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jrmach1
Hi guys

I am Catholic since I was born because my whole family is but I have to say no a really good one I haven't been in a church in a long time I pray in my house I don't need to go to a church to find God, and my husband is Christian I guess I will become Christian when I get there I have no problem with that Is the same God to me.

Off course the wedding was a civil wedding so we didn't have to fight about anything: whistle: ok almost anything.

If is a different religion is that getting on your way and costing your trouble or not at all ?

bye

Dili good.gif
JelloShotGirl
my hubby is Catholic much more religious than me, I am Jewish but I believe most in Buddhism's teachings. cool.gif
Sister Fracas
hubster - atheist

me - agnostic with Buddhist/Pagan leanings

No, we aren't religious and even the things we disagree on don't cause any riffs.
Pattu Rani
Hubby is Hindu but thanks to me also prays to Maa Tara now tongue.gif .
I am Hindu and Buddhist and Ganesh is my right hand man.

so we're same same but different... jest.gif

We had a Hindu ceremony but may have a lama bless us either in Nepal or NY.
moody
Same religion and basically the same level of "religiousness".
nin
I am agnostic, he's christian but doesn't like the concept of organized religion.
PlatyPius
I'm sorta Pagan, kinda Agnostic.

Mags is Agnostic, sorta-kinda.

Nessa
answered.
bora bora
My husband was raised Catholic and believes in the faith - yet does not go to church very often.
I was raised in a holy rollers Christian household but do not follow a religion - I believe in God but that's about as far as I'm going.

Mister Fancypants
We're both Catlickers, but she has spent more time 'licking than I have in recent years.

jrmach1
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Nov 28 2007, 11:05 AM) *
We're both Catlickers, but she has spent more time 'licking than I have in recent years.

laughing.gif That's what I need to laugh.
Scott & Lai
We're both devout Christians, Lutheran, specifically.

QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Nov 28 2007, 08:05 AM) *
We're both Catlickers, but she has spent more time 'licking than I have in recent years.

Do you get fur balls a lot? unsure.gif
rika60607
We are agnostics, does it count as "both have the same religion"?
I voted as it was!~
Mister Fancypants
QUOTE(jrmach1 @ Nov 28 2007, 08:09 AM) *
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Nov 28 2007, 11:05 AM) *
We're both Catlickers, but she has spent more time 'licking than I have in recent years.

laughing.gif That's what I need to laugh.



smile.gif We were called all kinds of things as kids. Even my best friend's family, they were Baptists, wonderful people, but they would affectionately call me a Heathen Catholic because of all the statues and pictures of Mary and the saints we had. tongue.gif



QUOTE(Scott & Lai @ Nov 28 2007, 08:36 AM) *
We're both devout Christians, Lutheran, specifically.

QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Nov 28 2007, 08:05 AM) *
We're both Catlickers, but she has spent more time 'licking than I have in recent years.

Do you get fur balls a lot? unsure.gif



Yes. Which is why we go to the confessional....to cough them up.
*Marilyn*
hubby is Catholic but i am Christian but we both aren't very religious....
Kang Lang
we are both buddhists

but i do notice some slight differences in our buddhism which are cultural twists

he's thai and i'm part chinese even the temples are different.
♥JP♥
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 10:04 AM) *
hubby is Catholic but i am Christian but we both aren't very religious....

Why do you think that is different? You both believe in Jesus which are forms of Christianity.
*Marilyn*
QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Nov 28 2007, 11:51 AM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 10:04 AM) *
hubby is Catholic but i am Christian but we both aren't very religious....

Why do you think that is different? You both believe in Jesus which are forms of Christianity.

I never said they were different religions but they are quite different in how they do things etc....
Ms. Squirrel
We are both not religious.

♥JP♥
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 11:59 AM) *
QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Nov 28 2007, 11:51 AM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 10:04 AM) *
hubby is Catholic but i am Christian but we both aren't very religious....

Why do you think that is different? You both believe in Jesus which are forms of Christianity.

I never said they were different religions but they are quite different in how they do things etc....

Yes different sects, same religion. I just asked because I hear that alot. People often get confused because they think I am not a Christian because I am Greek Orthodox.
JODO
We are both Christians.
Parivar CSK
We are both Christians, equally devout.
*Marilyn*
see the difference for me is that with Catholics it seems to be more about rituals and customs and with Christianity it is more about how you live your life...
Pattu Rani
QUOTE(Kang Lang @ Nov 28 2007, 01:35 PM) *
we are both buddhists

but i do notice some slight differences in our buddhism which are cultural twists

he's thai and i'm part chinese even the temples are different.


Thai is Theravada and Chinese is Mahayana - two different 'vehicles'. The basic core beliefs are the same though.
♥JP♥
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 12:16 PM) *
see the difference for me is that with Catholics it seems to be more about rituals and customs and with Christianity it is more about how you live your life...

I complete agree but they are both based on the bible and the teachings of Jesus thats why I consider them the same, same foundation I guess.
Parivar CSK
QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Nov 28 2007, 03:20 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 12:16 PM) *
see the difference for me is that with Catholics it seems to be more about rituals and customs and with Christianity it is more about how you live your life...

I complete agree but they are both based on the bible and the teachings of Jesus thats why I consider them the same, same foundation I guess.


I agree, that they have the same foundation but the way they practice it is different. I am a protestant Christian and the way I do things is much different than a Catholic, but what ties us together would be the beliefs of Jesus, bible, etc. Of course we have differences too. But I have also met Catholics who think they and Christians are not at all the same, and I don't understand that.
♥JP♥
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:24 PM) *
QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Nov 28 2007, 03:20 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 12:16 PM) *
see the difference for me is that with Catholics it seems to be more about rituals and customs and with Christianity it is more about how you live your life...

I complete agree but they are both based on the bible and the teachings of Jesus thats why I consider them the same, same foundation I guess.


I agree, that they have the same foundation but the way they practice it is different. I am a protestant Christian and the way I do things is much different than a Catholic, but what ties us together would be the beliefs of Jesus, bible, etc. Of course we have differences too. But I have also met Catholics who think they and Christians are not at all the same, and I don't understand that.

Me neither, people always give me the oddest look when they find out I am christian. They say, I thought you said you were greek orthodox?
*Marilyn*
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...
Parivar CSK
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).
Omoba
Apostolic Pentecostal both of us.
Sister Fracas
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.
*Marilyn*
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).

see I am going on what I have experienced... hubby's family is Catholic but they are not Christian... to me a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives .. and his family has not done this.. they just like to follow all the rituals etc.. of the Catholic Church...
*Marilyn*
dang, my computer is driving me crazy today.. the internet connection keeps cutting out tongue.gif

anywho, I wanted to add...

I am not saying that Catholics can't be Christians....

Catholicism is a religion

Christianity is a way of life

at least that is how I see it...
Parivar CSK
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.

True, I consider myself non-denominational,lol.

QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).

see I am going on what I have experienced... hubby's family is Catholic but they are not Christian... to me a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives .. and his family has not done this.. they just like to follow all the rituals etc.. of the Catholic Church...


I see what you are saying now, when it's more of a traditional thing but not all aspects are being followed (like what you said about Jesus).
Jenn!
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 03:56 PM) *
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.

True, I consider myself non-denominational,lol.

QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).

see I am going on what I have experienced... hubby's family is Catholic but they are not Christian... to me a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives .. and his family has not done this.. they just like to follow all the rituals etc.. of the Catholic Church...


I see what you are saying now, when it's more of a traditional thing but not all aspects are being followed (like what you said about Jesus).


I've never heard of a Catholic that doesn't consider themselves Christian. A Catholic is Christian by definition. You can say non-practicing Catholic, but likewise you have people who were raised as Protestants who no longer practice. Would they not be considered Christian?
Sister Fracas
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:56 PM) *
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.

True, I consider myself non-denominational,lol.

I thought you were... biggrin.gif
Queen Jenn
Same religion and same level of activity/belief.
Parivar CSK
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 03:58 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 03:56 PM) *
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.

True, I consider myself non-denominational,lol.

QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).

see I am going on what I have experienced... hubby's family is Catholic but they are not Christian... to me a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives .. and his family has not done this.. they just like to follow all the rituals etc.. of the Catholic Church...


I see what you are saying now, when it's more of a traditional thing but not all aspects are being followed (like what you said about Jesus).


I've never heard of a Catholic that doesn't consider themselves Christian. A Catholic is Christian by definition. You can say non-practicing Catholic, but likewise you have people who were raised as Protestants who no longer practice. Would they not be considered Christian?


I guess the way Marilyn means, and I also understand, is the difference between using the word Christian as a traditional label, and then using Christian in the active sense of the word. The bible is more focused on a Christian being someone who is actively seeking out God through Jesus and living a certain way every day. So someone may be a Christian culturally and use that label, but may not actually be living as a Christian, which the bible places the importance on-not the actual label but the behavior and active belief, the "walk the walk not just talk the talk" thing.
A.J.
I always thought Catholic was a type of Christian kind of the same way a Shia is a type of Muslim.
Jenn!
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 04:09 PM) *
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 03:58 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 03:56 PM) *
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.

True, I consider myself non-denominational,lol.

QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).

see I am going on what I have experienced... hubby's family is Catholic but they are not Christian... to me a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives .. and his family has not done this.. they just like to follow all the rituals etc.. of the Catholic Church...


I see what you are saying now, when it's more of a traditional thing but not all aspects are being followed (like what you said about Jesus).


I've never heard of a Catholic that doesn't consider themselves Christian. A Catholic is Christian by definition. You can say non-practicing Catholic, but likewise you have people who were raised as Protestants who no longer practice. Would they not be considered Christian?


I guess the way Marilyn means, and I also understand, is the difference between using the word Christian as a traditional label, and then using Christian in the active sense of the word. The bible is more focused on a Christian being someone who is actively seeking out God through Jesus and living a certain way every day. So someone may be a Christian culturally and use that label, but may not actually be living as a Christian, which the bible places the importance on-not the actual label but the behavior and active belief, the "walk the walk not just talk the talk" thing.


I guess I've never considered the label "Christian" to be anything but describing one's religious beliefs. To me there is not such thing as a Catholic who has not accepted Jesus Christ as his savior. How can someone call themselves Catholic, or Christian for that matter if they don't believe in Jesus?
Parivar CSK
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 04:13 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 04:09 PM) *
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 03:58 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 03:56 PM) *
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.

True, I consider myself non-denominational,lol.

QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).

see I am going on what I have experienced... hubby's family is Catholic but they are not Christian... to me a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives .. and his family has not done this.. they just like to follow all the rituals etc.. of the Catholic Church...


I see what you are saying now, when it's more of a traditional thing but not all aspects are being followed (like what you said about Jesus).


I've never heard of a Catholic that doesn't consider themselves Christian. A Catholic is Christian by definition. You can say non-practicing Catholic, but likewise you have people who were raised as Protestants who no longer practice. Would they not be considered Christian?


I guess the way Marilyn means, and I also understand, is the difference between using the word Christian as a traditional label, and then using Christian in the active sense of the word. The bible is more focused on a Christian being someone who is actively seeking out God through Jesus and living a certain way every day. So someone may be a Christian culturally and use that label, but may not actually be living as a Christian, which the bible places the importance on-not the actual label but the behavior and active belief, the "walk the walk not just talk the talk" thing.


I guess I've never considered the label "Christian" to be anything but describing one's religious beliefs. To me there is not such thing as a Catholic who has not accepted Jesus Christ as his savior. How can someone call themselves Catholic, or Christian for that matter if they don't believe in Jesus?


Good question...but I have met Catholic people who stated they were not "Christians". I think they meant Protestant but they don't realize they(Catholics) are Christians too. It's been people who grew up with Catholic parents so they called themselves that, but never read the bible or hardly ever went to Mass so they know almost nothing about their own beliefs. They also didn't seem to know much about Jesus. So it was more of a label than beliefs.
*Marilyn*
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 12:58 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 03:56 PM) *
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.

True, I consider myself non-denominational,lol.

QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).

see I am going on what I have experienced... hubby's family is Catholic but they are not Christian... to me a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives .. and his family has not done this.. they just like to follow all the rituals etc.. of the Catholic Church...


I see what you are saying now, when it's more of a traditional thing but not all aspects are being followed (like what you said about Jesus).


I've never heard of a Catholic that doesn't consider themselves Christian. A Catholic is Christian by definition. You can say non-practicing Catholic, but likewise you have people who were raised as Protestants who no longer practice. Would they not be considered Christian?

my hubby's family do not consider themselves Christian but Catholic.. their are some relatives in their extended family who are Christian and to them there is a difference between the two..

and like I said I think the true meaning of Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives...

Christianity isn't really a religion in the true context of the word... at least that is what I think

i think a lot of Catholics consider themselves Catholic if their parents are Catholic...
Jenn!
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 04:20 PM) *
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 12:58 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 03:56 PM) *
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 02:33 PM) *
Catholic just says what type of Christian they are.

yes.gif

I've always found this interesting too...when someone says they converted from Catholicism to Christianity...I'm like... wacko.gif

And not only are there various denominational Christians....but non-denominational Christians as well.

True, I consider myself non-denominational,lol.

QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:49 PM) *
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 03:28 PM) *
but you can be Catholic and not be a Christian...

I don't agree...I think people can say that, but a Christian means a follower of Christ...which Catholics are supposed to be also. So some may just see "Christian" as a different term that they don't want to call themselves, but Catholics are technically Christians too. If a Catholic does not know that, then I don't know what their church says or what they think about the bible. I have always thought of Catholics as Christians and we have a local radio station sponsored by the Catholic Diocese nearby, and they call themselves a Christian radio station and call themselves Christians. Catholic just says what type of Christian they are. There are Catholic Christians, and Protestant Christians(which also includes lot of denominations).

see I am going on what I have experienced... hubby's family is Catholic but they are not Christian... to me a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives .. and his family has not done this.. they just like to follow all the rituals etc.. of the Catholic Church...


I see what you are saying now, when it's more of a traditional thing but not all aspects are being followed (like what you said about Jesus).


I've never heard of a Catholic that doesn't consider themselves Christian. A Catholic is Christian by definition. You can say non-practicing Catholic, but likewise you have people who were raised as Protestants who no longer practice. Would they not be considered Christian?

my hubby's family do not consider themselves Christian but Catholic.. their are some relatives in their extended family who are Christian and to them there is a difference between the two..

and like I said I think the true meaning of Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus into their lives...

Christianity isn't really a religion in the true context of the word... at least that is what I think

i think a lot of Catholics consider themselves Catholic if their parents are Catholic...


Well, it seems that they don't really understand Catholicism vs. Protestantism and how that relates to Christianity.

If someone told me they were Catholic but they didn't believe in Jesus, then I think that would just be silly. It would be like saying you were a vegetarian who eats meat.

I did a quick Google search, and there seem to be a few sites that suggest that Catholics are not true Christians. I can't see that this is anything but some sort of anti-Catholic rhetoric.
*Marilyn*
I didn't say they don't believe in Jesus.. but he just isn't apart of their lives unless it is part of some custom or ritual....
Jenn!
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 04:27 PM) *
I didn't say they don't believe in Jesus.. but he just isn't apart of their lives unless it is part of some custom or ritual....


Hmmm, so are you saying that the only true Chrisitians are "born-again" Christians?
*Marilyn*
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 01:28 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 04:27 PM) *
I didn't say they don't believe in Jesus.. but he just isn't apart of their lives unless it is part of some custom or ritual....


Hmmm, so are you saying that the only true Chrisitians are "born-again" Christians?

I am saying that if you go by the true meaning of Christianity..
*Marilyn*
what have I gotten myself into?? laughing.gif

I am not very good at explaining things unsure.gif
Parivar CSK
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 04:28 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 04:27 PM) *
I didn't say they don't believe in Jesus.. but he just isn't apart of their lives unless it is part of some custom or ritual....


Hmmm, so are you saying that the only true Chrisitians are "born-again" Christians?


This is another tricky label. The radio station I mentioned earlier, they do consider themselves born again, and they are Catholic. You can be both. And I know I have said this many times but born again is not a sect, it means you have accepted Jesus as savior and are living daily as a Christian, turning from any old ways that were not pleasing to God. It has been turned into a weird term by those who make it to be something more than that. And Jesus did say you MUST be born again. He meant spiritually, symbolically...so I do believe the only true Christians are born again, but that means they made the decision to daily follow Christ. There are many Catholic ppl who consider themselves also born again. Anyone who has accepted Jesus as savior and is living that way is born again symbolically, it's not a denomination nor a sect, it's an example Jesus talked about to show that you are choosing to live a certain way. The only ppl I have heard talk about the term born again in a creepy way is Catholic ppl when they try to make it sound like the term for "weird" Christians.

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 04:23 PM) *
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I did a quick Google search, and there seem to be a few sites that suggest that Catholics are not true Christians. I can't see that this is anything but some sort of anti-Catholic rhetoric.


You would probably find also many Catholic sites saying Protestants aren't true Christians either. Some people are really bias on those issues. To me a true Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus as savior, follows the bible teachings, etc so whether they call themselves Catholic or Protestant, etc shouldn't matter, what matters is what they believe and how they live. If they don't believe in Jesus or that he was the savior, then they aren't Christians technically since that's core in the beliefs.

Jenn!
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 04:33 PM) *
what have I gotten myself into?? laughing.gif

I am not very good at explaining things unsure.gif


All I have to say is that you're lucky I'm not Catholic! tongue.gif

Is this what you're trying to say? http://www.justforcatholics.org/a19.htm
This is what I was talking about when I said "anti-Catholic rhetoric". Why look for ways to divide rather than uniting under a common belief in Jesus Christ? JMHO.
*Marilyn*
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QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 04:28 PM) *
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Nov 28 2007, 04:27 PM) *
I didn't say they don't believe in Jesus.. but he just isn't apart of their lives unless it is part of some custom or ritual....


Hmmm, so are you saying that the only true Chrisitians are "born-again" Christians?


This is another tricky label. The radio station I mentioned earlier, they do consider themselves born again, and they are Catholic. You can be both. And I know I have said this many times but born again is not a sect, it means you have accepted Jesus as savior and are living daily as a Christian, turning from any old ways that were not pleasing to God. It has been turned into a weird term by those who make it to be something more than that. And Jesus did say you MUST be born again. He meant spiritually, symbolically...so I do believe the only true Christians are born again, but that means they made the decision to daily follow Christ. There are many Catholic ppl who consider themselves also born again. Anyone who has accepted Jesus as savior and is living that way is born again symbolically, it's not a denomination nor a sect, it's an example Jesus talked about to show that you are choosing to live a certain way. The only ppl I have heard talk about the term born again in a creepy way is Catholic ppl when they try to make it sound like the term for "weird" Christians.

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Nov 28 2007, 04:23 PM) *
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I did a quick Google search, and there seem to be a few sites that suggest that Catholics are not true Christians. I can't see that this is anything but some sort of anti-Catholic rhetoric.


You would probably find also many Catholic sites saying Protestants aren't true Christians either. Some people are really bias on those issues. To me a true Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus as savior, follows the bible teachings, etc so whether they call themselves Catholic or Protestant, etc shouldn't matter, what matters is what they believe and how they live. If they don't believe in Jesus or that he was the savior, then they aren't Christians technically since that's core in the beliefs.

phew, you are so much better at this then me, Stina... good.gif i know what I want to say but I can't get the right words out tongue.gif
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