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I will be cancelling my K1 application; my fiancee will not be able to come to America for private reasons I prefer not to discuss; but we are still committed to each other. I am discussing with her the prospect of my moving to Russia or maybe getting married in Russia and looking for an acceptable country (spain, germany, england, etc) to move on a work visa.

anyone have any knowledge how hard it is for a married Russian citizen to an American to move to other countries outside Russia. I would get a work visa and I would want her to go with me as my wife.
russ
QUOTE(John & Alla @ Nov 14 2007, 07:34 PM) *
I will be cancelling my K1 application; my fiancee will not be able to come to America for private reasons I prefer not to discuss; but we are still committed to each other. I am discussing with her the prospect of my moving to Russia or maybe getting married in Russia and looking for an acceptable country (spain, germany, england, etc) to move on a work visa.

anyone have any knowledge how hard it is for a married Russian citizen to an American to move to other countries outside Russia. I would get a work visa and I would want her to go with me as my wife.


I used to live in Holland, very easy. You have two options for moving there:

1) Get a job paying over 35,000 EUR. No work visa required, automatic residency. This will automatically apply to your wife immediately. (She would just go to city hall and have a residence permit put in her passport the same day)

2) Start a business in Holland. Put about 20,000 EUR in a bank account there, and pay the business guild a few thousand bucks. This also qualifies you for residence. Your wife also gets legal residence immediately. The "Dutch-America Friendship Act" is what you want to look into.

Either way, no months/years of waiting like in the US.

You also get something called the "30% rule" in Holland - 30% of your income is tax free, for 10 years. This rule also lets you get a driver's license there without having to take a test in Dutch. (You don't need to speak Dutch to live there, huge expat community.)

I wouldn't seriously consider Russia, Western Europe will be much better for both of you.

I don't know what you do for work, but please PM me, I may have some leads for you.
Kazan' Tiger
Sorry to hear about your siruation. I can say that my Alla & I had a situation in 2005. She did not want to come here for some reasons too. I moved to Russia in 2006 to prove my committment to her and our relationship. At the end of a year, she was convinced that not only was she very wrong in her initial decision, but she could see how difficult it was for me to try and live in a republic that would have made it very difficult for me to stay on a permanent basis. She now looks forward to coming here with great pleasure.
Turboguy
When our visa applicatin was in A/R and it looked like it could be years before we got our visa we looked at the option of relocating somewhere together. Sochi, Holland, Grenada and Barbados were the options we looked at the hardest and had our visa not come through Grenada was going to be our choice. I would probably be there right now had the visa situation not changed.

I belive Holland has gotten a little more difficult than it was but is still a good choice. They have info on thier website as I recall.
KGSodie
Although it is painful to hear that your visa must be canceled, it is very good to hear that your relationship is still strong. It sounds like many people have good advice and I hope it is able to help you, and I wish you both the best of luck in the future.
visceral image
Thanks my friends; situations change and life throws curves; but we love each other and we are committed to a life together. she wants to come to america but there are other problems I can not discuss; so we will find other ways to be together. We are now planning our wedding for this spring in Russia and I am studying the visa regulations in Holland.
Chuckles
QUOTE(John & Alla @ Nov 16 2007, 04:38 PM) *
Thanks my friends; situations change and life throws curves; but we love each other and we are committed to a life together. she wants to come to america but there are other problems I can not discuss; so we will find other ways to be together. We are now planning our wedding for this spring in Russia and I am studying the visa regulations in Holland.



Like you said, life changes. Don't cancel that K1 and lose all your time until you are sure. Exploring other ideas or finding situations that more suit your lifestyle are great ideas, but I suggest keeping that K-1 going in the background.
Satellite
QUOTE(Chuckles @ Nov 17 2007, 09:38 AM) *
Don't cancel that K1 and lose all your time until you are sure. Exploring other ideas or finding situations that more suit your lifestyle are great ideas, but I suggest keeping that K-1 going in the background.
Great advise, I would add that you should go through the whole process of getting on. Once the visa is in hand you have an additional 6 months to decide if you want to use it.
russ
QUOTE(Satellite @ Nov 17 2007, 12:40 PM) *
Great advise, I would add that you should go through the whole process of getting on. Once the visa is in hand you have an additional 6 months to decide if you want to use it.


Agreed - if there is any chance you will change your mind, a K-1 doesn't commit you to anything. You can certainly pursue moving to Holland (or anywere else) at the same time.

Don't know the details of your motivation for doing this, but feel free to PM me with more information.
Kotenochek
Do not cancell k1 because if she holds k1 to the usa it will be way easier to get another visa to europe.she could have a student visa after prepaying some language courses i lived in holland working there and many friends were applying for students visa,same in UK-London has bunch of language schools.
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