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phatmadame81
Hi all,
Thanks for assisting me in this process, I really appreciat all your response to my questions even though the may seem like they are wacko.gif .

After waiting for a week I finally got my NOA1 on April 13 after sending out the petition on April 3, 2006.
I have the I129F documents copied and ready to be sent to the P.O Box , but before I sent it off I stop by to check on the check to see if it had cash for the I130. Well to my surprise my bank told me that a freeze was out on my account and the check was not cashed due to that (the freeze makes my cash unavailable to me). My question to you is
1. Can I still go ahead and send out the I129F even though the check was not honored?

I really want to send off the I129F and when the check is return I will pay the $30 plus the $190 fee for the petition or I can't do it like that? Has anyone ever been in this situation? Please help me out.
Do you think I will be getting a denied on the I130 or I will get an RFE. I really need someone to help me out with this . helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif
arwensun1965
I think your best bet is to speak to the bank manager and get your account clear. I do not think you can do the I-129F the way you have suggested. Sorry.

Janice
MaryandMian
QUOTE(arwensun1965 @ Apr 17 2006, 03:06 PM) *

I think your best bet is to speak to the bank manager and get your account clear. I do not think you can do the I-129F the way you have suggested. Sorry.

Janice




I agree get the banking taken care of and then submit the other forms. Good luck.

Mary
babybunny
how did your account get frozen? was it one of those security check things?
babybunny
how did your account get frozen? was it one of those security check things?

I used money orders it works my nerve waiting for checks to clear.
I refuse to use checks..
sjoefl01
Let me get this straight. Surely I am reading this post incorrectly.

Are you saying that you wrote a hot check to the USCIS for an I30, and asking if you can write them another hot check for an I129?

I must have read this wrong. Surely nobody can think this way.
phatmadame81
QUOTE(shonjaved @ Apr 17 2006, 04:29 PM) *

how did your account get frozen? was it one of those security check things?

I used money orders it works my nerve waiting for checks to clear.
I refuse to use checks..


Thank you all for your comments. I really wanted to know if I could use the NOA1 that I had recieved to file the I129f thanks for clearing that up.

No it was not a security check that froze my account, a stupid debt collector figured they weren't getting paid fast enough so they froze my account ( the good thing is they couldn't just take my money out).
I got in touch wit hthem they got a good piece of my mind and the bank is gonna unfreeze my account the thing is it takes 48 hours so I have to wait until Wednesday.
I am not sending no more checks- from now on I will only be using money orders. First thing Thursday mornig I am gonna go and get two money orders one for $190 and the other for $30.

Thanks again.
phatmadame81
QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 17 2006, 06:57 PM) *

Let me get this straight. Surely I am reading this post incorrectly.

Are you saying that you wrote a hot check to the USCIS for an I30, and asking if you can write them another hot check for an I129?

I must have read this wrong. Surely nobody can think this way.


sjoefl01,
If you had read the post you would have seen that I had more than sufficient money to post that check in the first place. It was not until this morning that the freeze was put on my account. Do you think I would be so inconsiderate as to send a check to the govenment knowing full well that I cannot pay for it. That is ludacris, this is my husbands well being. I sent the check knowing that I had more than enough in either of my accounts. I am not a cheater you really read the post incorrectly. Why is it that everyone saw that it was a mishap but you had to think I 'wrote a hot check' . Writing 'hot checks' is not something I would do and furthermore when it comes to the government (USCIS, IRS) I ain't stupid enough to mess around and write a 'hot check'. no0pb.gif no0pb.gif
sjoefl01
I am sorry if you took offense to my comments. I have read your original post several times and see no mention of multiple bank accounts with loads of money in them. We will chalk this one up to language barriers and ignorance on my part. Sorry!!!
I have a few rental properties and every time somebody writes me a hot check they try to blame the bank or say they have some sort of freeze on their account that they did not know about. Most people blame the IRS! Sorry I let my real life experience influence my internet advice!



QUOTE(desperatewife @ Apr 17 2006, 06:39 PM) *

QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 17 2006, 06:57 PM) *

Let me get this straight. Surely I am reading this post incorrectly.

Are you saying that you wrote a hot check to the USCIS for an I30, and asking if you can write them another hot check for an I129?

I must have read this wrong. Surely nobody can think this way.


sjoefl01,
If you had read the post you would have seen that I had more than sufficient money to post that check in the first place. It was not until this morning that the freeze was put on my account. Do you think I would be so inconsiderate as to send a check to the govenment knowing full well that I cannot pay for it. That is ludacris, this is my husbands well being. I sent the check knowing that I had more than enough in either of my accounts. I am not a cheater you really read the post incorrectly. Why is it that everyone saw that it was a mishap but you had to think I 'wrote a hot check' . Writing 'hot checks' is not something I would do and furthermore when it comes to the government (USCIS, IRS) I ain't stupid enough to mess around and write a 'hot check'. no0pb.gif no0pb.gif

phatmadame81
QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 20 2006, 09:56 PM) *

I am sorry if you took offense to my comments. I have read your original post several times and see no mention of multiple bank accounts with loads of money in them. We will chalk this one up to language barriers and ignorance on my part. Sorry!!!
I have a few rental properties and every time somebody writes me a hot check they try to blame the bank or say they have some sort of freeze on their account that they did not know about. Most people blame the IRS! Sorry I let my real life experience influence my internet advice!



QUOTE(desperatewife @ Apr 17 2006, 06:39 PM) *

QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 17 2006, 06:57 PM) *

Let me get this straight. Surely I am reading this post incorrectly.

Are you saying that you wrote a hot check to the USCIS for an I30, and asking if you can write them another hot check for an I129?

I must have read this wrong. Surely nobody can think this way.


sjoefl01,
If you had read the post you would have seen that I had more than sufficient money to post that check in the first place. It was not until this morning that the freeze was put on my account. Do you think I would be so inconsiderate as to send a check to the govenment knowing full well that I cannot pay for it. That is ludacris, this is my husbands well being. I sent the check knowing that I had more than enough in either of my accounts. I am not a cheater you really read the post incorrectly. Why is it that everyone saw that it was a mishap but you had to think I 'wrote a hot check' . Writing 'hot checks' is not something I would do and furthermore when it comes to the government (USCIS, IRS) I ain't stupid enough to mess around and write a 'hot check'. no0pb.gif no0pb.gif



That is ok, but it is the truth. I got a little heated about that because I felt you were judging me. I too will chalked it up to a misunderstandin through communication and move on. Ain't it funny how one person will say something with mo intention of offenind the other but no matter what communication on the internet can be mistaken to mean other things.

Well, just a heads up I have been touched numerous times but stillno letter from Homeland security or USCIS. I am really getting impatient and want to send out my I129f . I spoke to a represenative via the USCIS hotline and even though the first one I spoke to informed me that I could go ahead and mail the I129F I did not do it. The second one told be it is best to wait until I get a return letter about the payment,in hopes that if Isend outthe I129F it does not get denied due to unpayment of the I130.
In all retrospect I really want to mail the I129F, I know in the get go the opinion of those on here was to wait but I am so impatient do you think I could use the NAO1 I have and send off the I129F ( with Money order)? helpsmilie.gif
sjoefl01
I think you only need to wait till the check clears your bank. You don't get anything from USCIS after the NOA1 until you are RFE'd, approved, or denied. There will be no letter to confirm that they have been paid.

Was the check returned to USCIS or was it simply put on hold until the account was restored?

I also suspect that the person at USCIS was correct. If I were you I would probably file the I 129 with a money order.
phatmadame81
QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 22 2006, 04:42 PM) *

I think you only need to wait till the check clears your bank. You don't get anything from USCIS after the NOA1 until you are RFE'd, approved, or denied. There will be no letter to confirm that they have been paid.

Was the check returned to USCIS or was it simply put on hold until the account was restored?

I also suspect that the person at USCIS was correct. If I were you I would probably file the I 129 with a money order.



I never thought ot ask teh bank if they are holding it or if they returned the check. I guess I will wait until Monday to call the bank and find out.

You dont think they will deny the I129F because the I130 was not paid ? The USCIS should be sending me a letter requesting payment, right? I dont think that they would try to process it without payment- I really hope they dont try to .
sjoefl01
We can all only guess about what they will do if the bank returned the check to them. I don't remember a case where this has happened here. Hopefully the bank will tell you on Monday that the check has cleared and USCIS has been paid.
There have been many cases where people sent the worng amount. In those cases the USCIS sends the entire package back. This happens before the NOA is sent. In your case I don't have a clue what they will do if the check has been returned to them. Perhaps they will just run it through the bank again. We can only guess about this.
phatmadame81
QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 23 2006, 10:31 AM) *

We can all only guess about what they will do if the bank returned the check to them. I don't remember a case where this has happened here. Hopefully the bank will tell you on Monday that the check has cleared and USCIS has been paid.
There have been many cases where people sent the worng amount. In those cases the USCIS sends the entire package back. This happens before the NOA is sent. In your case I don't have a clue what they will do if the check has been returned to them. Perhaps they will just run it through the bank again. We can only guess about this.


Hi thnaks for your answer. I will wait until Monday and see what they say.
Thanks agian.
Laura_and_IanM
hiya...right sorry to hear about your circumstances. hopefully this may help and i dont think anyone has thought of this, but in my past experiences with banks, if a check has been denied once for insufficient funds, the bank typically runs it through again. Checks when denied the first time are run through again. Because the account has been frozen, it will be upto you to call the bank and speak to them about what happens when accounts are frozen. I would think that because it wasnt a matter of insufficient funds, it would be cleared up without any penalties. Just call the bank asap and find out.

Laura
phatmadame81
QUOTE(ljwinquist @ Apr 24 2006, 03:26 AM) *

hiya...right sorry to hear about your circumstances. hopefully this may help and i dont think anyone has thought of this, but in my past experiences with banks, if a check has been denied once for insufficient funds, the bank typically runs it through again. Checks when denied the first time are run through again. Because the account has been frozen, it will be upto you to call the bank and speak to them about what happens when accounts are frozen. I would think that because it wasnt a matter of insufficient funds, it would be cleared up without any penalties. Just call the bank asap and find out.

Laura



Hi,
thanks for your response jwinquist. I took your avdvice but fo rsome reason they cant give me a straight answer at the bank. After this week I am gonna close them too much head ache-these petition is about the most I can take right now.


You know what else is getting me sick and tired, the USCIS keeps touching my I130 and still I have not gotten the return check as of this day. If I dont get it by Friday I am gonna send of the I129f with the Money order. Patience is a virtue and mine is running out. innocent.gif
sjoefl01
That must be one sorry bank if they can't tell you if one of your checks has cleared. I agree with you. I would find another bank also.
phatmadame81
QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 24 2006, 09:36 PM) *

That must be one sorry bank if they can't tell you if one of your checks has cleared. I agree with you. I would find another bank also.



I finally have one of the accounts unfrozen, the bank claims to be working on unfreezing the other. It is 2 days to Friday, I am gonna take tie I129F to make copies of the files. I will also keep eveyone up to date on what happens about the check and the I130. Still wondering is it gonna be a RFE or are they gonna return everything and i have to refile with the Monenyorder?????????????
Can only keep my fingers cross.
sjoefl01
I'm sorry. I am trying to walk away from this post but I can't help but wonder about it. There is nothing classified about checking the status of a check that you have written. If the bank can't tell you if the check has cleared or if it has been returned then you should not do business with them. The check is yours, the account is yours, and the money is yours. There is no reason for them to be secretive about your account. I really wish I was there for you. I would know in about 5 seconds if the check had been paid or if it had been returned.
Don't let them bullshit you. The money you have in any account should be accountable on a moments notice. That is the nature of an American bank!
I really don't think you are being straight with us.
phatmadame81
QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 26 2006, 10:22 PM) *

I'm sorry. I am trying to walk away from this post but I can't help but wonder about it. There is nothing classified about checking the status of a check that you have written. If the bank can't tell you if the check has cleared or if it has been returned then you should not do business with them. The check is yours, the account is yours, and the money is yours. There is no reason for them to be secretive about your account. I really wish I was there for you. I would know in about 5 seconds if the check had been paid or if it had been returned.
Don't let them bullshit you. The money you have in any account should be accountable on a moments notice. That is the nature of an American bank!
I really don't think you are being straight with us.



I am being very straight, it was the following week after when the bank finally had information pertaining to the check. Since then I have changed banks and is now starting over withtheis new bank, I hope later in the process they wont give me a hsard time wheni I tryto get there information for the Affidative of Support.

Just and update, my case has been progressing I have been touched numerous times has you can see from my timeline. I finally got to call the vermont service center adn I got an invoice for the $190 + $30 processing fee. I have 30 days to pay which is ok because I am sending out the moneyorder this Friday along with the I129F.
So just for future reference if payment is not initially paid the service center sends and invoice for the payment they give you 30 days to pay.
Until I the next 5-10 months (VSC as really slowed down).
sjoefl01
Excellent news. I just don't think anybody here knew what to tell you. We don't know the returned check policy of USICS. I am glad you got this worked out. hopefully the rest of your process will go quickly.
phatmadame81
QUOTE(desperatewife @ May 10 2006, 07:52 PM) *

QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ Apr 26 2006, 10:22 PM) *

I'm sorry. I am trying to walk away from this post but I can't help but wonder about it. There is nothing classified about checking the status of a check that you have written. If the bank can't tell you if the check has cleared or if it has been returned then you should not do business with them. The check is yours, the account is yours, and the money is yours. There is no reason for them to be secretive about your account. I really wish I was there for you. I would know in about 5 seconds if the check had been paid or if it had been returned.
Don't let them bullshit you. The money you have in any account should be accountable on a moments notice. That is the nature of an American bank!
I really don't think you are being straight with us.



I am being very straight, it was the following week after when the bank finally had information pertaining to the check. Since then I have changed banks and is now starting over withtheis new bank, I hope later in the process they wont give me a hsard time wheni I tryto get there information for the Affidative of Support.

Just and update, my case has been progressing I have been touched numerous times has you can see from my timeline. I finally got to call the vermont service center adn I got an invoice for the $190 + $30 processing fee. I have 30 days to pay which is ok because I am sending out the moneyorder this Friday along with the I129F.
So just for future reference if payment is not initially paid the service center sends and invoice for the payment they give you 30 days to pay.
Until I the next 5-10 months (VSC as really slowed down).


THanks I really hope it will go smoothly too, I have a question it does not relate to this but I figure I already have an active topic so continue:
My husband is still in his home country ( Jamaica) and he want to go on vacation in the summer to Canada. I am aware that once the petition is in place the vistor visa is no longer valid. I know he can't enter teh US but can he atleast go to Canada?
sjoefl01
There is nothing in the American visa rules that prevents either of you from going to Canada. As long as Canada doesn't have a problem you are free to travel anywhere but here.
phatmadame81
QUOTE(sjoefl01 @ May 11 2006, 05:54 PM) *

There is nothing in the American visa rules that prevents either of you from going to Canada. As long as Canada doesn't have a problem you are free to travel anywhere but here.


Thanks alot.
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