Heartland
Sep 25 2007, 06:29 AM
My husband and daughters visas were returned via aramex... without stamp or information.!!!!!!!!
what does this mean?????????????????
MaryandMian
Sep 25 2007, 06:32 AM
Contact Jordan maybe someone forgot to issue the visa and it was overlooked and mailed back to them. I have heard of this happening once before at another consulate.
Mary
tammy sue kay
Sep 25 2007, 07:35 AM
Well, Wendy, it seems the plot only thickens as the days go by.
All the e-mails I have sent to the embassy regarding hubbies case have been answered with totally non-commital answers, sometimes in only three words. So, I sat down and sent them a long e-mail, and asked them specific questions about the review. Then I called DOS and asked about security checks being done on my husband. DOS said that they had finished one round of checks and everything was good. She also said the case was waiting to be finished in Amman before the visa was issued.
This morning I recieved an answer to my very specific e-mail to the embassy. They responed by saying simply "The security checks take three months".
So, I am really beginning to believe that this is a case specific to one hand not knowing what the other is doing. The way I see it, it's a miracle ANYONE has ever gotten a visa from Jordan.........
MelissaHassan
Sep 25 2007, 07:56 AM
QUOTE(tammy sue kay @ Sep 25 2007, 08:35 AM)

Well, Wendy, it seems the plot only thickens as the days go by.
All the e-mails I have sent to the embassy regarding hubbies case have been answered with totally non-commital answers, sometimes in only three words. So, I sat down and sent them a long e-mail, and asked them specific questions about the review. Then I called DOS and asked about security checks being done on my husband. DOS said that they had finished one round of checks and everything was good. She also said the case was waiting to be finished in Amman before the visa was issued.
This morning I recieved an answer to my very specific e-mail to the embassy. They responed by saying simply "The security checks take three months".
So, I am really beginning to believe that this is a case specific to one hand not knowing what the other is doing. The way I see it, it's a miracle ANYONE has ever gotten a visa from Jordan.........
Hey Tammy, I agree with you when you say that one hand doesn't know what the other is doing, that is the case through this entire visa process.

My prayers are with you and hopefully you will hear some good news soon, hang in there!!
jasman0717
Sep 25 2007, 08:00 AM
Definitely contact the embassy, maybe someone forgot to do their job
dawnnhatem
Sep 25 2007, 08:54 AM
Yeah, that would stress me, but you know what? It might be a good thing that they are back in your hands if its possible that they were asked for pre-maturely. I think if no decisions been made yet, (we all wish they would decide faster, I know) maybe right now there's no good place for the passports there, like its nobody's job yet to hold them...it might be better that the passports are held by him for now. If its noone's turn to watch them at the embassy, there's probably no telling where they would be or what trouble they'd be into when you want them back. Its all I can think of. Keep hanging in there. It will happen.
doodlebug
Sep 25 2007, 08:58 AM
Let us know what the embassy says! That would totally freak me out too!
AInfante-Saraireh
Sep 25 2007, 09:09 AM
Wendy, you need to contact the embassy in amman either by phone or email and ask them why the passports were returned. If it's because of sec. checks, then they would possibly return them and ask for them at a later date for they know that your husband and daughter need their passports in hand until they issue the visa. On the other hand, if he didn't pass sec check, then I would really look into that.
77Maureen
Sep 25 2007, 09:47 AM
Was there a letter with the passports explaining anything? I would call the embassy and get to the bottom of it. I hope they just forgot to put the visas in the passport and your husband just has to go up to the embasy for them to stamp them. I hope it all works out.
The Amman embassy forgot to mail my husbands passport back, he had to go there and pick it up.
Heartland
Sep 25 2007, 10:13 AM
ok talked to DOS, they said he is in security check and the avg is four months.... They made a mistake by returning the passports.
I sent a letter to Jordan and am awaiting their response.
My husband is going for an interview tomorrow for a job in Saudi. He is tired of all the games. I dont want to go there. He thinks the gov doesnt know what they are doing... so true . He cant find a job in Jordan. If he gets the job in Saudi, he has to turn over his passport. He cannot keep it with him therefor he cannot just send it in for the stamp of approval. Just pray for him to stay in Jordan! This man is hard headed!!! God at times I wish he just wanted the damn visa here more then I do!
I just cant belive God would do this
KyanWan
Sep 25 2007, 01:50 PM
You should give them a call. When you're on the phone with them - they're a bit friendlier. At least - they were to me ...
I suppose there's a difference between:
- An e-mail ( I could post a cartoon about the net & "anonymity" ... but the language is pretty crass

)
- A room full of 20 people who have 1,000,000 questions each - and there's 1 hour for the lady at the window to cover them all. ( Take this form. Next. )
Olivia*
Sep 25 2007, 04:19 PM
Uh...Looking at the trend in the threads for those applying from USA for their MENA spouses I've got a terribly bad feeling. Maybe I'm just influnenced by being sick. But seriously what is going on?
tammy sue kay
Sep 25 2007, 06:07 PM
Called DOS today, now they say the security checks can take anywhere from 3 months to a yearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
jasman0717
Sep 25 2007, 07:08 PM
QUOTE(Heartland @ Sep 25 2007, 08:13 AM)

ok talked to DOS, they said he is in security check and the avg is four months.... They made a mistake by returning the passports.
I sent a letter to Jordan and am awaiting their response.
My husband is going for an interview tomorrow for a job in Saudi. He is tired of all the games. I dont want to go there. He thinks the gov doesnt know what they are doing... so true . He cant find a job in Jordan. If he gets the job in Saudi, he has to turn over his passport. He cannot keep it with him therefor he cannot just send it in for the stamp of approval. Just pray for him to stay in Jordan! This man is hard headed!!! God at times I wish he just wanted the damn visa here more then I do!
I just cant belive God would do this
Wow, tough decisions to make
Heartland
Sep 30 2007, 12:08 PM
I really think they are trying not to approve anyone from these counties. I really think they are trying to discourage the couples. I have people I knwo from other coutries and they were here from start to finish in three months six tops....
sara535
Sep 30 2007, 12:31 PM
well think about it realistically. We ARE facing higher and stricter security measures, whether we like it or not its the fallout of 9/11 and its aftereffects. If you take into account that most of highjackers were here legally on visas the terms of which were often not followed and certainly not followed up with, that at least a couple of the highjackers were actually ON some of the watchlists but not all and there were no procedures in place to cross check, then you better believe the pendulum is swinging the other way and every possible department is doing every possible check and double check. No government agency wants to be the one with 'egg on their face' if ever there were another hideous terrorist incident inside the country. I think its the price any of us pay for falling in love with an Arab man and we should expect from the getgo to be subjected to extra scrutiny. I dont think its a matter of not
wanting to issue a visa.
Does this mean its not frustrating or often heartbreaking to be apart? of course not, I remember it well. I waited 8 months for my then fiance to get here and at the time it seemed like the longest 8 months of my life. The state department, various consulates and various security agencies are so disorganized and littered with misinformation and conflicting answers that it if it werent so upsetting for some of us its almost laughable. The best any of us can do is try to hang in there and encourage each other through the tough times and in your case all you can do is continue to explain as best you can to your husband. I know for a while it was almost impossible for my husband to beleive that bureaucracy inside the US is as insane and disorganized as it is, how can that be inside the last great SUPERPOWER in the world?? ( of course, that was before he got here and had a run in with the DMV....

)
and finally, again not that its too much comfort but there ARE other areas that also have a tough time with AP and AR and getting visas. Phillipines, Thailand, some of the former Soviet countries come to mind right now and strangely enough it seems from reading the boards that Montreal is a tough consulate to get through! so its not ONLY us MENA folks....
just HANG IN THERE! the visa will come and at some point all of this will fade into a dull but irritating memory.
sweetest_thing
Oct 3 2007, 02:59 AM
QUOTE(Heartland @ Sep 30 2007, 10:08 AM)

I really think they are trying not to approve anyone from these counties. I really think they are trying to discourage the couples. I have people I knwo from other coutries and they were here from start to finish in three months six tops....
girl, Hang on! Inshallah everything's gonna be just fine...
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