I have a feeling they are still reviewing it. What do you think?

lol.. yep i'd say so..

I'll give them till friday, then i'm putting the call in and requesting some solid info as to what the deal is!

wow...it seems like many of us are in double review mode...lol...i hope everything works out well for you NP!!! i will pray for ya and maybe they are reviewing it now...I am going to give them a call at the end of this week to see if there is any progress in locating the marriage certificate...i WISH they would care more for our paperwork...but then again their job is not exactly the most exciting thing...but we NEED OUR LOVED ONES ASAP!!! sending positive vibes towards the NVC...PLEASE complete our cases

I called yesterday and spoke with a guy - who gave me a different take on it all.

So he said, well we still show no record of receiving your Husband's PR card. (they acknowledged they received the mail on October 9th).

He said you should send it in again haha.

I said well everyone I have spoken to up until you, has told me to just wait, they received the mail so just wait for them to review it and ignore the 2nd RFE.

As an aside, the guy I spoke to on Monday said go ahead and email it in - which I did.

Anyway, I am getting a bit ticked off. If they were just reviewing ALL documents that's one thing, the fact that the PR card (copy) arrived there 2 weeks ago and they still don't see it in the file is what annoys me the most.

I mean REALLY - if he is here (Canada) illegally, then he has been for almost 8 years and so when he goes to interview at Montreal they could just call the Canadian authorities and have him arrested.

Ok, that was a bit dramatic

It seems to me that they they are taking so much time in reviewing docs for those who got RFE'd. I mean if the RFE checklist is followed correctly, and if what they ask for is just to submit a document or two, it's as easy as just validating them if it is either original or certified true copy. I mean, I don't think it is that hard to add that document and say it's case complete.

NOA2 on 9/20- called NVC today, no record of my CIS case number. waited 4+ weeks- patience is a virtue. I can probably kiss Christmas marriage hopes or even Christmas with my fiancee and family out the window. But patience, patience, patience!

Called again today, nothing to report.. the operator advised calling next week.. sound promising.. i hope. Time for me to stop thinking about it, think its best. i just don't want more delays and have to send more copies in.. they have everything tho.. oh well

I'm sorry to hear about that

hi everyone!

yes, yes, yes to kungfuadam, patience is a virtue

NikkisPrecious, even if the operator advices you to call next week, try to call them again tom (fri). I think they are just trying to limit the number of calls they receive so that the bulletin in their call center will not turn RED due to too much call on queue. NVC really make us wait. Grrr...

I got my appointment date by calling DOS, a minute after Rina called DOS and told me that she has hers already, and so did Lhedy after me. hahahaha..

good luck dialing!

-jyz

Thanks guys

So whatever happened to your I-129F?

Diana

Yes, this waiting for NVC to complete everything is - annoying. I am going to give them a call again today to see if they have the PR card. I gave them a break yesterday and didn't call ha ahaha.

I have decided that whomever has my file has decided to hold it back because I sent in part of the RFE info without the 'official' coversheet and although I mailed them the info on Oct 3rd and emailed it to them as well the other day they are going to hold my file until I return the 2nd RFE for the PR card which they have already. They have officially had it for 16 days now.

So, if they STILL don't acknowledge it today I guess my only option is to send it again, overnight later today. Haven't had enough coffee to call them yet

Mine?

I actually got the the letter from the UK embassy saying they are ready to interview and medical and all that but seens as we are abandoning it, i've not sent anything back to them.. It crossed my mind to act on it today but we really should just sit tight for the better CR1 i guess.

I'm not sure if i have to let them know we are not going the K-3 route, but if i say nothing and then when i FINALLY get the CR1 complete they will see we chose the better one eh

yeah you go! get tough with them.. oh btw did you ever pop the "is there a limit to the amount of calls?" question..

This seems all too long, they managed to get the first bits turned around in just a few days, theres NO reason why these last bits can't be as quick... everything we've sent has been shortcut versions so i'm sure they aren't making us wait coz its not the "official" papers..

Yeah that's true, just something I came up with in my head to try to make sense of why it would take 16 days to add 1 piece of paper to a file

I agree with you, for each of the RFE's I had it took 3 and 5 days for them to add the information to the file - I assume when they do get everything that there is some kind of 'final approval' procedure in place, or maybe not, who knows!!

Have called twice since we talked about it, they still haven't questioned my number of calls so I haven't asked, but I absolutely will if they do.

Exactly what i've been thinking! Its such a minor ammend.. As for the day count its random, some people on here took 5 days, some 10 days, ours it looking to be 20+... BUT WHHHHHYYYYY!!!! arrrgh

Yes I noticed that too, yours is taking an exceptionallllly long time - 5-10 does seem to be the average, they seem to be going for a record with yours (j/k!).

The thing is, even though you are now pretty much outside what you KNOW to be the real processing time after they have received all the documents there is nothing you can do because they have the 56-84 weeks to review 'standard' answer (ok maybe I exaggerated that a bit).

The other thing, and I am sure you are thinking about this now too, is that (however unlikely it might be in Montreal's case) - if they don't move on these files in the next few weeks we will miss out on the scheduling that will take place in November. It seemed silly a few weeks ago - but who would have predicted it would have taken them this long 3 weeks ago?

Ok, have had my coffee, time to call!!

Cool, let us know how you get on

And yeah.. if they don't get on with this soon, we are gonna miss out on getting dec intrviews, which means Christmas alone Nooo! they gotta sort this out, its a joke really, how long does it really take to look over a few peices of paper?

Waste of time - again.

So I said to her, you have officially acknowledged that you have had the documents I sent on the 3rd, since the 9th. Yet the file is not updated to say you have received the PR card.

She said - we have received those documents, did you send a DS-230 as well? I said yes I did. Well apparently when they enter the information they only put in what they deem to be important or what they see on top of the pile, according to her - so she can see that A. They did get the DS-230 part 1 on the 9th - B. That they have not reviewed the documents yet (I have heard this 10 times now).

I said well, this is the 3rd set of documents I have sent in and the other 2 times it took 3-5 days to review. She, of course, said - well you can never tell, it depends how much mail we get at that time.

So basically when they got my first set of papers re DS-230 at the end of September it took them about 10 days to review it and send out a 2nd RFE. But with the PR card it has been 16 days and they still haven't looked at it?

My concern is that they have glanced at it and decided the PR card isn't really in there basically that they glance at the file and keep going - oh, waiting on the PR copy.

So my dilemma is now do I trust that they just haven't looked at the 2nd set of documents and just keep on waiting for them to get around to it. OR do I just send ANOTHER copy with only the PR card so they can't miss it.

My decision is that I don't believe they are just waiting to review that 2nd mailing - I think they are overlooking it, so I am now calling the courier, they will have the copy at their office tomorrow.

Look, you've met the RFE quota already as I understand your situation.

Are they saying they want to send another RFE? More likely, they are just brooding the upcoming loss of your case in less than complete condition according to their screwed up records.

Sending another copy of the document will screw things up even more... they'll have to re-open your case to review it!

I'd start getting tough with them next week about getting the file out of there..

You're right, with the RFE hard copy I received for the DS-230 the day before yesterday I am now at the quota of 2.

They may well be brooding over it - for whatever reason (they need to get over that ).

According to them the only thing pending right now is a Review of the second submission - they say they haven't even looked at it.

I don't see sending this document again as screwing it up further, I think they THINK they are waiting for it (oh she sent us a duplicate of the DS-230 RFE stuff - we have sent the request for the PR Card - will wait until she sends that back).

As you know, they are normally pretty quick at reviewing RFE documents - which is what makes me suspicious.

We will find out after they receive this I guess. I don't want to be sitting here next Thursday thinking damn I wish I had gone ahead and sent the stupid PR copy a week ago.

>>>>Courier just picked it up - it's on its way!

There is not supposed to be a third submission. Don't create one and really confuse them! If they say they are reviewing, that is what it means and you need to sit tight and not presume you know what they are doing when they don't know what they are doing themselves!

In my case, a DS-230 and I-864 RFE were both received on Oct. 1 and posted to the case on Oct. 4. Both were on still on review as late as Oct. 20. On Oct. 22, case went NVC complete (i.e. documentarily qualified). The I-864 RFE reply, in particular, also took very long and made me suspicious too. In retrospect, before NVC case complete, the case is supposed to go through a final, second review of everything together, which is probably exactly why it is taking so long for you and why it took so long for me.



Sorry Maureen, with all due respect, you might have just shot yourself in the foot!

As I said earlier, if the case goes NVC complete, upon receipt of the new evidence, NVC will have to re-open the case to review the new evidence.

I hear what you are saying and I don't necessarily disagree with you, it may well turn out to be that it just looks like it is sitting there doing 'nothing' when in fact they are doing the final review prior to case complete.

By sending this 'additional' evidence - if that is true, then they will probably have completed it before acknowledging receipt of this evidence and then it will tack on another - however long - for them to re-open and review the 'new' document.

So I do understand that and if I believed that I wouldn't have sent the document. As you mentioned, presuming to know what they are doing is nothing more than a guess. You have your guess and I have mine and I have to go with my instinct on this one.

If this theory is correct, as above, then the case should be complete before they ever acknowledge this new piece of paper. If that is the case then I have added more time to this process, if not, it will be fixed. Either way we should find out some time next week.

(I also get the 2 RFE limit thing - that they should send it on now - however with my submission of two responses to the first RFE, I can't be sure they will look at it that way, if you know what I mean).

my case is complete!

I see that!

Ok here is the trailmix update haha

So brief overview for Husband's PR card sent to NVC so far:

- October 3rd - Sent PR card with DS-230 and checklist (missed it on my first checklist submission Sept 26th - where I made my own cover letter/barcode, using info from NVC operator)
- October 22nd - Sent PR copy via email per suggestion from NVC operator - they acknowledged my email today, by return email.
- October 26th - Sent 2nd checklist coversheet with copy of PR Card

So as mentioned, they acknowledged my email today AND I just got off the phone with NVC, they acknowledge they received the mail I sent them last Thursday - haven't looked at it yet of course.

The IVR still has the "on October 12th we sent you a checklist" blah blah blah

Soooo now I wait for them to actually look at it.

What I believe this means is, they completely disregarded the second set of documents I sent for the 1st checklist for the DS-230 (October 2nd). Instead they mailed me a checklist for the PR card based on my 1st response to the checklist.

Or, they just weren't looking. The operators tell me it says that they only received a DS-230 the second time I submitted items. The operator said sometimes they don't list everything received - that hasn't been my experience.

trailmix...

I'm experiencing the same thing with form I-184 because I forgot to include some of the documents that go with I-184... I sent them one day after (which actually they'll be there before form I-184 since I sent them using express mail) .... so u're saying that they will ignore the second form u sent in my case (I-184) and concentrate only in the first documents you sent which in my case are brith certificates....this is confusing, I don't know what they do with it though

and Nikkis congrats by the way )

Yes, I guess that is what I am saying.

However! I don't think that is necessarily going to be true in your case. They may not have looked at mine properly, although I attached a copy of the PR card to the DS-230, second batch, maybe they didn't see it, maybe someone wasn't on the ball that day.

I think in your case where you are sending original documents (the PR card is just a photocopy) they will be more likely to look at it, if you know what I mean.

Good Luck!

P.S. The form you sent is probably actually the I-864 affidavit of support (instead of I-184)

You're almost there Trailmix I think now it makes the most sense! The system wasn't ready to accept the second set of document you sent and therefore were ignored. Currently it is taking them 10 calendar days to review RFE's in particular, thus I would expect your case to get completed on or around 11/08

aahhaa i'm laughing cuz on the letter where I explained to them I said I-184 instead of I-864(you right) now I will get them more confuzed oh god... I hope that I-184 doesn't exit so they will know what i'm refering at lol

thnx though )