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neel06
my husband had his interview at NEW DELHI. he did not receive the visa because they said our I-134 was not accurate. I used my uncle as our co-sponsor and he is a doctor. his income is over 290,000 dollars, and he is able to support over 20 people. however, they said that they have to have his wife's signature on the same I-134 or or on a separate I-134. they file jointly I AM SHOCKED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

the WORST PART IS THAT MY AUNT IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND WON'T BE BACK FOR 2 MONTHS...SO I CAN'T EVEN GET HER SIGNATURE.

i can have my other uncle's I-134 shipped overnight...but they specifically said they wan't my aunt's.. is there a way i can get this changed. NEW DELHI IS HARASSING PEOPLE.




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Omoba
Can you DHL the form to her to sign and have her return it as soon as possible ?
Haole
QUOTE(neel06 @ Nov 5 2007, 07:38 PM) *
my husband had his interview at NEW DELHI. he did not receive the visa because they said our I-134 was not accurate. I used my uncle as our co-sponsor and he is a doctor. his income is over 290,000 dollars, and he is able to support over 20 people. however, they said that they have to have his wife's signature on the same I-134 or or on a separate I-134. they file jointly I AM SHOCKED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

the WORST PART IS THAT MY AUNT IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND WON'T BE BACK FOR 2 MONTHS...SO I CAN'T EVEN GET HER SIGNATURE.

i can have my other uncle's I-134 shipped overnight...but they specifically said they wan't my aunt's.. is there a way i can get this changed. NEW DELHI IS HARASSING PEOPLE.




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Nothing you can do but do as they asked! If that's what they want ! Give it to them.
neel06
my aunt won't be back till dec and the date of my K-3 expires on nov 30th........... oh God help meeeeee
neel06
they kept all his documents...just returned him the passport and the sheet of paper asking for the co-sponsor's wife's signature...even though she makes nothing.... she is a homemaker. i am shocked how badly NEW DELHI is handling cases.
zolanden
QUOTE(neel06 @ Nov 6 2007, 08:18 AM) *
they kept all his documents...just returned him the passport and the sheet of paper asking for the co-sponsor's wife's signature...even though she makes nothing.... she is a homemaker. i am shocked how badly NEW DELHI is handling cases.


Neel.you are in my prayers and wish you luck!
C and J
Good luck with this Neel06, you are in my thoughts... You say that she is gone until December. If she's on holiday (or just away from home) can't the documents be shipped to an address where she is? Surely it would be worth it to try to get the documents signed urgently.

When I asked about the expiration date of the I129F NOA2 (I was worried that the small amount of time it gives wouldn't cover the whole process), Pushbrk kindly told me that the embassy's can and generally do extend the expiration date. If you are worried about it expiring, then you might want to contact the embassy and ask them about their procedure.
kimmbo
Can you not get the papers to your aunt even though she is out of country, have her sign the papers, send them back to you, then you get them back to your husband...?

or, is it possible for you to use a completely different joint sponsor?

wishing you the best of luck!
jasman0717
QUOTE(Omoba @ Nov 5 2007, 09:50 PM) *
Can you DHL the form to her to sign and have her return it as soon as possible ?



good.gif Take your time and think it through. I am sure you can come up with a solution Good luck
Urge To Race
Consulate can and will extend the validity of your I129F approval if needed.
QUOTE(neel06 @ Nov 6 2007, 01:44 AM) *
my aunt won't be back till dec and the date of my K-3 expires on nov 30th........... oh God help meeeeee

rebeccajo
Your other option is to speak to the consulate yourself.

This is the second incident in a week where I have read of strange requests out of New Delhi, both involving the tax return or the affidavit of support.

Before I made any contact with them, I would collect my thoughts and calm down. Ask to speak to a supervising officer about your husband's case. Speak clearly, courteously, concisely but with conviction. Do not become emotional or accuse them of harassing people.

I'm thinking there's a new CO on board. Or one who is a hard a$$.
Urge To Race
They extend it for K1s all the time when they can't get the interview in. You might want to notify them if it will take that long to get the documents signed. You might also want to ask if you can switch sponsors altogether to your other uncle. Good luck! good.gif
QUOTE(Urge To Race @ Nov 6 2007, 09:13 AM) *
Consulate can and will extend the validity of your I129F approval if needed.
QUOTE(neel06 @ Nov 6 2007, 01:44 AM) *
my aunt won't be back till dec and the date of my K-3 expires on nov 30th........... oh God help meeeeee


ELW
That is awful Neel06! cray5ol.gif

It is true Delhi is famous for harassing people and requesting really ridiculous things. protest6wz.gif But all you can do at this point is try to provide what they want.

I agree with the others, surely your aunt will have an address somewhere, you can courier her the papers and get them back within a week. Can your uncle call her and get the temp address for you?

Also, there is protocol for extending the approval of I-129F, maybe it is similar for the K3, the link on VJ is here:

Extending Approval

Here is the example: Click to view attachment

We send our prayers to you for a successful approval as soon as possible. rose.gif
maya62
Here's a hare-brained suggestion, but you never know...

Perhaps there is a US Consulate in the country where your aunt is. Perhaps she could stop in there, fill out the document, and have them fax it to New Delhi.

Just a thought...

Good luck!

Maya
kalina
Oh Neel, very sorry to hear this. I can't believe that this is possible. This people think that they are God maybe. Wish you to overcome this situation soon. Once your husband come in the USA you will forget quickly this nightmare. Hang in there. You are almost at the final.
LvivLovers
Sorry to hear about this, but don't give up. Yes, they make us jump through all sorts of hoops, but don't try to fight it. Just get the signature you need...there has to be a way to do this. It's a terrible process, but you can get through it. Just remember you are at the very end, and not at the beginning, so don't get too down.
neel06
called department of state... according to them there is NO ISSUE WITH MY I-134. everything is in order and they are just waiting to check his fingerprints they took and then issue him a visa...

I told them that they did not even keep his passport they told him to submit it along with the co-sponsor's wife's I-134. So, the department of state is going to fax the new delhi embassy on my behalf and ask them what the heck is going on.... they told my husband something else and they are telling them something else.

my husband said the local guy was the one who was refusing to hear him out and the one who is this trouble because of.
My Honey
QUOTE(neel06 @ Nov 6 2007, 02:28 PM) *
called department of state... according to them there is NO ISSUE WITH MY I-134. everything is in order and they are just waiting to check his fingerprints they took and then issue him a visa...

I told them that they did not even keep his passport they told him to submit it along with the co-sponsor's wife's I-134. So, the department of state is going to fax the new delhi embassy on my behalf and ask them what the heck is going on.... they told my husband something else and they are telling them something else.

my husband said the local guy was the one who was refusing to hear him out and the one who is this trouble because of.


Good luck Neel06 with your situation. There just seams there is always someone out there that has to make it more difficult than what it actually is. Hang in there you are almost there... Best of luck! smile.gif
neel06
don't know what to do guys. my aunt is exploring nepal and bangladesh with her family. i have no way to contact her. new delhi embassy is being so irresponsible. all they have to do is look through my uncle's tax papers and see that he makes enough money individually that his wife's I-134 is useless.

for goodness sake my uncle's last year''s gross income was 298,000 and he paid over 50 thousand in taxes.

i am hoping that the department of state steps on my behalf and questions the stupidness of the embassy's judgement.
seriously, i have lost all the faith in the system. i always believed that these governmental departments were created for people not vice versa.
ELW
Delhi Consulate is so messed up, the Consulate Officer there is VERY irresponsible! Hopefully the Department of State will give some support and the matter can be resolved. Obviously your co-sponsor makes plenty of money and I would think a jointly filed return would be fine with only one signature.

Keep us informed, we're praying that it will be worked out ASAP! rose.gif
jasman0717
QUOTE(maya62 @ Nov 6 2007, 07:00 AM) *
Here's a hare-brained suggestion, but you never know...

Perhaps there is a US Consulate in the country where your aunt is. Perhaps she could stop in there, fill out the document, and have them fax it to New Delhi.

Just a thought...

Good luck!

Maya


That soundd feasible good.gif
neel06
thanks for your encouraging remarks. i feel so lost. i will contact department of state tomorrow morning.. pray for me that they have some good news for me.

otherwise i have to figure out how to have my co-sponsor's wife do an I-134 because she doesn't qualify to sponsor anyone.. so i don't know how is that of their use.

more than sad.. i am just ANGRY. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

i mean why can't they hire people who can look through tax papers and figure out who makes what.....
Jas S
QUOTE(neel06 @ Nov 7 2007, 12:08 AM) *
thanks for your encouraging remarks. i feel so lost. i will contact department of state tomorrow morning.. pray for me that they have some good news for me.

otherwise i have to figure out how to have my co-sponsor's wife do an I-134 because she doesn't qualify to sponsor anyone.. so i don't know how is that of their use.

more than sad.. i am just ANGRY. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

i mean why can't they hire people who can look through tax papers and figure out who makes what.....


Neel, read the messages I sent to you. Tackle this problem head on, don't be confused...be focused.
Alt name
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Nov 6 2007, 10:19 AM) *
Your other option is to speak to the consulate yourself.

This is the second incident in a week where I have read of strange requests out of New Delhi, both involving the tax return or the affidavit of support.

Before I made any contact with them, I would collect my thoughts and calm down. Ask to speak to a supervising officer about your husband's case. Speak clearly, courteously, concisely but with conviction. Do not become emotional or accuse them of harassing people.

I'm thinking there's a new CO on board. Or one who is a hard a$$.

Alt name
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Nov 6 2007, 10:19 AM) *
Your other option is to speak to the consulate yourself.

This is the second incident in a week where I have read of strange requests out of New Delhi, both involving the tax return or the affidavit of support.

Before I made any contact with them, I would collect my thoughts and calm down. Ask to speak to a supervising officer about your husband's case. Speak clearly, courteously, concisely but with conviction. Do not become emotional or accuse them of harassing people.

I'm thinking there's a new CO on board. Or one who is a hard a$$.

ara
Sorry to hear about your situation. You are in my thoughts and prayers that you will get this resolved soon heart.gif
SilverFuel
However messed up it may feel i think there maybe some merit to this and something for all of us going behind to note.

I was just trying to figure out the reasons for the signature of the sponsor's wife.

Guessing here now. Basically the sponsor swears that he will take financial care of the beneficiary and would not let them be a charge of the state. Now if the sponsor is filing his tax jointly and/or a lot of his assets are "joint" to his wife, the wife's consent may also be needed. Since the financial assets can be construed as "joint" and hence a joint approval is needed.

Now i dont know if this is the usual practice or something new or something this particular CO or consulate is doing. Makes sense from a purely financial/tax perspective but who knows what their rules are. But going forward it maybe a safe bet to get signatures of both the husband and wife if using a sponsor who files taxes jointly. I rather have the extra signature on the front-end.

What you guys think?
C and J
QUOTE(SilverFuel @ Nov 7 2007, 03:33 PM) *
However messed up it may feel i think there maybe some merit to this and something for all of us going behind to note.

I was just trying to figure out the reasons for the signature of the sponsor's wife.

Guessing here now. Basically the sponsor swears that he will take financial care of the beneficiary and would not let them be a charge of the state. Now if the sponsor is filing his tax jointly and/or a lot of his assets are "joint" to his wife, the wife's consent may also be needed. Since the financial assets can be construed as "joint" and hence a joint approval is needed.

Now i dont know if this is the usual practice or something new or something this particular CO or consulate is doing. Makes sense from a purely financial/tax perspective but who knows what their rules are. But going forward it maybe a safe bet to get signatures of both the husband and wife if using a sponsor who files taxes jointly. I rather have the extra signature on the front-end.

What you guys think?


You're right, it does seem to make sense from a financial PoV.

I think the problem is that they waited until the "final hour" to tell Neel06 that it was needed. If there was information or guidelines readily available regarding sponsors having joint-filed taxes, then Neel06 could have covered this base and not be having this issue now.
neel06
guys its even more confusing now...

the consulate told my husband- he needs to submit an additional I-134 from the co-sponsor's wife
the department of state says i need to submit an I-1864A.
the DOS representative also told me that whatever is in their system comes directly from the consulate.....

so where do i go...what do i do..... at this point get over this nightmare....

any suggestions. I am desperate. helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif
rebeccajo
Why are you speaking to the State Department?

Can you not contact the consulate directly?
neel06
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Nov 7 2007, 10:16 AM) *
Why are you speaking to the State Department?

Can you not contact the consulate directly?



I have been staying up all night and calling the consulate.... they won't pick up. I emailed them and no response. out of frustration i called the state department.
ELW
What a mess! Tons of people submit co-sponsors, and I bet a fair number of them are jointly filed taxes. Why haven't we heard of joint signatures or additional Affidavits of Support being necessary?? Because they are not necessary and Delhi is just being difficult! mad.gif ranting33va.gif

All you can do neel06, is try your best to get together the forms they are requesting. If you can't contact you aunt now, you may have to just wait.

In the meantime, you said you had another uncle who could do the sponsorship. I wonder if you send in his paperwork, whether it will work. unsure.gif After all, the important thing is to have a sponsor.
neel06
QUOTE(ELW @ Nov 7 2007, 06:18 PM) *
What a mess! Tons of people submit co-sponsors, and I bet a fair number of them are jointly filed taxes. Why haven't we heard of joint signatures or additional Affidavits of Support being necessary?? Because they are not necessary and Delhi is just being difficult! mad.gif ranting33va.gif

All you can do neel06, is try your best to get together the forms they are requesting. If you can't contact you aunt now, you may have to just wait.

In the meantime, you said you had another uncle who could do the sponsorship. I wonder if you send in his paperwork, whether it will work. unsure.gif After all, the important thing is to have a sponsor.



ElW luckily my aunt whose husband is our co-sponsor is coming home this week so i will get all this taken care of. however, there is this fear that what if even thats not good enough for them.
Jas S
QUOTE(neel06 @ Nov 7 2007, 09:52 PM) *
QUOTE(ELW @ Nov 7 2007, 06:18 PM) *
What a mess! Tons of people submit co-sponsors, and I bet a fair number of them are jointly filed taxes. Why haven't we heard of joint signatures or additional Affidavits of Support being necessary?? Because they are not necessary and Delhi is just being difficult! mad.gif ranting33va.gif

All you can do neel06, is try your best to get together the forms they are requesting. If you can't contact you aunt now, you may have to just wait.

In the meantime, you said you had another uncle who could do the sponsorship. I wonder if you send in his paperwork, whether it will work. unsure.gif After all, the important thing is to have a sponsor.



ElW luckily my aunt whose husband is our co-sponsor is coming home this week so i will get all this taken care of. however, there is this fear that what if even thats not good enough for them.


That will be good enough. Don't fear anymore neel. Whatever docs they asked for just get those and you will have your Visa in hand. Also one thing, make sure to have a photocopy of the your aunt's proof of citizenship also along with your uncle's... good luck
ELW
Happy to hear that news, neel06! biggrin.gif

Thanks Jas S, good advice. good.gif
neel06

Thanks Jas and ELW. i know once my husband is here..i will forget this nightmare. i guess anything that doesn't kills you makes you stronger.
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