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hanho
Hi all,

Thanks all for your wishes, its just few more days untill my wife will get the interview and I am kidda worry so hope anyone here can comfor me smile.gif

Has anyone here write a letter to explain more details about relationship before married? I have all kind of evidences such as pics before married, letters before married, wedding pics, pics after married, emails, fone bills but i am afraid its not enough (we dont have alot of evidences before married though) so if there is anyone here has the same problem please point me some ways to get over this. Any reply would be much appreciated.
NeverSeen
OHHHHHH!!!! I DID!!!

I wrote one about how we communicate and one about our love story. Tram tried to show both to the CO and the CO said "I won't be needing that."

and that was it. I was a little sad about this because they were such beautifully written letters. BUT if they didn't need it, thats also a good thing smile.gif.

As always... it can never hurt to add something to the pile of evidence. You just might here something like Tram did though!
MR2nice
To be on the safe side, I've also written a letter explaining our story and will get it notarized.
hanho
Thanks all, I think no need then but hope it will be oki. Mr2nice, you got it notarized?? woww, thats really a safe way to do smile.gif.
MR2nice
QUOTE(hanho @ Dec 10 2007, 03:03 PM) *
Thanks all, I think no need then but hope it will be oki. Mr2nice, you got it notarized?? woww, thats really a safe way to do smile.gif .


Yes, I've got it notarized. smile.gif I want to prepare as much as I can. I've also got my fiancee's aunt's information and notarized it too. yes.gif
Abby-Ron
QUOTE(MR2nice @ Dec 10 2007, 02:31 PM) *
To be on the safe side, I've also written a letter explaining our story and will get it notarized.



Why get it notarized? Notarizing it only shows that you signed the document and does not authenticate its validity of the document. Notary Publics only make sure the person who is signing the document, is that person... and thats it. Lots of people mistake them for Lawyers or the County Clerk.
MR2nice
QUOTE(rlpolo78 @ Dec 11 2007, 12:01 AM) *
Why get it notarized? Notarizing it only shows that you signed the document and does not authenticate its validity of the document. Notary Publics only make sure the person who is signing the document, is that person... and thats it. Lots of people mistake them for Lawyers or the County Clerk.


I guess I'm being too paranoid. laughing.gif
Hien
You must prepare the evidence carefully eventhough the CO want it or not. In some cases, they only require for one kind of evidence, then they approved.

The most important is your evidence. Which is clear enough to make people believe on your relationship.

I used to bring into Consulate a heavy back-bag of evidence, around 5 kgs of all evidence. But they only read my emails of the first period, that's all. Then they talked to me like the people who was curious to know about a love story and approved. I still remember the feelings how heavy the back-bag was when I came in there. I only could draw it on the ground with me, couldnot carry on the last minutes going out of the Consulate.

However, we have to prepare carefully, because who knows they will ask for which evidence?? At that time, the fiance/wife cannot come back home to get that evidence.

Hien
Hien
GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL
NeverSeen
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Why get it notarized? Notarizing it only shows that you signed the document and does not authenticate its validity of the document. Notary Publics only make sure the person who is signing the document, is that person... and thats it. Lots of people mistake them for Lawyers or the County Clerk.


I'm a notary, not a lawyer. So take this with a grain of salt because I'm pulling from memory, not statutes.

The notary should be asking you to acknowledge the contents of the document are accurate to the best of your knowledge, or they should be asking you to swear the contents are true prior to them signing and stamping it. If you read what is in the notary block it will say something along the lines of "This person ____ swore to me this day _____ that the contents of this document are true to the best of their knowledge, etc."

The notary public is a publicly held office. You are just not voted in, the government allows your appointment. If something is falsely notarized the notary or the person can be held accountable. Notaries carry insurance to protect themselves against this. Notaries have the same ability to marry and confirm copies and acknowledge and execute documents just like a clerk of the court. Clerk of courts are notaries. My stamp is as good as his. Notaries have rules they follow as to what they can, and can not, sign.

You are correct the notary is NOT a lawyer, and can not give you advice on the document that you are signing. They can ask that you understand it and they can make sure you are in the correct state of mind to execute that document and they can refuse to notarize. They are not just verifying you are the person signing, they are executing a legal document and ensuring that you acknowledge or swear it is true and correct and are in the correct state of mind to do so.

All that being said... If I were the CO I would still be weary of the notary because I am sure it is easy to fake, or you can just pay off a bad notary to stamp whatever you need.
MR2nice
QUOTE(NeverSeen @ Dec 11 2007, 09:38 AM) *
QUOTE
Why get it notarized? Notarizing it only shows that you signed the document and does not authenticate its validity of the document. Notary Publics only make sure the person who is signing the document, is that person... and thats it. Lots of people mistake them for Lawyers or the County Clerk.


I'm a notary, not a lawyer. So take this with a grain of salt because I'm pulling from memory, not statutes.

The notary should be asking you to acknowledge the contents of the document are accurate to the best of your knowledge, or they should be asking you to swear the contents are true prior to them signing and stamping it. If you read what is in the notary block it will say something along the lines of "This person ____ swore to me this day _____ that the contents of this document are true to the best of their knowledge, etc."

The notary public is a publicly held office. You are just not voted in, the government allows your appointment. If something is falsely notarized the notary or the person can be held accountable. Notaries carry insurance to protect themselves against this. Notaries have the same ability to marry and confirm copies and acknowledge and execute documents just like a clerk of the court. Clerk of courts are notaries. My stamp is as good as his. Notaries have rules they follow as to what they can, and can not, sign.

You are correct the notary is NOT a lawyer, and can not give you advice on the document that you are signing. They can ask that you understand it and they can make sure you are in the correct state of mind to execute that document and they can refuse to notarize. They are not just verifying you are the person signing, they are executing a legal document and ensuring that you acknowledge or swear it is true and correct and are in the correct state of mind to do so.

All that being said... If I were the CO I would still be weary of the notary because I am sure it is easy to fake, or you can just pay off a bad notary to stamp whatever you need.


Thanks Neverseen. Was your letter to the CO notarized?
Hien
QUOTE(MR2nice @ Dec 11 2007, 12:44 PM) *
QUOTE(NeverSeen @ Dec 11 2007, 09:38 AM) *
QUOTE
Why get it notarized? Notarizing it only shows that you signed the document and does not authenticate its validity of the document. Notary Publics only make sure the person who is signing the document, is that person... and thats it. Lots of people mistake them for Lawyers or the County Clerk.


I'm a notary, not a lawyer. So take this with a grain of salt because I'm pulling from memory, not statutes.

The notary should be asking you to acknowledge the contents of the document are accurate to the best of your knowledge, or they should be asking you to swear the contents are true prior to them signing and stamping it. If you read what is in the notary block it will say something along the lines of "This person ____ swore to me this day _____ that the contents of this document are true to the best of their knowledge, etc."

The notary public is a publicly held office. You are just not voted in, the government allows your appointment. If something is falsely notarized the notary or the person can be held accountable. Notaries carry insurance to protect themselves against this. Notaries have the same ability to marry and confirm copies and acknowledge and execute documents just like a clerk of the court. Clerk of courts are notaries. My stamp is as good as his. Notaries have rules they follow as to what they can, and can not, sign.

You are correct the notary is NOT a lawyer, and can not give you advice on the document that you are signing. They can ask that you understand it and they can make sure you are in the correct state of mind to execute that document and they can refuse to notarize. They are not just verifying you are the person signing, they are executing a legal document and ensuring that you acknowledge or swear it is true and correct and are in the correct state of mind to do so.

All that being said... If I were the CO I would still be weary of the notary because I am sure it is easy to fake, or you can just pay off a bad notary to stamp whatever you need.


Thanks Neverseen. Was your letter to the CO notarized?


As above, I think notarized or not notarized is not important. The most important is how your wife would answer to the CO. So, your letter may be a guideline for her to answer only. She must be calm enough to answer exactly each question.

They may not want to read your letter. Which evidence they want to check is up to their idea, not ours.

Hien
MR2nice
QUOTE(David-Hien @ Dec 11 2007, 06:36 PM) *
As above, I think notarized or not notarized is not important. The most important is how your wife would answer to the CO. So, your letter may be a guideline for her to answer only. She must be calm enough to answer exactly each question.

They may not want to read your letter. Which evidence they want to check is up to their idea, not ours.

Hien



Thanks Hien. I will go over the letter with her when I go back.
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