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SpiritAlight
Hello Wonder-Full VJ People,

Again,
a few questions.

Below are links to more info, but basically here it is in a nutshell:

How do I respond to these types of potential questions:
about being denied entry and "voluntarily" turning back.

and

What to say when my ancient charge comes up?
The aberration that occurred once in my life due to my truly not being myself at the time.

If any of you has been through this type of questioning, please step up the plate. Thanks.

Please do ask for more info if necessary.

Thank you all kindly!

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part 1:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1269803

part 2:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1272951
SpiritAlight
I should add:

that form for the RCMP discharge that was recommended to me (thanks again Mumsie)...I brought it to my local Legal Aid, and that criminal lawyer told me that that does not apply to me nor help me. Only doing a "pardon" application would.
Well I am in zero need of doing that.
The time and the cost is too much: mostly the time...and it is not necessary for me at this point.

And one more thing: the lawyer that is supposed to be helping us, but as done nothing...except one thing: she finally answered a question I have asked since the very beginning. She said my charge is not one of CMIT. That was great news to me, obviously. biggrin.gif
IR5FORMUMSIE
QUOTE(SpiritAlight @ Dec 10 2007, 01:59 PM) *
Hello Wonder-Full VJ People,

Again,
a few questions.

Below are links to more info, but basically here it is in a nutshell:

How do I respond to these types of potential questions:
about being denied entry and "voluntarily" turning back.

and

What to say when my ancient charge comes up?
The aberration that occurred once in my life due to my truly not being myself at the time.

If any of you has been through this type of questioning, please step up the plate. Thanks.

Please do ask for more info if necessary.

Thank you all kindly!

rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif


part 1:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1269803

part 2:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1272951



Hi Spirit,

I would tell it like it is. It was a bad time and I don't remember much from that time. As for the refusal of entry, I would only parrot what the CBP told me and everyone else, "you are being allowed to voluntarily withdraw your application for admission." Nobody really knows what this means so I don't think they're going to rake you over the coals for this. Tell the interviewer the truth, it's not like you're a maniac or tried to mislead congress by feigning ignorance. smile.gif



QUOTE(SpiritAlight @ Dec 10 2007, 02:09 PM) *
I should add:

that form for the RCMP discharge that was recommended to me (thanks again Mumsie)...I brought it to my local Legal Aid, and that criminal lawyer told me that that does not apply to me nor help me. Only doing a "pardon" application would.
Well I am in zero need of doing that.
The time and the cost is too much: mostly the time...and it is not necessary for me at this point.

And one more thing: the lawyer that is supposed to be helping us, but as done nothing...except one thing: she finally answered a question I have asked since the very beginning. She said my charge is not one of CMIT. That was great news to me, obviously. biggrin.gif


Just trying to be helpful. good.gif

Legal aid lawyers, PUUULEEEZE. laughing.gif The pardon is not for your situation, only if you have a more serious one. You can apply for a pseudo-purge of the absolute discharge (your record is sealed but it continues to exist in perpetuity, it's free BTW) but nothing will help since the FBI has your record already and they do not recognize purges or pardons under Canadian law. Still if you get a purge, it will carry some weight with USCIS.

I have read the Immigration Act (and various immigration lawyers' websites) and fraud is a crime of moral turpitude, so I must respectfully disagree with your lawyer. The great thing is, if you were so inclined, you could always truthfully claim, "well...my lawyer told me that I have never committed a crime of moral turpitude." whistling.gif It sounds better than doing your best imitation of William Shatner saying, "Moral Turpitude? My God, what's that." laughing.gif
SpiritAlight
With my whole heart:

thank you Mumsie.


I like it
and
I can feel it...

...unlike the "advice" I am getting from the free lawyer and the paid lawyer.

I do not trust them.
Hell, I do not even want to talk with my lawyer and it is down to the crunch;
to confer and all that.
Bleh.

I came to all of you.
You are worth your weights in GOLD.

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It's your mum's turn in TWO DAYS Mumsie.

I wish for you and your family the very best of luck, not that luck has much to do with it, other than maybe the waiting time.
IR5FORMUMSIE
QUOTE(SpiritAlight @ Dec 10 2007, 03:30 PM) *
With my whole heart:

thank you Mumsie.


I like it
and
I can feel it...

...unlike the "advice" I am getting from the free lawyer and the paid lawyer.

I do not trust them.
Hell, I do not even want to talk with my lawyer and it is down to the crunch;
to confer and all that.
Bleh.

I came to all of you.
You are worth your weights in GOLD.

star_smile.gif star_smile.gif star_smile.gif star_smile.gif star_smile.gif

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It's your mum's turn in TWO DAYS Mumsie.

I wish for you and your family the very best of luck, not that luck has much to do with it, other than maybe the waiting time.

Actually it's nine days but I'm getting a bit stressed anyways. It really doesn't help to replay the possible scenarios in your head too many times. Thanks for those kind thoughts and wishes and may they be returned to you a thousandfold. You are right about one thing, luck has very little to do with it. Give them the papers they want, and they'll give you the paper you want. That's the way of the bureaucrat, that's the way of the USCIS. crying.gif
trailmix
QUOTE(IR5FORMUMSIE @ Dec 10 2007, 02:18 PM) *
Actually it's nine days but I'm getting a bit stressed anyways. It really doesn't help to replay the possible scenarios in your head too many times. Thanks for those kind thoughts and wishes and may they be returned to you a thousandfold. You are right about one thing, luck has very little to do with it. Give them the papers they want, and they'll give you the paper you want. That's the way of the bureaucrat, that's the way of the USCIS. crying.gif


There is no way they are going to deny you, it just isn't going to happen.
SpiritAlight
I am a dyslexic spazzz at times.
I focused on the number 12, Mumsie, and didn't bother read any further.

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Hence that means you will leaving your kind, eclectic energy at the consulate 2 days before my fiancé and I get in through those doors. I will close my eyes and feel all that is good and all that is well. heart.gif

My sweetie and I are at our wits' ends (on so many levels) and so have engaged in long-distance verbal battle.
Like I have said, two first borns is a challenging relationship. tongue.gif
This trying year has certainly taken its toll.
Suffocating much of what is spontaneous, romantic and fun!
Damn them! tongue_ss.gif

And all this hold back has been and still is like a dam has been built.
We have been patching the cracks until we are "allowed" to live together.
It is ready to BLOW, hence the heightened passionate discourse. HA!

And I so know that I, he, you, and everyone can choose whatever we wish:
peace, quiet, harmony.

No one is deficient.

(more Wayne Dyer inspiration...mmmmm....)

sigh...

Almost at then end of this, and I am wanting him to run off with me to Mexico and raise chickens, goats and grow our own veggies and fruits.
Maybe it's the snow...


IR5FORMUMSIE
QUOTE(trailmix @ Dec 10 2007, 04:42 PM) *
QUOTE(IR5FORMUMSIE @ Dec 10 2007, 02:18 PM) *
Actually it's nine days but I'm getting a bit stressed anyways. It really doesn't help to replay the possible scenarios in your head too many times. Thanks for those kind thoughts and wishes and may they be returned to you a thousandfold. You are right about one thing, luck has very little to do with it. Give them the papers they want, and they'll give you the paper you want. That's the way of the bureaucrat, that's the way of the USCIS. crying.gif


There is no way they are going to deny you, it just isn't going to happen.

From your lips to their ears. laughing.gif Us OC types worry about the minutest details. There really doesn't need to be any rhyme or reason. My parents don't have birth certificates but realistically I don't think that's an issue. I have every confidence that success will be the result at Montreal, now if I could only convince myself of that. laughing.gif

Spirit, two first-borns? That's got to be dynamite. laughing.gif Still, meditate and take it in stride. In no time flat you'll be through with this silly, arbitrary game and back to reality. Remember the USCIS doesn't define your relationship, you do. Don't let them take that away from you by giving them that power good.gif . All games come to an end and this one will too. good.gif In the meantime, I will do my utmost to foment feelings of compassion and succor at the consulate. good.gif
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