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CR-1 Interview in Bangkok, Thailand

#1 TheBears

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 10:36 AM

Interview Date: June 8, 2010

Husby woke up around 3, with his lovely Wifey calling around 3:30 to make sure. We went over the documents, what they were for, when to use them, etc. and he was out the door. Twenty minutes into the drive, he goes "Oh... Crap!" Lovely, Dear. He forgot the copies of all of the forms and documents we sent to USCIS and NVC. So he went back for them. We should have taken this as a sign.

He parked and hopped on the BTS. Getting off at Ploern Chit, he walked the rest of the way to the Embassy. He started at the wrong door and was to go around to the other side. Again, this should have been a sign.

He finally made it to the right place and promptly struck up a conversation with the others waiting. When they were let in, he passed the guard with no problems. (Remember: Leave your phone and electronics in the car.) He gave his documents to the prescreener. She took the new I-864 but ignored the new DS-230. Good enough. The wait began.

Silly man, he doesn't remember in which order he was called. He wasn't first, but he wasn't last. It was around 10 o'clock. There were two COs conducting interviews -- a man and a woman. The man was being very abrupt with the interviewees and speaking loud enough for everyone else to hear what was going on. The woman was alright. He was called to Window 6 with the woman.

Things started out straightforward enough. The oath, the fingerprints, the signature.

What is your wife's name? Mrs. Bear.
How did you meet? On Skype.
When? April 2005.
When was the first time she came to see you? March 14, 2008.
Where? Australia.
How long were you in Australia? 1 year.
What were you doing there? Working and studying.
Do you know Charles? No. (Former joint sponsor's husband. Long story.)
Did you know your wife was married before? Yes.
Do you know when she got married? April 26, 2004. No, 2005.
Is that what your wife told you? I'm sorry. I remembered incorrectly. It was 2005.

At this point, the woman walked away to consult with the man. Woo! Let the fun begin.

And when did you meet her? April 2005.
Did you know she was married at the time when you met her? Yes.
<Nothing. Just a look.>
We were friends for a long time. After a while, her marriage didn't go well. They weren't living together when we started being together.
She has a child, did you know that?
Yes.
Are you ready to have a child?
Yes.
You've met him? No, but we talk on the phone.
Alright.
Your wife is American, right? Why aren't you interviewing in English? Because usually we speak to each other in Thai.
<Picking up a copy of one of the cards I sent to Husby.> Did your wife write this?
Yes.
And you wrote this one? <Pointing to another card, this one from Husby to me.> Yes.
She understands it all? Yes.
How does she know how to speak Thai? Oh... because her ex-husband is Thai.
Huh? Her ex-husband is Thai? She only wants to date Thais or what? Ummmm. <Poor guy! And WTF at the lady! Completely uncalled for.>
He's an American.
Oh? Yes.
So her ex-husband got his citizenship this way, too?
No. I don't know. He may have naturalized with his parents or something.
So he went to the US only for citizenship, right? I don't think so.
But he's Thai? Yes.
So she did the same thing as with you, right? No.
How does your wife know her ex-husband? They went to high school together.
How can your wife speak Thai? Her ex-husband is Thai. When they lived together, they spoke Thai at home and English when out and about.
Oh. So where did she learn? You mean from a school? She didn't. They spoke it at home.
Mmhmm. And how long has she been speaking Thai? I don't know. Since before we met.
And why did she and her ex divorce? <Confused for a second.> Because he wasn't being a good husband. He wasn't taking care of her or the baby.

But she was married to him when you met and you knew about this? Yes.

<Writing on a piece of paper.> You can come pick up your visa on June 18 at 1 PM. <Amazed.> Thank you.

He took the piece of paper and walked back to a seat to check over all of the documents the CO returned. We had talked that he would double-check them while he was still with her, but that would have been a bad idea in this case.

We knew that we had this red flag in our case. My ex is Thai. He was born here to Thai parents, so he has citizenship since birth. Husby and I have gone over this a few times, but I can see how he could be confused. Citizenship and visas are confusing subjects. We also knew that it might be a problem that I took so long to divorce my ex. We weren't living together for several years, but neither of us wanted to bother going through the divorce. Our lives were fine. One day Husby started talking a lot more about the future than he had previously. So I started the divorce process. Husby and I started out as language partners and remained that way for quite a while before becoming an item. I don't know if the CO read my evolution of relationship letter or not, but I clearly explained our situation in that letter. I suspect she did read it and didn't think it too terribly important. Until she found out that The Ex is Thai, that is. From there, she must have suspected that my previous marriage (and by extension my current marriage) were fraudulent so that Thais could have a path to American citizenship. This isn't the case at all, and I think she was able to understand that.

In all, the interview alone took about an hour. It was in Thai because that's the language we use to communicate with each other. Husby said several cases took longer than the 5-10 minutes I had told him about. There were several trips for consultation with the male CO. Because of that, I can only thank God that we were not put in AP.

Whether this is a result of a general policy of additional scrutiny when compared to previous cases or of the merits of those individual cases presented that day is uncertain. I would say both are probably true.

Advice for Others:

Know your red flags. Pull out your Hater Vision goggles! Think of all the negative things in your life. You may not consider them to be negatives – I don't view my previous relationship as a negative – but others may. An answer of "I don't see anything that could be a problem" is always a wrong answer.

Know your partner. Make sure your partner knows you. If you have a past, be sure your partner knows just as much about it as you do. No secrets. No lies. No being stingy on the details.

Bring evidence to support it all. If you previously made a visa petition for someone else, bring the Denial Notice. Or receipt for the flight back. For me, I have a copy of The Ex's birth certificate and passport. I could have sent that to Husby. He could have pulled it out to show the CO that The Ex has jus soli citizenship. That would have been the end of it.

The trend is that Bangkok is becoming more and more strict about who they are approving. They are examining documents and details. Be prepared for this.

Review of the Embassy Staff:

Husby didn't have any problems with the staff. They were polite. The CO was firm when trying to figure out if our case was fraudulent or not and threw the questions at him rapidly. The interpreter wasn't friendly during that part, either. They were doing their job. They had to ascertain to a reasonable degree of certainty that I am not selling a ticket to citizenship and that Husby was not buying. I'm happy that she followed up on her suspicions.

Thank you to the March/April NVC group and the Thai K-1 group. You all have provided support, humor, and knowledge. Husby and I appreciate you and wish you the best throughout all of your journeys.

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USCIS : 104 Days
10-30-2009 : I-130 and Documents Sent
11-06-2009 : NOA1
02-18-2010 : NOA2

NVC : 66 Days

02-24-2010 : Case Number Assigned
02-25-2010 : E-Mails Given to NVC Operator
02-26-2010 : DS-3032 Sent by E-Mail
03-02-2010 : Received DS-3032 and AOS Bill
03-02-2010 : DS-3032 Accepted
03-02-2010 : Pay AOS and IV Bill Online
03-04-2010 : AOS Shows PAID
03-08-2010 : IV Bill Shows PAID
03-09-2010 : AOS and Documents Sent
03-09-2010 : Receive IV Bill
03-19-2010 : DS-230 and Documents Sent
03-24-2010 : False RFE for DS-230; Confirmed AOS Reviewed and No Missing Information Found
04-02-2010 : Sign-In Failed. Thank you, Lord!
04-05-2010 : Case Completed at NVC
04-15-2010 : Majorly Unhappy with NVC
04-30-2010 : Interview Date Assigned

Embassy :
05-06-2010 : Medical Exam
06-08-2010 : Interview Date -- Approved! Experience and Review
06-18-2010 : Visa Received

#2 sachinky

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 10:46 AM

Advice for Others:

Know your red flags. Pull out your Hater Vision goggles! Think of all the negative things in your life. You may not consider them to be negatives – I don't view my previous relationship as a negative – but others may. An answer of "I don't see anything that could be a problem" is always a wrong answer.

Know your partner. Make sure your partner knows you. If you have a past, be sure your partner knows just as much about it as you do. No secrets. No lies. No being stingy on the details.


I fully second this. Most people seem to be too blinded regarding their relationship. 'We love each other' *cutsey hug* is NOT good enough. Not for relatively high-fraud consulates. And then they wonder why things didn't go their way.

Once again, many congratulations, Kari. And thanks for a great, informative and detailed review! Wishing you all the best and a happy wedded life together! :)

Edited by sachinky, 11 June 2010 - 10:48 AM.

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03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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#3 yohino

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:05 AM

Great review with lots of great advice.
Big congrats Kari!!
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April 2007 : Met
05/12/07 : First time we hung out
07/28/07 : Officialy dating
06/07/09 : Engaged
09/04/09 : Married

10/06/09 : I-130 Sent
10/15/09 : NOA1
01/11/10 : Expedite Request Sent Through Congressman
01/14/10 : NOA2

01/22/10 : Got NVC casenumber
03/16/10 : Case Complete

05/04/10 : Medical
05/11/10 : Interview - APPROVED!!
05/14/10 : Passport w/ Visa recieved

05/29/10 : POE JFK
06/25/10 : Apply for SSN
06/29/10 : Received Welcome Letter
07/01/10 : Recieved SSN (33 days after POE)
07/07/10 : Greencard production ordered
07/13/10 : Second Welcome Letter recieved
07/15/10 : Green Card recieved (47 days after POE)

04/02/12 : ROC NOA1
05/24/12 : ROC Biometrics
12/19/12 : ROC Approval
12/24/12 : New GC recieved

#4 thongd4me

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 12:08 PM

Congrats!

That was some trial by fire. My wife's K-1 interview was not as rigorous as your "Husby's"
but we both were married before and I would give the same advice that you give to others
meaning don't lie and know each other's history inside and out.


The one thing they picked up on my wife's history was that she divorced her ex-husband twice.

There was a time around 17 years ago when they went through some rough times where
they were divorced for about 2 months but remarried for the sake of the son, not because
they wanted to be married to each other. When she met me she divorced him again almost
immediately. That was 7 years ago, so when we filed the petition she had been divorced
for more than a few years.

Since the first divorce, they lived as brother and sister rather than a couple and occupied
different rooms on different floors of their house. With a son in the university they could
not afford separate accommodations and she did not ask me to pay for that because
there was no problem in living there. She considered any money I spent to be her money
because she considered me to be her true husband even if we were not married yet.
If I had been spending for an apartment for her, she considered it wasting her money,
money that we both could spend in the future. I had no problem with that view.

Even after she met me, they saw no reason to change those arrangements and as I
was there too whenever I was in Thailand and there were no complaints from my side.
I always treated her ex with respect and the feeling was mutual. He had in fact moved
on as she did.

Naturally the CO asked her if she was sleeping with him, to which she replied
"Do you think I would do such a stupid thing if I divorced him twice?"

End of interview. Visa approved.

PS -
Whenever I think of her ex I don't think of him as competition but feel a little sorry for
him, because he had a Thai girlfriend for a short time who really was bad news and
since that time he has not tested the waters. I would not be surprised to see him
become a monk when he retires.
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02/2003 - Met
08/24/09 I-129F; 09/02 NOA1; 10/14 NOA2; 11/24 interview; 11/30 K-1 VISA (92 d); 12/29 POE 12/31/09 Marriage
03/29/-04/06/10 - AOS sent/rcd; 04/13 NOA1; AOS 2 NBC
04/14 $1010 cashed; 04/19 NOA1
04/28 Biom.
06/16 EAD/AP
06/24 Infops; AP mail
06/28 EAD mail; travel 2 BKK; return 07/17
07/20/10 interview, 4d. b4 I-129F anniv. APPROVAL!*
08/02/10 GC
08/09/10 SSN

2012-05-16 Lifting Cond. - I-751 sent
2012-06-27 Biom,
2013-01-10 7 Mo, 2 Wks. & 5 days - 10 Yr. PR Card (no interview)
*2013-04-22 Apply for citizenship (if she desires at that time) 90 days prior to 3yr anniversary of P. Residence

#5 Bernie C

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 12:41 PM

CONGRATS :thumbs:
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6/15/2009 Filed I-129F
12/15/2009 Interview (HCMC, VN)
1/16/2010 POE Detroit
3/31/2010 MARRIED !!!
11/20/2010 Filed I-485
12/23/2010 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)
12/31/2010 I-485 Transfered to CSC
2/4/2011 Green Card received
1/7/2013 Mailed I-751 package
1/14/2013 I-751 NOA (VSC)
2/07/2013 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)

#6 LoveRani

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 02:40 PM

Congratulations once again and thank you for the detailed review :star:
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USCIS Journey:

January 5/2010 - Petition Sent
January 12 - NOA1 Hard Copy
March 15 - Email I-130 Approved

NVC Journey:

March 20 - Mail NOA2 HardCopy
March 20 - NVC Case Number assigned
March 23 - Got NVC Case Number and gave emails
March 25 - Got AOS Bill / DS-3032
March 27 - Emailed DS-3032
March 27 - Paid AOS Bill
March 31 - AOS Bill shows PAID
March 31 - DS-3032 sent by email accepted
April 07 - Paid IV Bill
April 09 - IV Bill shows PAID
April 09 - Sent AOS package via USPS
April 12 - AOS package Delivered and signed by N. Visa Center
April 13 - Sent DS-230 package via USPS
April 14 - DS-230 package Delivered and signed by N. Visa Center
April 16 - N. Visa Center received all documents
April 23 - LIF!!! Sweeet!!! Thank You Bhagvan / inşallah =)
May 18 - Interview date assigned June 22 @ 8:30 am. Thank you Bhagvan again / inşallah =)
June 04 - Wife went for medical and got it done
June 22 - Wife's interview (Missing Bank statement) =(
June 25 - Sent Bank letter to wife
June 29 - Wife got the bank letter and sent it to embassy
July 07 - Wife got visa in hand!! Thank You Bhagvan / inşallah =)
Aug 02 - Wife's POE!!! (Excited) =)
Aug 02 - Picked up my wife at 8:45 pm (Super happy to be with her again) =)
Aug 02/2010 - Lifting of Conditions
**Thank You VJ Family especially sachinky**

#7 tokyo.lovers

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 02:56 PM

wow!!! what an interview!!!

but i laughed out loud when after all those hard questions they just said, you can get your visa on XX date.
hahahha

congrats!!!
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USCIS JOURNEY
12-08-09 - I-130 Delivered to Chicago Lockbox
12-11-09 - Notice of Action (NOA1)
02-25-10 - Notice of Action 2 (NOA2) ~CA service center~
03-23-10 - PCC Applied - GET 04/01
Your I-130 was approved in 76 days from your NOA1 date

NVC JOURNEY
03-03-10 - NVC Case Number Assigned
03-05-10 - Email give
03-09-10 - AOS bill; Agent Email Get
03-10-10 - Paid AOS Bill; Email/Mail DS-3032
03-12-10 - AOS Bill Status: PAID
03-15-10 - IV Bill Email Get; Pay IV Bill
03-16-10 - IV Bill Status: PAID; AOS @ NVC
04-07-10 - IV Pack @ NVC
04-12-10 - IV Pack Enters AVR
04-20-10 - Log-in Fail
04-21-10 - Case Complete
04-30-10 - Interview Date Assigned
05-07-10 - NVC Forwards Case to Embassy, Tokyo
Your case was complete in 50 days at NVC

EMBASSY JOURNEY
04-16-10 - Medical Exam ($400) - PASSED
05-10-10 - Embassy Receives Case from NVC
06-28-10 - INTERVIEW - Moved
06-21-10 - INTERVIEW - APPROVED!
06-22-10 - Visa Received
Your interview took 192 days from your I-130 NOA1 date

USA JOURNEY
07-05-10 - US Entry
07-26-10 - Request SSC @ SS office
07-28-10 - Welcome Letter (2nd on 8/9)
08-02-10 - SSC GET
08-12-10 - Green Card GET -38 days
04-05-2012 - File I-751: APPROVED 10/17

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#8 lilib

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 07:37 AM

Grats!
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Naturalization(N-400):
04/11/2013: N-400 Dallas,TX Lockbox

05/07/2013: Biometrics Appointment, USCIS St. Albans,VT

07/16/2013: Interview @ 3:00pm

08/05/2013: Oath Ceremony @ 2:00pm


#9 daboyz

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 08:19 AM

I wonder why it's taking 10 days to issue the visa? They used to do it the next day. Maybe new equipment?
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Service Center : Vermont Service Center
Consulate : Bangkok, Thailand
Marriage : 2006-11-08
I-130 Sent : 2008-02-22
I-130 NOA1 : 2008-03-10
I-129F Sent : 2008-04-08
I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-14
I-129F touched: 2008-05-06
I-130 touched: 2008-05-09
I-129F approved 2008-09-05
I-130 approved 2008-09-05
NVC received 2008-09-12
Pay I-864 2008-10-08
Pay IV bill 2008-10-08
Receive Instruction 2008-11-05
Case Complete 2008-11-18
Medical 2009-01-19/20 passed
Receive Pkt 4 2009-01-30
Interview 221g 2009-02-23
Second interview 2009-03-02 Approved
POE DFW 2009-03-07
Received SS card 2009-03-17
Received GC 2009-04-01

Done for 3 years or 10 years. Haven't decided yet.

(I'm going for the IR-1 and blowing off the K-3. Even if it takes an extra couple months, it's worth it to not have to deal with USCIS again)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:
Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 01:29 PM

TheBears, that's a lot of questions. Heck, I don't think both our interviews for K3 and IR1 combined totaled more than 10 minutes. I am glad things went well for you and no issues came up regarding affidavit of support.

Good things happen to good, honest people.
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FINGERS CROSSED, FAITH IN GOD'S HAND.

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


Our journey
http://www.visajourn...howtopic=115855

NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
Rec'd reentry permit 10-09-10 ( 4 mths 1 wk )


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