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#1 User is offline   bigcasino75 Icon

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:16 AM

Hi all I am new here and will be applying for a K1 for my fiencee in a month or so. We are in no hurry now because she is in school in Thailand till next June so now I am just reading info and advice but here is one that I am not sure of. We met on a website called thaikisses.com it is a international dating site but it is more for europeanes than americans is this a IMB and when i am ask if we met on a IMB do I say yes? I am not sure and would hate to put down the wrong answer and get rejected because of it. thanks forr any help you can give
Oct. 2008 met Sa on Thaikisses and started chatting
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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE (bigcasino75 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all I am new here and will be applying for a K1 for my fiencee in a month or so. We are in no hurry now because she is in school in Thailand till next June so now I am just reading info and advice but here is one that I am not sure of. We met on a website called thaikisses.com it is a international dating site but it is more for europeanes than americans is this a IMB and when i am ask if we met on a IMB do I say yes? I am not sure and would hate to put down the wrong answer and get rejected because of it. thanks forr any help you can give


duplicate post: http://www.visajourn...howtopic=210337
Ray & Kat

Summary of our journey:
K1: 01/15/2009 (mailed I-129F) - 06/23/2009 (visa received)
AOS: 08/08/2009 (mailed I-485, I-765, & I-131) - 10/29/2009 (received GC)


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Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:06 AM

Did you have to pay for the site? If you did pay for the site then it's IMBRA i believe.
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Posted 30 July 2009 - 12:35 PM

If you had to pay for the site matching and facilitating communication between the two of you, its IMBRA.
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Posted 31 July 2009 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE (furiousng @ Jul 30 2009, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you had to pay for the site matching and facilitating communication between the two of you, its IMBRA.


No, paying for a dating site does not automatically mean that it falls under IMBRA.
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Posted 31 July 2009 - 11:01 AM

QUOTE (Matt & Bing @ Jul 31 2009, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (furiousng @ Jul 30 2009, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you had to pay for the site matching and facilitating communication between the two of you, its IMBRA.


No, paying for a dating site does not automatically mean that it falls under IMBRA.


I would have to agree with you. There do seem to be exceptions. An excerpt from my post in the OP's duplicate thread:

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The definition of IMB, under Section 833(e)(4)(A), is any corporation, individual, or legal entity, whether or not existing under the laws of the U.S., who charges fees for providing dating, matrimonial, matchmaking or social referrals or is "otherwise faciliating communication between individuals."

There are, under Section 833(e)(4)( B) , TWO IMPORTANT EXCEPTIONS, : 1) "The Non-Profit": a traditional matchmaking organization of a cultural or religious nature which offers its services on a non-profit basis under law, tyically a state-registered corporation, and 2) "The Non-Primary Business with Comparable Rates": a domestic dating service or other primary service whose principal business is NOT international dating and which charges comparable rates for comparable services to all individuals, men and women, domestic and foreign.

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Ray & Kat

Summary of our journey:
K1: 01/15/2009 (mailed I-129F) - 06/23/2009 (visa received)
AOS: 08/08/2009 (mailed I-485, I-765, & I-131) - 10/29/2009 (received GC)


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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:24 PM

First, IMBRA applies only to internet sites that are under the jurisdicition of the laws of America. If your site is foreign based then it doesn't qualify. The payment of a fee refers more to the introduction process. Many web sites request members pay for the opportunity to access other members.

And if in doubt, go ahead and list it as an IMB. If you spell out everything and she is aware of any possible problems in your background, then you have nothing really to worry about. Its probably a good idea that your fiancee knows about any skeletons in your closet.




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Posted 03 August 2009 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE (furiousng @ Jul 30 2009, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you had to pay for the site matching and facilitating communication between the two of you, its IMBRA.



It doesn't matter. Just list them on Question 19 and there will be no problems. I used Elenas Models and had to pay to obtain her email address. Our petition was approved no problem.

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