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We are still struggling to find a joint sponsor. We had one person in mind and despite some concerns she is open to doing it. However she is doesnt think her income would meet the criteria as she is on food stamps. Can theses be included as income?
If her salary is $14000 could the difference be made up by my assets, ie 5x $3500?
Many thanks
Ant
QUOTE(star sevadar @ Sep 22 2007, 09:55 PM) 
We are still struggling to find a joint sponsor. We had one person in mind and despite some concerns she is open to doing it.
If her salary is $14000 could the difference be made up by my assets, ie 5x $3500?
Many thanks
Ant
QUOTE
However she is doesnt think her income would meet the criteria as she is on food stamps.
Can theses be included as income?If her salary is $14000 could the difference be made up by my assets, ie 5x $3500?
Many thanks
Ant
However she is doesnt think her income would meet the criteria as she is on food stamps.
Thanks for the laugh!
QUOTE(beckypua @ Sep 23 2007, 08:11 AM)
QUOTE(star sevadar @ Sep 22 2007, 09:55 PM)
We are still struggling to find a joint sponsor. We had one person in mind and despite some concerns she is open to doing it.
If her salary is $14000 could the difference be made up by my assets, ie 5x $3500?
Many thanks
Ant
QUOTE
However she is doesnt think her income would meet the criteria as she is on food stamps.
Can theses be included as income?If her salary is $14000 could the difference be made up by my assets, ie 5x $3500?
Many thanks
Ant
However she is doesnt think her income would meet the criteria as she is on food stamps.
Thanks for the laugh!
No problems happy to provide entertainment. Bit of a typing error. Once youve stopped laughing do you have any answer to my question?
I'm not sure if food stamps will be classed as income, but you can use your assets if you have enough to make up the difference. Also if the joint sponsor has assets that would help in making up the difference too.
Unfortunately, she does not quality as a joint sponsor. Her income would need to meet the 125% poverty guideline for her household plus the immigrant without including any of your income or assets or the money from her food stamps (not sure if that's how it works, but thought I'd mention it just in case).
No, the sponsor and joint sponsor cannot combine income and assets to meet the minimum. The joint sponsor must meet the minimum by themselves.
QUOTE(PaulineA @ Sep 23 2007, 07:23 PM)
I'm not sure if food stamps will be classed as income, but you can use your assets if you have enough to make up the difference. Also if the joint sponsor has assets that would help in making up the difference too.
No, the sponsor and joint sponsor cannot combine income and assets to meet the minimum. The joint sponsor must meet the minimum by themselves.
QUOTE(MargotDarko @ Sep 24 2007, 08:40 AM)
Unfortunately, she does not quality as a joint sponsor. Her income would need to meet the 125% poverty guideline for her household plus the immigrant without including any of your income or assets or the money from her food stamps (not sure if that's how it works, but thought I'd mention it just in case).
No, the sponsor and joint sponsor cannot combine income and assets to meet the minimum. The joint sponsor must meet the minimum by themselves.
QUOTE(PaulineA @ Sep 23 2007, 07:23 PM)
I'm not sure if food stamps will be classed as income, but you can use your assets if you have enough to make up the difference. Also if the joint sponsor has assets that would help in making up the difference too.
No, the sponsor and joint sponsor cannot combine income and assets to meet the minimum. The joint sponsor must meet the minimum by themselves.
but can the joint sponsor and intending immigrant combine income and assets to meet requirements. ON the form (part 7) I cannot see where its says you cant do this. I read where it says the joint sponsor cannot combine resources with the principal sponsor but no mention of how it would work with combining with immigrant.
Jesus, why isnt Davis Beckham my best friend!
QUOTE(star sevadar @ Sep 24 2007, 05:28 PM)
QUOTE(MargotDarko @ Sep 24 2007, 08:40 AM)
Unfortunately, she does not quality as a joint sponsor. Her income would need to meet the 125% poverty guideline for her household plus the immigrant without including any of your income or assets or the money from her food stamps (not sure if that's how it works, but thought I'd mention it just in case).
No, the sponsor and joint sponsor cannot combine income and assets to meet the minimum. The joint sponsor must meet the minimum by themselves.
QUOTE(PaulineA @ Sep 23 2007, 07:23 PM)
I'm not sure if food stamps will be classed as income, but you can use your assets if you have enough to make up the difference. Also if the joint sponsor has assets that would help in making up the difference too.
No, the sponsor and joint sponsor cannot combine income and assets to meet the minimum. The joint sponsor must meet the minimum by themselves.
but can the joint sponsor and intending immigrant combine income and assets to meet requirements. ON the form (part 7) I cannot see where its says you cant do this. I read where it says the joint sponsor cannot combine resources with the principal sponsor but no mention of how it would work with combining with immigrant.
Jesus, why isnt Davis Beckham my best friend!
Hmm... yes, I would think that since the immigrant is included in the joint sponsor's household that they could include their assets with the joint sponsor as a household member. Some vague memory of reading something similar is telling me that I'm not confident about that though. But neither can I find something that definitively says the joint sponsor and immigrant can not combine assets. The income of the immigrant could only count towards the total if it will continue after moving to the US.
Okay, I've found the bit that makes me think the joint sponsor and immigrant can not combine income/assets in your situation:
"If certain conditions are met, the intending immigrant's income can help you meet the income requirement. If the intending immigrant is your spouse, his or her income can beincluded if it will continue from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status. If the intending immigrant is another relative, there are two requirements.First, the income must be continuing from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status, and second, the intending immigrant must currently live with you in your residence. Evidence must be provided to support both requirements." (from the instructions on the I-864)
So that's saying that either the immigrant must be the spouse of the sponsor in order to include assets/income or they must be currently living with the sponsor/joint sponsor who wants to include their income/assets.
"If certain conditions are met, the intending immigrant's income can help you meet the income requirement. If the intending immigrant is your spouse, his or her income can beincluded if it will continue from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status. If the intending immigrant is another relative, there are two requirements.First, the income must be continuing from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status, and second, the intending immigrant must currently live with you in your residence. Evidence must be provided to support both requirements." (from the instructions on the I-864)
So that's saying that either the immigrant must be the spouse of the sponsor in order to include assets/income or they must be currently living with the sponsor/joint sponsor who wants to include their income/assets.
QUOTE(MargotDarko @ Sep 25 2007, 08:32 AM)
Okay, I've found the bit that makes me think the joint sponsor and immigrant can not combine income/assets in your situation:
"If certain conditions are met, the intending immigrant's income can help you meet the income requirement. If the intending immigrant is your spouse, his or her income can beincluded if it will continue from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status. If the intending immigrant is another relative, there are two requirements.First, the income must be continuing from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status, and second, the intending immigrant must currently live with you in your residence. Evidence must be provided to support both requirements." (from the instructions on the I-864)
So that's saying that either the immigrant must be the spouse of the sponsor in order to include assets/income or they must be currently living with the sponsor/joint sponsor who wants to include their income/assets.
"If certain conditions are met, the intending immigrant's income can help you meet the income requirement. If the intending immigrant is your spouse, his or her income can beincluded if it will continue from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status. If the intending immigrant is another relative, there are two requirements.First, the income must be continuing from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status, and second, the intending immigrant must currently live with you in your residence. Evidence must be provided to support both requirements." (from the instructions on the I-864)
So that's saying that either the immigrant must be the spouse of the sponsor in order to include assets/income or they must be currently living with the sponsor/joint sponsor who wants to include their income/assets.
My wifes brother has said that he would like to help us out as far as being a sponsor. He fills the requirements as far as income etc. His concern is this. He has his own business and says he has some discrepancies with the IRS right now. He didnt really elaborate too much but I think he owes them quite a bit. He is concerned that this information would be scrutinised and could open him up to investigation. This he feels uncomfortable about. He will speak with his accountant when she gets back from holiday in 2 weeks. I wanted to see if I could find out for him wether his fears our valid because at this stage I couldnt reasurre him that it would be OK. Has anyone been is a similar situation or could offer some insight?
cheers
Ant
QUOTE(star sevadar @ Oct 8 2007, 08:39 PM)
QUOTE(MargotDarko @ Sep 25 2007, 08:32 AM)
Okay, I've found the bit that makes me think the joint sponsor and immigrant can not combine income/assets in your situation:
"If certain conditions are met, the intending immigrant's income can help you meet the income requirement. If the intending immigrant is your spouse, his or her income can beincluded if it will continue from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status. If the intending immigrant is another relative, there are two requirements.First, the income must be continuing from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status, and second, the intending immigrant must currently live with you in your residence. Evidence must be provided to support both requirements." (from the instructions on the I-864)
So that's saying that either the immigrant must be the spouse of the sponsor in order to include assets/income or they must be currently living with the sponsor/joint sponsor who wants to include their income/assets.
"If certain conditions are met, the intending immigrant's income can help you meet the income requirement. If the intending immigrant is your spouse, his or her income can beincluded if it will continue from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status. If the intending immigrant is another relative, there are two requirements.First, the income must be continuing from the same source after he or she obtains lawful permanent resident status, and second, the intending immigrant must currently live with you in your residence. Evidence must be provided to support both requirements." (from the instructions on the I-864)
So that's saying that either the immigrant must be the spouse of the sponsor in order to include assets/income or they must be currently living with the sponsor/joint sponsor who wants to include their income/assets.
My wifes brother has said that he would like to help us out as far as being a sponsor. He fills the requirements as far as income etc. His concern is this. He has his own business and says he has some discrepancies with the IRS right now. He didnt really elaborate too much but I think he owes them quite a bit. He is concerned that this information would be scrutinised and could open him up to investigation. This he feels uncomfortable about. He will speak with his accountant when she gets back from holiday in 2 weeks. I wanted to see if I could find out for him wether his fears our valid because at this stage I couldnt reasurre him that it would be OK. Has anyone been is a similar situation or could offer some insight?
cheers
Ant
It should be a totally separate issue and it should not open up a can of worms. I have not heard of any case where it has happened for the joint sponsor.
If it is a simple case of him properly reporting his income and just owing the IRS money, that is definitely not a worry. If he has been lying on his tax returns, that should still be a separate issue but I do not know of anything official that says so explicitly.
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