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Police Certificiates = Ly Lich Tu Phap for all places I've lived since age 16?

#1 LEN KEN

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 10:39 PM

First, I would like to say thank you to each and every one of you for taking the time to post and reply to questions. You can not imagine how helpful this site is! A big THANK YOU to you!!!!


Facts:


- My husband has lived at different places in Vietnam, mostly in Ho Chi Minh City.

- He stayed at each of those places for over six months, so I listed them all in form DS-230 and G325A

- But his registry book (ho khau) is in Binh Duong

My questions:-
-> Does he need to get the police certificate (ly lich tu phap) for each place that I listed on DS-230? or just one in Binh Duong is good enough?

Thank in advance for your response!!!

Len Ken



* Having to go through all of this is a painful process!

Edited by LEN KEN, 17 March 2009 - 10:42 PM.

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#2 r0yalflush

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE (LEN KEN @ Mar 17 2009, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First, I would like to say thank you to each and every one of you for taking the time to post and reply to questions. You can not imagine how helpful this site is! A big THANK YOU to you!!!!


Facts:


- My husband has lived at different places in Vietnam, mostly in Ho Chi Minh City.

- He stayed at each of those places for over six months, so I listed them all in form DS-230 and G325A

- But his registry book (ho khau) is in Binh Duong

My questions:-
-> Does he need to get the police certificate (ly lich tu phap) for each place that I listed on DS-230? or just one in Binh Duong is good enough?

Thank in advance for your response!!!

Len Ken



* Having to go through all of this is a painful process!



good question, i just realized my fiancee has lived in another city for 2 years, i would like to know this also
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#3 r0yalflush

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:15 PM

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Edited by r0yalflush, 17 March 2009 - 11:18 PM.

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#4 r0yalflush

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (LEN KEN @ Mar 17 2009, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First, I would like to say thank you to each and every one of you for taking the time to post and reply to questions. You can not imagine how helpful this site is! A big THANK YOU to you!!!!


Facts:


- My husband has lived at different places in Vietnam, mostly in Ho Chi Minh City.

- He stayed at each of those places for over six months, so I listed them all in form DS-230 and G325A

- But his registry book (ho khau) is in Binh Duong

My questions:-
-> Does he need to get the police certificate (ly lich tu phap) for each place that I listed on DS-230? or just one in Binh Duong is good enough?

Thank in advance for your response!!!




Len Ken



* Having to go through all of this is a painful process!


i believed it doesnt matter how many cities you have lived in, as long as its in the same country. You only need to get it at one place. it is a requirement to get a police cer. if you have lived in another country besides Vietnam, otherwise you only need one for Vietnam.

Edited by r0yalflush, 17 March 2009 - 11:19 PM.

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#5 LEN KEN

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (r0yalflush @ Mar 18 2009, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i believed it doesnt matter how many cities you have lived in, as long as its in the same country. You only need to get it at one place. it is a requirement to get a police cer. if you have lived in another country besides Vietnam, otherwise you only need one for Vietnam.



I thought so too, but the NVC's "If..then.." statements scare me.


_ "IF the applicant… lived in a different part of their country of nationality for more than 6 months...THEN the applicant needs a police certificate from… the police authorities of that locality."

_ Link to full documents (bottom of the page): http://travel.state..../info_3195.html


- I am afraid that if I send in the police certificate for just one city, the NVC would declare "missing information" on my case, and this will delay the process.

- But it's very difficult to get phieu ly lich tu phap for different cities in Vietnam. It seems that your name has to be on the registry book (ho khau) for that locality in order to get the phieu ly lich tu phap from there. So if the person's registry book is in Binh Duong, even though he/she used to live in HCMC, he/she can not go to HCMC justice center for phieu ly lich tu phap.

Am I right or wrong? Does any one have the same problem?

Please help!

Thanks a lot!!!

Edited by LEN KEN, 19 March 2009 - 08:16 PM.

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#6 trailmix

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE (LEN KEN @ Mar 19 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (r0yalflush @ Mar 18 2009, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i believed it doesnt matter how many cities you have lived in, as long as its in the same country. You only need to get it at one place. it is a requirement to get a police cer. if you have lived in another country besides Vietnam, otherwise you only need one for Vietnam.



I thought so too, but the NVC's "If..then.." statements scare me.


_ "IF the applicant lived in a different part of their country of nationality for more than 6 months...THEN the applicant needs a police certificate from the police authorities of that locality."

_ Link to full documents (bottom of the page): http://travel.state..../info_3195.html


- I am afraid that if I send in the police certificate for just one city, the NVC would declare "missing information" on my case, and this will delay the process.

- But it's very difficult to get phieu ly lich tu phap for different cities in Vietnam. It seems that your name has to be on the registry book (ho khau) for that locality in order to get the phieu ly lich tu phap from there. So if the person's registry book is in Binh Duong, even though he/she used to live in HCMC, he/she can not go to HCMC justice center for phieu ly lich tu phap.

Am I right or wrong? Does any one have the same problem?

Please help!

Thanks a lot!!!


Well the wording on that is a bit misleading - probably because it would depend on how records are held in a country.

For Canada for instance one can request a 'Canada wide name check' from the RCMP or Local Police and that is sufficient for the whole country - regardless of how many places in Canada you have lived.

I am sure there are some places where records are held 'locally' rather than country wide and that is probably why they have worded it that way.

This is all the information I could find for Vietnam:

Police and Prison Records
Available.


Residents: Requests for a "Justice Record Check" (Phieu Ly Lich Tu Phap) are made at the Department of Justice office in an individual's district or official residence. The official residence is that registered in the "household registry" (Ho Khau) issued by the district police. There is a fee. The record check takes approximately three weeks to complete. The record check must be initiated in the district listed in the household registry as the citizen's official residence.

Non-Residents: Vietnamese citizens living overseas may request the "Justice Record Check" through the Vietnamese Embassy in their current country of residence. They may also request the "Justice Record Check" in person at their last place of residence in Vietnam, as reflected in their household registry.

Foreigners: Foreigners who reside or resided in Vietnam should contact the Vietnamese Department of Immigration in the district in which they currently reside/formerly resided to request the "Justice Record Check." link



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