Hello All,

I am petitioning for my husband in Manila. Although it was not part of CR1/ IR1 packet 4, I just wanted to know if they do ask for it at the time of the interview? There was a typographical error on the CENOMAR that we jsut recently received from them and they do not guarantee that it will be rectified by the time my husband will have his interview on November 15.

Any thoughts?


Thanks,
Rina

Closest I can come is I saw where a K3 was put on AR for a CENOMAR [CENMAR]check.
As you probably know there is lots of fake CENOMARs in PI due to the cost and difficulty getting an annulment there.
If he lives close to Quezon City he may be able to go to the main NSO office and have it expedited.

Closest I can come is I saw where a K3 was put on AR for a CENOMAR [CENMAR]check.
As you probably know there is lots of fake CENOMARs in PI due to the cost and difficulty getting an annulment there.
If he lives close to Quezon City he may be able to go to the main NSO office and have it expedited.

That's what I thought
My husband already went to NSO and they told him that there is not enough time to correct it, even if its requested for expedited service. The problem was just one letter typo error on my name, instead of H they entered it as N. All of our other supporting documents have correct information on them. Our original long form marriage certificate clearly has the right information on it.

Do you have any suggestion, just in case USEM will ask for it? I have asked NSO for a certification to correct this information, so at least we have a proof that we are trying to rectify the error that they obviously made.

There's not a whole lot you can do. Strange he couldn't get it expedited if he went to the main office. You have to pay a little extra but normally it can be done.
At the same time I wouldn't worry about it to much. [Yeah I know you will anyway][Been there, done that naman!]
AS it's rare for USEM to put peeps on AR to do their own CENOMAR checks on CRs and IRs.
Only other thing I can think of is to do an "Affidavit of discrepancy".
I think it would be better not to bring attention to the error tho.
Maybe have it "standing by"!
Just my 2 centavos of advice.

just wondering if ur divorced status and remarried now , will the embassy will ask also for cenomar ?

I think so. My friends wife (K3) brought her previous husbands death certificate to the interview and they put her in AR till she got the Cenomar. My brothers fiancee had to get her cenomar also after her annulment. If there is a typo error in it I wouldn't bring it to thier attention.

I would understand that most probably they will ask for it on K3, however this is for IR1. My husband and I have been married for over 2 years, has a son and he has all the annulment documents. The error was just one letter, insted of letter h they put n instead. It's really teeny weeny error. Should I really be concerned??

Hello sis. I have my CEMAR CRS form. 5 Advisory on Marriage. Somebody from WOF told me that I will need that.

That may not even be noticeable. We had a late registered birth certificate and no baptismal certificate and it flew.

Your hubby having had a annulment should elimate them from being concerned about CENOMAR or CEMAR.
Same trip with my wife as she is a widow and CENOMAR wasn't an issue.

Could it maybe depend on the CO? My friends wife was a widow also and brought her husbands death certificate and they requested the Cenomar. She was a K3.

Could be as my wife was K3 also and wala.
I have also heard USEM does random CENOMAR checks also. Who really knows.
Just best to have all your "ducks in a row" and let the CO shoot away!

Hi. I dont know how many days you have before your interview, but you may want to take a look at this info I posted in another thread. Per the email exchanges with NSO, you will see that if you order your cenomar through ecensus web site, YOU are in complete control of entering in your Correct Name and other info, no possibility that some other human will retpe it with a clerical error. Check out the ecensus site and see if you can submit right away when the delivery will be to you, if that will occur before your interview..that way you will have it "just in case". Good Luck!

I sent an email to the eCensus site requesting info on this. I am posting their helpful reply here. Maybe it will help others in the future.

From: e-census@census.gov.ph [mailto:e-census@census.gov.ph]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:30 PM
To: Samby
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Ability to use e-Census to Request CENOMAR when BC name is annotated under RA 9048

Dear Samby:

Thank you for your e-mail.

You may submit your request for Certificate of No Marriage Record (CENOMAR) via our e-census website (www.e-census.com.ph).

This is to clarify that whatever details the requester submitted during online application will be the same details that will be printed on the document result of the CENOMAR request. These details will also be the basis of document processing. From the time the requester confirms and submits the details of his/her online document application via the e-Census website until the document is processed after payment, there is no human intervention from our end or from the e-Census processing center.

Thank you.

Yours truly,

e-Census Operations

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On Wed, October 17, 2007 12:36 am, Samby wrote:
Good Day:

Can you please advise me if I may utilize the e-Census Web Site to request a copy of my CENOMAR. I have just completed the RA 9048 Correction of Clerical Errors process to correct the spelling of my First Name. That process is now completed and I have in my hand my annotated NSO Birth Certificate that shows the original (incorrect) First Name in the body of the form and the corrected information annotated along the side of the front of the document.

I have never been married. I am not certain if a CENOMAR document request utilizes the information from the Birth Certificate. This is why I am writing to inquire.

1. May I submit a e-Census request for CENOMAR?
2. If Yes, does it matter if my e-Census submission is made with my real (corrected) first name or must I use the original NSO BC incorrect first name?
3. Since I have never been married, will it make any difference which first name I submit, as either will result in a NO Marriage Record found.

Thank you for your quick reply.

It would appear that Manila is requiring the CENOMAR for all these types of visas now.

My hubby will be going to Census Office on Monday, and I have ordered from their E-census site. Geesh, it cost $25 for one copy and has no guarantee that it will be a correct one.

Just wanted to give an upodate to everyone just in case they come across the same issue I had...

CENOMAR is a type written certification by NSO. In my case, there was a typo on my second name LYLAH, placing N instead of H. In order to correct this, my husband brought with him my original passport, original INS Naturalization Certificate and our original long form marriage certificate to show the correct spelling of my second name. This was clearly an error made by NSO, therefore, there was no extra payment or going through any civil courts to correct this. Mine was corrected in 3 days.

Just a very important note: If you can prove them that they are wrong and provide them all original legal documents to show that, no one can take advantage of you and pay hundreds or even thousands of pesos. When you go through any government offices for any documents, make sure to double check your documents for any errors before leaving the location.

Good luck to all of us folks!

With the embassy asking for it for the K-1s I would recommend doing it just as a safety precaution. I believe that "more is better"

Its is required CENOMAR also for the K3 visa? Since I was already Married, do i need that kind of document? Is there anyone can tell that i will need to add CENOMAR in my check list for upcoming USEM Interview?

Alls I can tell you is a friend of my [K3] was on AR for 2 months because of USEM doing a CENOMAR check.
CRs/Ks/IRs all should get CENOMAR or CEMAR.
We did [K3] and didn't have problems.
Also a good thing to have as they show past and present marriage.

Thank you, Haole i Have a Authenticated Cert. after 1 month we get Married.

Thank you for your Help. God Bless for all of Us.

Yeap that's true, it's better to have more ammo.

Rina, just thought about something. Did the USEmbassy ever ask your husband to show his "CEMAR CRS form. 5 Advisory on Marriage"? Let me know soon please cuz my wife and I are having trouble getting this from the NSO in Pampanga.

Not Rina but doesn't matter if they asked or not as there isn't any standard procedure for asking.
All goes by case by case and the other evidence submitted.
Also they tend to investigate older pinay with a kid as there's a chance they have been married and they're trying to hide such.
You can get a CENOMAR on line or at the main office in Quezon City if the Local NSO office is giving you problems.
My wife had problems with her NSO local office also and I ordered her BC online.

Hi! Do we need a Cenomar even if we applied for a CR-1? CENOMAR is a certificate of no marriage, and how can we get one if we're married? whats the CEMAR form that you are talking about? My interview will be next week and i don't want to be missing any documents.

Thanks.

I don't understand this. If you're married and petitioning your spouse for either or CR/IR visa and you got married in the Philippines, how can you get a Certificate of No Marriage(CENOMAR) from the NSO?

That is why they tell you not to get CEMAR instead of CENOMAR..

Once u are married, obviously the National Statistics Office have a record of it so instead of giving u a certificate of no marriage (CENOMAR), they will give u the CRS form. 5 Advisory on Marriages.

As for those who were concerned, NO they did not ask my husband for one but I had him bring it just in case they will ask. I suggest to still have it! Hey, you'll never know....

Yeah your right, we are working on getting one now. One thing that surprize me is that they asked your husband for a photo album. Wow! Guess I'll ask my wife to bring one too. Thanks.

I also have a question about that... can you print the pictures 4 or 6 on a page or do you need to have regular pictures?
we have all our pictures on the computer taken with the digital camera and it would be alot cheaper and easier to print them rather than having them done for us ?
Any thoughts?

I couple years ago there was a lot of concern about using digital prints.
Since then there have been LOTS of people who used them and doesn't seem to be a problem.
We printed 4 pics per page with written captions below.
For backup we had taken throw away cam pics and did a couple pages with them glued on.
Total of 10 pages. CO at the interview "spocked" them out and so did the IO at the AOS interview.
Surprised me the IO questioned us at the AOS interview about the wedding pictures that had been taken over a year and 1/2 before.

One other thing!
My first K1 petition was denied for lack of enuf pictures. [They specificially said lack of pics with family].
Second time with the K3 I hit them with BOTH barrels.

We had to have a CENOMAR for the Regitrar"s Office when we got our marriage license, but once married the marriage certificate from the NSO has been what I've seen required. That is for the CR1 visa and we were married in the Philippines. I'm sure there are different requirements for those who marry in other countries.

I don't think you would get denied for not just having CEMAR.. That is kind of low reason for denial.

...But, depending with the CO, it will certainly can place you on Administrative Processing (background and name check).