

An undocumented alien is a politically correct euphemism for illegal alien.

An undocumented immigrant is a politically correct euphemism for illegal immigrant.

An undocumented worker is a politically correct euphemism for an illegal alien who is also working illegally in the US.

The question "Are you legal?" generally equates to "Are you lawfully present in the US?".

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The majority or at least close to the majority of Americans (=51%) are idiots, drones, people who are so ignorant of even the most basic facts of life, including the language they should have learned from early childhood on.

When it comes to immigration, my guess is that about three third of Americans are fairly clueless. They can't even comprehend, let alone know, how complicated and sometimes intricate the whole immigration process is. Even journalists and politicians, generally people who have a college degree and advanced English skills, often talk about "legal citizens," as if there even was such a thing as an illegal citizen.

If you were to ask the President of the United States, or the VP, or the Speaker of the House, what the difference between a K-3 and a CR-1 is, they most likely wood look at you with wide open eyes before they search for a way to change the subject. How can we expect a meaningful immigration system or reform under such circumstances?

Edited by Just Bob

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