Sunday, 02 December 2007
ST. ALBANS CITY— Approximately 200 of the 400 employees at the Citizenship and Immigration Services service center in St. Albans will arrive at work on Monday, sit down at their desk, do the same job they did on Friday, and be paid $1.70 less an our for their work. Until Friday the service center was managed by a group of companies under the umbrella name of Services Center Operating Team (SCOT), including SI International. On Monday, Stanley Associates will take over management of two of the nation’s service centers in Vermont and California. SI International will become the prime contractor at the other two service centers in Nebraska and Texas.
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Full Version: Service Center Wage Cuts
Raise the fees, lower the wages, capitalism at its finest! 
That is unusual 
Wow, that's really shitty. 
Well that should boost morale and motivate them to do a good job.......NOT...... 
So that raises the question, will they decide to do a "half-way" job for the wage cut, or start moving slower, and we will see less approvals coming through?
It seems very odd that they raise the fee's under the guise that it will allow for a more productive process, as well as to add additional employee's, and yet they are lowering the salaries.
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It seems very odd that they raise the fee's under the guise that it will allow for a more productive process, as well as to add additional employee's, and yet they are lowering the salaries.
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poor babies...i just took a 14/hr paycut. ask me if i feel sorry for them.
I guess no one read this part:
Stanley has also introduced a pay incentive plan for December and January. Under the plan the top 50 percent of workers will receive a monthly bonus ranging from $300 to $400.
“What we were essentially trying to do was make sure that if people were in the top 50 percent they will make the same or more than they did before,” Eric Wolking, a Stanley vice president said, adding, “We definitely want to be able to reward the people who are exceptional.”
Stanley has also introduced a pay incentive plan for December and January. Under the plan the top 50 percent of workers will receive a monthly bonus ranging from $300 to $400.
“What we were essentially trying to do was make sure that if people were in the top 50 percent they will make the same or more than they did before,” Eric Wolking, a Stanley vice president said, adding, “We definitely want to be able to reward the people who are exceptional.”
That's so wrong. So take a paycut and then work extra hard to earn the money you used to make plus a bonus that you should've received anyway. 
Diana
Diana
Sounds like a disaster in the making. I'm glad we are past that point. I'll hope and pray for everyone else.
I am always in favor of the incentive system.
The people that Work should make the money. The people that don't should be paid less or fired.
Cut the dead weight.
I wish they would do this with lazy government employees.
Use the extra money to hire extra workers.
The ones that do not perform fire them also. keep only the best!
I hate it when I have to pick up the slack for the lazy jerks at work when we all make the same money. Now that is really unfair!
Pay people what they are worth. If they are worthless! Pay less!
The people that Work should make the money. The people that don't should be paid less or fired.
Cut the dead weight.
I wish they would do this with lazy government employees.
Use the extra money to hire extra workers.
The ones that do not perform fire them also. keep only the best!
I hate it when I have to pick up the slack for the lazy jerks at work when we all make the same money. Now that is really unfair!
Pay people what they are worth. If they are worthless! Pay less!
I'm with you to a point. My feeling is pay needs to be two fold: hourly and performance based. I have never believed in commission only gigs. If a person is required to be at a location specified by the employer, a person deserves compensation for just being there. But from that point, each person should be financially rewarded equal to their actions. Work poorly = minimum pay. Work well = big bucks.
QUOTE(don luce @ Dec 13 2007, 01:00 PM) 
I am always in favor of the incentive system.
The people that Work should make the money. The people that don't should be paid less or fired.
Cut the dead weight.
I wish they would do this with lazy government employees.
Use the extra money to hire extra workers.
The ones that do not perform fire them also. keep only the best!
I hate it when I have to pick up the slack for the lazy jerks at work when we all make the same money. Now that is really unfair!
Pay people what they are worth. If they are worthless! Pay less!
The people that Work should make the money. The people that don't should be paid less or fired.
Cut the dead weight.
I wish they would do this with lazy government employees.
Use the extra money to hire extra workers.
The ones that do not perform fire them also. keep only the best!
I hate it when I have to pick up the slack for the lazy jerks at work when we all make the same money. Now that is really unfair!
Pay people what they are worth. If they are worthless! Pay less!
QUOTE(Kazan @ Dec 13 2007, 10:10 AM)
I'm with you to a point. My feeling is pay needs to be two fold: hourly and performance based. I have never believed in commission only gigs. If a person is required to be at a location specified by the employer, a person deserves compensation for just being there. But from that point, each person should be financially rewarded equal to their actions. Work poorly = minimum pay. Work well = big bucks.
QUOTE(don luce @ Dec 13 2007, 01:00 PM)
I am always in favor of the incentive system.
The people that Work should make the money. The people that don't should be paid less or fired.
Cut the dead weight.
I wish they would do this with lazy government employees.
Use the extra money to hire extra workers.
The ones that do not perform fire them also. keep only the best!
I hate it when I have to pick up the slack for the lazy jerks at work when we all make the same money. Now that is really unfair!
Pay people what they are worth. If they are worthless! Pay less!
The people that Work should make the money. The people that don't should be paid less or fired.
Cut the dead weight.
I wish they would do this with lazy government employees.
Use the extra money to hire extra workers.
The ones that do not perform fire them also. keep only the best!
I hate it when I have to pick up the slack for the lazy jerks at work when we all make the same money. Now that is really unfair!
Pay people what they are worth. If they are worthless! Pay less!
I'm with you
What also the article doesn't mention is that these employees will get a COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) on Jan 1. I don't have any sympathy for them. If they wanted to make more money, they would work in private industry. Most government employees chose to work for the government for other benefits that are not provided by private industry: more holidays and other paid time off, job security, cost of living adjustments every year on top of your annual performance based raise.
QUOTE(ulfie2001 @ Dec 12 2007, 09:37 PM)
I guess no one read this part:
Stanley has also introduced a pay incentive plan for December and January. Under the plan the top 50 percent of workers will receive a monthly bonus ranging from $300 to $400.
"What we were essentially trying to do was make sure that if people were in the top 50 percent they will make the same or more than they did before," Eric Wolking, a Stanley vice president said, adding, "We definitely want to be able to reward the people who are exceptional."
Stanley has also introduced a pay incentive plan for December and January. Under the plan the top 50 percent of workers will receive a monthly bonus ranging from $300 to $400.
"What we were essentially trying to do was make sure that if people were in the top 50 percent they will make the same or more than they did before," Eric Wolking, a Stanley vice president said, adding, "We definitely want to be able to reward the people who are exceptional."
No, I read it and actually I kinda agree w/ it...in principle. We've heard of stories of people's application being all sorts of screwed up because of an "initial data entry" mistake....not to mention the many who have had their whole application returned for incorrect fees when they wrote one check for $1010 while others did the same thing (as the instructions state) and all was good. (These are the duties of the Data Entry Clerks this news story is about).
To me this says there is something not kosher at the initial data entry level of things.....so maybe a little competition....will revive things, so that each person will strive to do the best job possible. End result is more data being entered correctly. I don't agree w/ the cuts in wages,...but then I keep thinking of the many times I read here, that people never got NOAs because of incorrect address entry, or applications getting returned to them because of some dumazz not knowing the new rules/regulations/fees. It causes stress and lost time for the petitioner, so maybe a shake-up is in order there.
Basically....if it is your job, do it without fault and then you have a pot to pizz in when you complain.
-P
QUOTE(Delicia @ Dec 13 2007, 01:19 PM)
What also the article doesn't mention is that these employees will get a COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) on Jan 1. I don't have any sympathy for them. If they wanted to make more money, they would work in private industry. Most government employees chose to work for the government for other benefits that are not provided by private industry: more holidays and other paid time off, job security, cost of living adjustments every year on top of your annual performance based raise.
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This is private industry. They just happen to work for a contractor that has a govt contract to staff the mail rooms at the USCIS Centers and do the initial data entry.
They are not govt employees and do not get a COLA raise in January.
QUOTE(Donna A @ Dec 12 2007, 10:35 PM)
poor babies...i just took a 14/hr paycut. ask me if i feel sorry for them.
I feel your pain. I work for Delta and have taken a 30% pay cut over the last few years...
If I were them, I would be looking for employment elsewhere. I personally don't think it's fair, ESPECIALLY after the fees went so high up last summer.
Diana
Diana
This one is not hard to figure out, OUTSOURCING at its finest! This new company intends to weed out and get rid of the bad or weakest workers by doing this. Then they will slowly restaff with their own hires and own people. This will be interesting to see if this works well or not in a government setting. 
QUOTE(ScottNelyn @ Dec 9 2007, 05:55 PM)
Sunday, 02 December 2007
ST. ALBANS CITY— Approximately 200 of the 400 employees at the Citizenship and Immigration Services service center in St. Albans will arrive at work on Monday, sit down at their desk, do the same job they did on Friday, and be paid $1.70 less an our for their work. Until Friday the service center was managed by a group of companies under the umbrella name of Services Center Operating Team (SCOT), including SI International. On Monday, Stanley Associates will take over management of two of the nation’s service centers in Vermont and California. SI International will become the prime contractor at the other two service centers in Nebraska and Texas.
http://www.samessenger.com/index.php?optio...iew&id=2105
ST. ALBANS CITY— Approximately 200 of the 400 employees at the Citizenship and Immigration Services service center in St. Albans will arrive at work on Monday, sit down at their desk, do the same job they did on Friday, and be paid $1.70 less an our for their work. Until Friday the service center was managed by a group of companies under the umbrella name of Services Center Operating Team (SCOT), including SI International. On Monday, Stanley Associates will take over management of two of the nation’s service centers in Vermont and California. SI International will become the prime contractor at the other two service centers in Nebraska and Texas.
http://www.samessenger.com/index.php?optio...iew&id=2105
That would not be a fun day to come to work and find out that you are not worth as much as before.
QUOTE(desert_fox @ Dec 13 2007, 02:02 PM)
QUOTE(Delicia @ Dec 13 2007, 01:19 PM)
What also the article doesn't mention is that these employees will get a COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) on Jan 1. I don't have any sympathy for them. If they wanted to make more money, they would work in private industry. Most government employees chose to work for the government for other benefits that are not provided by private industry: more holidays and other paid time off, job security, cost of living adjustments every year on top of your annual performance based raise.
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This is private industry. They just happen to work for a contractor that has a govt contract to staff the mail rooms at the USCIS Centers and do the initial data entry.
They are not govt employees and do not get a COLA raise in January.
Correct and by my calculation a clerk (GS-3) starting out with the gov't (before the '08 COLA) would be getting only $11.08 an hour....
I think they are LUCKY ENOUGH to even be getting a job.. there are lots of people without jobs.. 
so they should work hard to improve themselves.. haha, and this is from a government employee too.. I admit, sometimes we do get the time to relax some, but most of the time we work hard (even work hard in getting the job - interview).. so we are rewarded with a good paying job..
so they should work hard to improve themselves.. haha, and this is from a government employee too.. I admit, sometimes we do get the time to relax some, but most of the time we work hard (even work hard in getting the job - interview).. so we are rewarded with a good paying job..
Even if they are working for an outsourcing company, they still get the benefit of a crapload of days off for holidays. I NEVER get MLK day or Pres. day of any of those "little" holidays that the government gets off.
And I agree with the principle of the work bonus. I used to work in a hospital in a department where a bunch of us did the same job. And I was ALWAYS doing jobs that others should have done, but didn't cause they were lazy. For about a year before I quit, I was doing my job, plus 25% of my supervisors job and wasn't getting any extra pay for the supervisors duties. Plus I was picking up slack for the lazy-bones also on my shift who wouldn't do their full job. I tell ya, it really sucks that someone is getting paid the same or more as you and you have to do your job AND theirs.
And I agree with the principle of the work bonus. I used to work in a hospital in a department where a bunch of us did the same job. And I was ALWAYS doing jobs that others should have done, but didn't cause they were lazy. For about a year before I quit, I was doing my job, plus 25% of my supervisors job and wasn't getting any extra pay for the supervisors duties. Plus I was picking up slack for the lazy-bones also on my shift who wouldn't do their full job. I tell ya, it really sucks that someone is getting paid the same or more as you and you have to do your job AND theirs.
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