[Dixie_Peach]

Hey guys... I have a friend who is also going through the k1 visa... and her habibi is from Morocco also. She said that her fiance' told her that the numbers are getting low for the visas being granted through Casablanca, and that they are putting restrictions on k1 visas. The main one that she says her fiance' is worried about is this: she said that he told her that he needs to have $4000 in the bank before they will issue him a visa. I told her that the information that she received from him did not sound valid, and told her to come to VJ to join and ask questions. She is afraid to join, she says that her habibi may get angry with her. Could you guys please give me some information to send her so that she will know what is right or wrong concerning the money in the bank? Thanks!
Blessings,
Lynne

[lostinlove228]

I could be wrong but i don't believe there is a number for how many marriage based visas they can give.

[sara535]

I don't think thats true, but i do think its a little wierd that her fiance would get mad that she joined an online forum to help them both get information about the immigration process....
Morocco (like many countries, I am sure) is a rumor mill when it comes to visas. Its very easy for misinformation to spread. I have never heard anything about having money in the bank as a requirement for a K-1, although it is necessary for a tourist visa.

[Dixie_Peach]

sara535, on Feb 9 2006, 07:40 PM, said:

I don't think thats true, but i do think its a little wierd that her fiance would get mad that she joined an online forum to help them both get information about the immigration process....
Morocco (like many countries, I am sure) is a rumor mill when it comes to visas. Its very easy for misinformation to spread. I have never heard anything about having money in the bank as a requirement for a K-1, although it is necessary for a tourist visa.

Sara
That is what I thought too... and that is exactly what I told her. She said that her fiance' doesn't want her to join ANY kind of groups online... he doesn't want anyone to know their business. Well....... too late now... she confided in me this morning. I have never met her habibi... but I do know her - and she is a worry wart. When she told me what her fiance' told her, the first thing that I thought was that someone had lied to them... and th en I thought he may be using her... but then again, they have been "together" for about 2 years. I told her to tell him that VJ is NOT a place to "meet" or chat-up another man... it is a place to gain information. Maybe she will join... I hope so... but, even so... i can forward this to her so that she can talk to him about it. Thanks a lot! Blessings,
Lynne

[~ Karima ~]

I have never heard anything about having to have money in an account for a K1 visa. There have been plenty of people who are unemployed who have been granted the K1. It is however, helpful if both parties are employed, but this about money sounds fishy to me.

I also think him getting angry about her trying to help him is ridiculous (just my opinion). My fiance was very very happy I found VJ and even signed up himself. If it were not for VJ we would have ended up married already with a longer wait for the CR1/K3.

[tnh9479]

Hicham and I have talked about this in the past. When others in Morocco know you are going for a visa to the US, they come up with all sorts of stories and lies. Sometimes it is out of jealousy. Other times it is to try to get money from them (or find out if they have money).

I wish your friend the best of luck!

Twila

[Dixie_Peach]

Thanks guys! I will pass along the information. I will keep talking to her about VJ... it has been a TREMENDOUS help to me and Jamal... but I think maybe it is what Twila says... that it could be jealousy... etc...
I know that I don't post as much as other people... but I am CONSTANTLY reading and searching for information here on VJ. I appreciate the help... and wish the best for all of you!
Lynne

[Bosco]

Dixie_Peach, on Feb 9 2006, 08:12 PM, said:

Thanks guys! I will pass along the information. I will keep talking to her about VJ... it has been a TREMENDOUS help to me and Jamal... but I think maybe it is what Twila says... that it could be jealousy... etc...
I know that I don't post as much as other people... but I am CONSTANTLY reading and searching for information here on VJ. I appreciate the help... and wish the best for all of you!
Lynne

Lynne,

It does seem that the K1 visas are getting harder to come by out of Casa, but VJ is only a limited sampling.

The beneficiary does not show any assets at all for a K1. A tourist visa, yes. Could be he is trying to extort money out of her, especially if he is trying to keep her from finding answers.

Rebecca

[dawnnhatem]

I was kinda thinking something like that too. Let her know that she doesn't nessessarily have to sign up and post to read and be as familiar with the process as possible. I think it would be nice if she at least knows where to find answers or support if she does ever want to reach out.

[~kiyah~]

I agree, bigtime. This having money in the bank...to the tune of 4,000 for a K1 visa is not true information. The only visa where the beneficiary is required to have ties like this is a tourist visa...and that is a fact.

Yes, it very well could be someone giving him this information out of jealousy, trying to steer him wrong or even find out if he has money. It is a sad fact that there are some men in Morocco who are fierce when it comes to this, if they can screw it up for someone, they will.

However, for him to not want her to find out information in a place like VJ and telling her that he needs 4,000 in the bank for this visa...something just does not smell right about this.

I can tell you this...if my fiance told me something like this when we started this process...a HUGE red flag would have appeared before my eyes. I would have heard a knocking in my brain saying..."Hello...something is really wrong here. Step back and look at everything twice...everything."

My fiance chooses not participate in this web site but only read, and he does not do that very often. He has been fully supportive of me being here though and is grateful for the help, information and support I get from this site. Let's face it...the government posts what to do regarding petitions, filing, etc. But they DO NOT tell us everything, every scenario and what to do if something happens, etc. This site has been very helpful in gathering information and sharing experiences throughout this process. My fiance is a very private person... and unless you actually know "me" you have no idea who I really am, or him...so our identities are really kept safe.

I would definitely advise your friend to join...even if she only reads. I know she wants to respect his wishes but I feel she has an even better chance in getting necessary helpful information if she actually participates...she does not have to give her or his real identity up here to participate. No one has to know who they really are.

I'm going to be brutally honest here...

I would also advise her to be careful and to pay very close attention to every single detail no matter how small. She may have been with him for 2 years, and they very well may have a very good relationship...but something like what he is telling her and him not wanting her to find information is not a good thing and only raises a red flag in my mind.

I would also advise her to be very careful about the money thing...I know many petitioners have sent their fiancees money at some point, but I still have no idea whether this is the reason why our petition is being sent back for review or not. I certainly never sent my fiance that anywhere near that amount of money...geez 4,000 is a HUGE amount. That is a REALLY HUGE amount to have in the bank in Morocco.

I wish her luck and I really hope she joins. She has nothing to lose...nothing at all.

[jennieh]

Is he maybe telling a lie to get her to pay that kind of money to him? I dont know but the posts sound like some others are getting this too.

[Dixie_Peach]

jennieh, on Feb 10 2006, 01:12 AM, said:

Is he maybe telling a lie to get her to pay that kind of money to him? I dont know but the posts sound like some others are getting this too.

Jennie & Kiya
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT TOO... but she swears that is not the case. She says that her fiance is only telling her what he has been told... and that the reason he doesn't want her to join is because he doesn't want people knowing their business.... *duh*

I have sent her the replies... and also told her that she doesn't have to join, but can just still surf and gather knowledge. You guys pray for her please... she is so worried about this. As for her habibi... I don't know him, so I can't answer... But I pray that is not the case... that he is just using her for money... I haven't thought to ask her if she sends him money though... hmm...

Kiya, Jennie... and everyone else going through Morocco... I wish you all the best. Thanks!

*fingers crossed* hopefull soon Jamal and I will get our noa2... *sigh*

*hugs ya'll*
Lynne

[farah2005]

hi lynne,

i m moroccan and went throuw this visa process .
during my medical exam i met some moroccan and they told me that i need to have 3000$ or more in my bank account to get the visa ,but when i asked them what type of visa they are appling for i found out that they win in the visa lottery program.
i think it s what exactely happened to your freind s fiance .
most moroccans beneficers don t understand neither the different visa types nor the visa process .

good luck

[myfellah]

I just wanted to add my two cents worth. I think this is all probably just a mistake on the type of visa. Many people get them confused. My husband tried for a tourist visa back in 9/03 and you have to have money in the bank, they need to know you have strong ties to your country, so money is just one of them. Perhaps he is just passing on information he thought was correct. I know this whole journey is very confusing and you have to keep things clear. I would give him the benefit of the doubt and let him know that a K-1 doesn't require this, only tourist and maybe others. I also think many people from Morocco or elsewhere too, are very private. You can't think they are bad just because they don't want people to know their business and when they learn about VJ they will see it is all kept very private. I wish your friend the best. I think it was just a mistake on the information given and not some red flag (my opinion only).

Doreen

[morocco4ever]

I guess it is possible that he is trying to get money out of her, but as many here have stated, it could be simply a misunderstanding about the type of visa. These men there are certainly no visa experts!

I would like to point out that my husband is very careful about letting others in on his private business. This truly is part of the culture. He doesn't mind if I come here on VJ, but he cautions me against listening to all of the advise. And he is right, some of the advise we listened too for the interview was wrong. But he has stressed many times not to give out too much information as to who we are. We Americans are much more open and trusting. But I have seen many times where an Arabic man has tried to break up our relationship based purely on jealousy (I dated an Iraqi for over 4 years, they do it too).

I wouldn't be 100% sure that he is using her, but more cautious. Do you know how many times I have heard from friends and family that my husband is using me for a visa? If you don't know the person you can't make that judgement call.

Okay, here is how to explain it to her so she understands. The reason they want to see money in the bank and personal property for a tourist visa is because they want to make sure they have enough incentive to go back to their country. In a K-1/K-3/CR1/IR1 visa the consulates are already aware that they don't intend on returning, leaving out the reason to have money/property in their country.

I hope this helps!