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Ron/Sharon
I was told that if and when the waiver was accepted or granted whichever at Vermont, there would be a second interview at the Montreal consulate, which leaves me under the impression that even if Vermont says yes: Montreal can still say no.
Does ayone know of this happening to a I-601/212(a) or if it is even a possibility.

I know that getting the waiver passed is not a guarentee to get the visa,
SpiritAlight
I wish I had some information to share with you.
I am responding because I want you to know that I can feel where you're at and that I am pulling for you too.
The best thing about this site is the support...although it may not be enough.

I hope someone here knows....



My belief tells me that the consulate and USCIS are there to figure out if a marriage is a sham or if it's real.
The border is there to allow only people they feel are not a threat to that country.
Lona.C.
sorry I dont have the answer , but wanted to say hi and tell you both have been in my toughts
Ron/Sharon
QUOTE(SpiritAlight @ Nov 23 2007, 11:22 AM) *
I wish I had some information to share with you.
I am responding because I want you to know that I can feel where you're at and that I am pulling for you too.
The best thing about this site is the support...although it may not be enough.

I hope someone here knows....



My belief tells me that the consulate and USCIS are there to figure out if a marriage is a sham or if it's real.
The border is there to allow only people they feel are not a threat to that country.

Thank you SpiritAlight
I'm sure that someone will come along and have an answer to the question, which was not very well put in the first place. There are great minds and great people here that will see what it is that I am really asking.

Thank you for your support it is truly appreciated and will be even more so as the months pass.

One thing that is not missing here is support and a willingness to help another out, I wish I were in a better frame of mind so I could do the right thing for others as they have done for us.

In our case they were in my opinion half right in their request but totally wrong in the manner it was done, but that is a tale for another day.

For my last trip to the states in September I think I had to be paroled at the border and they no problem with my entering the States and they (the 11 POE officers) were surprised at the reason for my I-601 and 212

Ron/Sharon
QUOTE(LonaD @ Nov 23 2007, 11:36 AM) *
sorry I dont have the answer , but wanted to say hi and tell you both have been in my toughts

Thank you Lona, I'm doing more reading and less writing here these days. Montreal has taken a lot of air out of our sails. The love is still strong but the communication of that love is waning a bit as our conversations turn daily to quelling concerns rather than continuing to build what we have. Love has taken a back seat to the process and we need to bring it back to the front.

Lona.C.
your very welcome
I just lookd at the waver forum and found some interesting reading , I hope it helps or maybe you could copy and paste your question there , I saw a lot of people in the same situation as you two , good luck ,
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=93943
IR5FORMUMSIE
QUOTE(Ron/Sharon @ Nov 23 2007, 11:06 AM) *
I was told that if and when the waiver was accepted or granted whichever at Vermont, there would be a second interview at the Montreal consulate, which leaves me under the impression that even if Vermont says yes: Montreal can still say no.
Does ayone know of this happening to a I-601/212(a) or if it is even a possibility.

I know that getting the waiver passed is not a guarentee to get the visa,

Ron, everyone who's read of your situation has probably had disquieting thoughts at least once. Hang in there baby. good.gif Once Vermont says yes, Montreal is a formality. I heard that from someone at the USCIS regarding a question about waivers. That's orthopraxy, what might happen at MTL is something else, but given the almost Pavlovian behaviour of the average interviewer, the waiver trumps all. It almost makes me think of the travel permits in the movie Casablanca. No questions will be asked, Mr. Laszlo. smile.gif
Ron/Sharon
QUOTE(LonaD @ Nov 23 2007, 01:04 PM) *
your very welcome
I just lookd at the waver forum and found some interesting reading , I hope it helps or maybe you could copy and paste your question there , I saw a lot of people in the same situation as you two , good luck ,
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=93943


Hi Lona, thanks for the link. I have no problem with border crossing even with what Montreal gave me. I will copy and paste as you suggest. Thanks
Ron/Sharon
QUOTE(IR5FORMUMSIE @ Nov 23 2007, 01:23 PM) *
QUOTE(Ron/Sharon @ Nov 23 2007, 11:06 AM) *
I was told that if and when the waiver was accepted or granted whichever at Vermont, there would be a second interview at the Montreal consulate, which leaves me under the impression that even if Vermont says yes: Montreal can still say no.
Does ayone know of this happening to a I-601/212(a) or if it is even a possibility.

I know that getting the waiver passed is not a guarentee to get the visa,

Ron, everyone who's read of your situation has probably had disquieting thoughts at least once. Hang in there baby. good.gif Once Vermont says yes, Montreal is a formality. I heard that from someone at the USCIS regarding a question about waivers. That's orthopraxy, what might happen at MTL is something else, but given the almost Pavlovian behaviour of the average interviewer, the waiver trumps all. It almost makes me think of the travel permits in the movie Casablanca. No questions will be asked, Mr. Laszlo. smile.gif

Thank you for your answer it helps to know that once approved it is a done thing. It is the something else that I fear at this time because I was told there would a second interview and that to me means if you get it (the waiver) you are still ours and we will find some other reason to make your life miserable. I know that it is foolish but still it is something that is on my mind and it is making our relationship suffer as we don't know where we are regarding our future.
Caladan
Ron, a quick look around the I-601 forum seems to indicate that this is standard procedure, isn't it? There's a second interview, but if the only problem was the reason for the waiver, it should be just a formality.
*Len*
My dear friend,

I have absolutely no clue. A good thing to do here would be to PM kitkat and ask her: she is the Queen of Waivers and super helpful.
How are things? How's Sharon? I've been MIA so don't know what's what.
Peace, L.
Krikit
Ron, you have so many people pulling for you here on VJ that if well wishes could get you approved, you will be here in no time.

You may have already thought about this, but it will make me feel so much better if I put it in writing.... please don't use mouthwash before your next interview. An awful lot of those products are alcohol-based and make some people smell like they've been drinking. Same goes for cologne. Be careful which product you use because some of them also contain alcohol. I just don't want some fanatic making erroneous assumptions about your lifestyle and ruining this next interview for you. There. I feel better now. Good luck! good.gif
Ron/Sharon
QUOTE(Len_and_Bren @ Nov 26 2007, 11:52 AM) *
My dear friend,

I have absolutely no clue. A good thing to do here would be to PM kitkat and ask her: she is the Queen of Waivers and super helpful.
How are things? How's Sharon? I've been MIA so don't know what's what.
Peace, L.

Been keeping my posting on the low end of the scale lately myself. Both Sharon and I have our days since looking at 2009 as the possible year we get an answer to our efforts. Things are going well with us, we just the some time to vent so we will feel better about waiting.
Ron/Sharon
QUOTE(Krikit @ Nov 26 2007, 12:05 PM) *
Ron, you have so many people pulling for you here on VJ that if well wishes could get you approved, you will be here in no time.

You may have already thought about this, but it will make me feel so much better if I put it in writing.... please don't use mouthwash before your next interview. An awful lot of those products are alcohol-based and make some people smell like they've been drinking. Same goes for cologne. Be careful which product you use because some of them also contain alcohol. I just don't want some fanatic making erroneous assumptions about your lifestyle and ruining this next interview for you. There. I feel better now. Good luck! good.gif

I know that everyone that has followed our progress is as we are waiting for the final result and a quick end to this portion of the process.

The alcohol in any form will not be an issue this time as I have done the tests requested that prove they were wrong in their prior observation. I'm hoping that no other issue jumps up that will warrant another waiver or delay.

Debbie a name that we will most likely never forget was the fanatic I met and hope to not meet again. As if it wasn't bad enough to say what she did to others at the consulate she went as far to write it into our file, which is what the doctor found out when she called a CO to find out why I needed a test for alcohol when in her report alcoholism was not an issue.

*Len*
Well brother, PLEASE keep us posted on what gives. I've been keeping a low profile as well lately (can only take so much racial hate everyday huh.gif ) Love to you both.
L.
~Laura and Nick~
QUOTE(Len_and_Bren @ Nov 26 2007, 03:59 PM) *
Well brother, PLEASE keep us posted on what gives. I've been keeping a low profile as well lately (can only take so much racial hate everyday huh.gif ) Love to you both.
L.


Exactly my thoughts.
I think of you often and wonder how things are going. I know this has been so hard on you both.
Please keep us posted.
We are all here for you and Sharon.
rose.gif
zyggy
No... USCIS is in control of waivers, not the consulate. Unless the consulate can find something else that would render you inadmissible...

Ron/Sharon
QUOTE(zyggy @ Nov 26 2007, 05:40 PM) *
No... USCIS is in control of waivers, not the consulate. Unless the consulate can find something else that would render you inadmissible...

Thank you zyggy, that is my kind of biggest concern since there is so much that can be picked at and since I did get a valid I-601 for a 32 year offense and a suspect 212 or 221 for smelling of alcohol at the interview after being sober for the now past 23 years, I am sure they will be taking a very close look at everything else. By the time they do thier thing a of our timed documents will be well out of date. I did ask if I needed new documents and was told we will tell you then what you need to bring.
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