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Logres

Sep 27 2007, 12:24 PM

QUOTE(meow mix @ Sep 27 2007, 06:17 PM)

QUOTE(Logres @ Sep 27 2007, 12:38 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Sep 27 2007, 11:57 AM)

Your journey is not over when you receive NOA2. It is not over when the visa is approved. It is not over when the greencard is received. It is not even over if your spouse naturalizes. Each step of the process brings you to another plateau and THAT IS ALL.

I liked your post a lot RebeccaJo, very thoughtful.

What are your thoughts on the issues that will be faced at the stage after US naturalisation? A few that spring to my mind are......
-The need to file Tax Returns forevermore.
-Lose the support of the British consul in the US.
I'm a ways off this at the moment, but hopefully we'll be in a position to have to decide whether I apply for US Citizenship at some point in the future.

If you don't get into any trouble, you shouldn't need the british consul for much other than passport renewals if you so desire ^.^

I wasn't planning on getting into any trouble

I'm sure you're right, that this should not be a problem. The other possible scenario that immediatly springs to mind is that if we have children and wanted to obtain UK citizenship for them. I'm not anticipating that this would be a big issue, as we will no doubt continue to travel to the UK regularly anyway.

Opps, this post looks a little lost in a discussion on USCIS processing times........ I think I should start a new thread. It would be interesting to draw on people's experieinces of the issues that arise at even stages of an immigration saga.

athena_ny

Sep 27 2007, 12:31 PM

QUOTE(Logres @ Sep 27 2007, 01:24 PM)

QUOTE(meow mix @ Sep 27 2007, 06:17 PM)

QUOTE(Logres @ Sep 27 2007, 12:38 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Sep 27 2007, 11:57 AM)

Your journey is not over when you receive NOA2. It is not over when the visa is approved. It is not over when the greencard is received. It is not even over if your spouse naturalizes. Each step of the process brings you to another plateau and THAT IS ALL.

I liked your post a lot RebeccaJo, very thoughtful.

What are your thoughts on the issues that will be faced at the stage after US naturalisation? A few that spring to my mind are......
-The need to file Tax Returns forevermore.
-Lose the support of the British consul in the US.
I'm a ways off this at the moment, but hopefully we'll be in a position to have to decide whether I apply for US Citizenship at some point in the future.

If you don't get into any trouble, you shouldn't need the british consul for much other than passport renewals if you so desire ^.^

I wasn't planning on getting into any trouble

I'm sure you're right, that this should not be a problem. The other possible scenario that immediatly springs to mind is that if we have children and wanted to obtain UK citizenship for them. I'm not anticipating that this would be a big issue, as we will no doubt continue to travel to the UK regularly anyway.

Opps, this post looks a little lost in a discussion on USCIS processing times........ I think I should start a new thread. It would be interesting to draw on people's experieinces of the issues that arise at even stages of an immigration saga.

It did.

But on the UK citizenship - you should be fine getting that as well.

I not-helping-once-you-have-US citizenship-thing is more of a protection for the US so if you get into major legal trouble, etc. you can't go running to the British consulate and get assistance from the. For normal bureaucratic stuff like passports, and citizenship for children, it shouldn't be an issue.

virgillionaire

Sep 27 2007, 10:07 PM

QUOTE(Ionescu @ Sep 27 2007, 01:16 PM)

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It also must be nice to have your significant other from one of the 27 countries on the VISA Waiver Program so your loved one can come here and visit for 90 days without a VISA. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html Oh wait, I am sure the compasionate ones who are here to "help" us will say something like, "nobody told you to fall in love with someone from a country that is not on the list..."or something else real intelligent, helpful, and caring.

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So here you go to all of you "I just try to help people...but they don't want to listen to me (us)" people. Fresh blood here...time for you to feast and tell each other how right you are and how the newer members are just whiners...or call in the reinforcements and close the thread, delete the post, etc. Sure wish those reinforcements would cancel accounts for those of you who have nothing better to do than come on this board and in more than half of your posts in a week just throw sarcasm and attempted superiority at those you disagree with. I can't wait to read the words of wisdom those of you write after this post because it is burning so bad in you that you just have to reply to feel better about yourself and show everyone how smart you are.

Yea must be nice that ppl have an SO from one of those countries, unfortunately the majority of us who have been HELPING, even tho you chose not to accept the help don't have an SO from one of those countries, and the ones who do, they don't have the SO here with them bc immigration is so expensive they'd rather use the money on the plane ticket to bring their SO here when the visa is handed to them

and to the second bolded area, dude you seriously need to get a grip. if you don't want our help or advice, there are other message boards. attacking us in that manner is just childish, and we come back here bc we do help other ppl going thru the process, and believe it or not, we are very appreciated for the help and advice we do give on a daily basis. just bc some of us are done for a few years, doesn't mean we cant come back just bc you don't like that we are done with the process, or close to being done.
its called a public IMMIGRATION forum for a reason.

And i didn't respond to show how "smart i am" i certainly don't have to respond to a childish post for you to get that sence of pleasure. i responded bc you seem to have it out for everyone who has either finished the process and gives advice and help or for those almost finished and who don't find your additude very positive towards anyone who didnt just start the process.

Let me say I'm in the noob camp:) although I did go through this before, unfortunately. Maybe I should have listened to RJ's advice.

But all this whining, if you will, about being attacked for not having it as hard as us is misplaced. That was raised because US Wendy's original thread about writing congress was virtually shouted down claiming it was whining.

One sage vet even said ' I love the sound of newbies whining in the morning.' So please don't come off like martyrs just trying to help someone.

It's kind of been tit for tat since then. And I could really give a flying wallenda about someone's negative response to me. I don't know anyone here well enough to give it that kind of weight.

That said, I do appreciate the availability of people who have been through this and have knowledge to share. And this website is probably saving me a couple grand in legal fees, so I have to thank the organizers for that.

So maybe we should call a truce?, even though I admit it has been good theater

rebeccajo

Sep 27 2007, 10:27 PM

QUOTE(Logres @ Sep 27 2007, 12:38 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Sep 27 2007, 11:57 AM)

Your journey is not over when you receive NOA2. It is not over when the visa is approved. It is not over when the greencard is received. It is not even over if your spouse naturalizes. Each step of the process brings you to another plateau and THAT IS ALL.

I liked your post a lot RebeccaJo, very thoughtful.

What are your thoughts on the issues that will be faced at the stage after US naturalisation? A few that spring to my mind are......
-The need to file Tax Returns forevermore.
-Lose the support of the British consul in the US.
I'm a ways off this at the moment, but hopefully we'll be in a position to have to decide whether I apply for US Citizenship at some point in the future.

I presume your referring to my contention that the journey continues even after naturalization.

My husband and I have discussed this and for us, seeing as how the UK will forevermore recognize him as a citizen, natz for us is a no-brainer. My husband has no holdings in the UK - any taxes he would be paying would be on US dollars anyway. And the only way we will probably ever return to the UK would be if we were desperately in need of health care. We'll be broke at that point anyway, so there won't be much for the US government to tax.

So I guess it depends on just how wealthy you think you might be later on. We don't expect to be.

As for the consulate - well that's already been discussed.

rebeccajo

Sep 27 2007, 10:40 PM

QUOTE(virgillionaire @ Sep 27 2007, 11:07 PM)

Let me say I'm in the noob camp:) although I did go through this before, unfortunately. Maybe I should have listened to RJ's advice.

But all this whining, if you will, about being attacked for not having it as hard as us is misplaced. That was raised because US Wendy's original thread about writing congress was virtually shouted down claiming it was whining.

One sage vet even said ' I love the sound of newbies whining in the morning.' So please don't come off like martyrs just trying to help someone.

It's kind of been tit for tat since then. And I could really give a flying wallenda about someone's negative response to me. I don't know anyone here well enough to give it that kind of weight.

That said, I do appreciate the availability of people who have been through this and have knowledge to share. And this website is probably saving me a couple grand in legal fees, so I have to thank the organizers for that.

So maybe we should call a truce?, even though I admit it has been good theater

The only 'attacks' that get up my backside are those by individuals who have a problem with my short visa timeline. Of course, I've listened to that for two years now and I should be over it. But it just gets really, really old.

It's very unfair to shove someone's good fortune back in their face. I particularly resent the comments as they imply (or outright declare) that I can't possibly understand the writers' misery because I've not walked in his shoes. That's blatantly unfair for a couple of reasons. First of all, few of you know me personally and therefore have no idea what 'level' of empathy I'm capable of. It's quite a lot - just to let you know. Secondly, I wouldn't still be here (nearly three years into our journey) if I didn't care about the process and those in it.

I daresay those who presently criticize my timeline won't be around here assisting other posters three years into their immigration stories. And I can say that with a good deal of certainty, because I've yet to see one who has.

I'd love to see a truce, but one shouldn't be necessary. People with shorter timelines than 'you' (collectively) are not your enemy. People reunited with their loved ones are not your enemies. We are just 'vets' and that is all we are. Some have bigger attitudes than others - it's the same with the 'newbs'. It's not hard to separate the wheat from the chaff in either case.

I'd love to see a truce. Tell me how we get there.

Cassie

Sep 27 2007, 10:56 PM

rebeccajo!

JanaknJanet

Sep 27 2007, 11:58 PM

HEY~YA Becca... Once again... well said..

StillThePrettiest

Sep 28 2007, 06:29 AM

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Sep 28 2007, 04:40 AM)

I'd love to see a truce. Tell me how we get there.

perhaps we could start by ALL speaking to others in a manner in which we'd like to be spoken to... impossible on an internet forum? perhaps difficult, but I belong to another forum where even mild flaming simply doesn't occur; we have all manner of complex discussions, and people feel strongly about things, but don't get nasty, or rude, or whatever

oh, and a ban on mentioning our waiting times might be a good idea as well

mox

Sep 28 2007, 12:18 PM

QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Sep 28 2007, 04:29 AM)

perhaps we could start by ALL speaking to others in a manner in which we'd like to be spoken to

What are you, some kind of trouble maker?

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oh, and a ban on mentioning our waiting times might be a good idea as well

But...but...but...

Oh alright.

Sinergy

Sep 28 2007, 03:52 PM

QUOTE(virgillionaire @ Sep 27 2007, 11:07 PM)

QUOTE(Ionescu @ Sep 27 2007, 01:16 PM)

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It also must be nice to have your significant other from one of the 27 countries on the VISA Waiver Program so your loved one can come here and visit for 90 days without a VISA. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html Oh wait, I am sure the compasionate ones who are here to "help" us will say something like, "nobody told you to fall in love with someone from a country that is not on the list..."or something else real intelligent, helpful, and caring.

QUOTE

So here you go to all of you "I just try to help people...but they don't want to listen to me (us)" people. Fresh blood here...time for you to feast and tell each other how right you are and how the newer members are just whiners...or call in the reinforcements and close the thread, delete the post, etc. Sure wish those reinforcements would cancel accounts for those of you who have nothing better to do than come on this board and in more than half of your posts in a week just throw sarcasm and attempted superiority at those you disagree with. I can't wait to read the words of wisdom those of you write after this post because it is burning so bad in you that you just have to reply to feel better about yourself and show everyone how smart you are.

Yea must be nice that ppl have an SO from one of those countries, unfortunately the majority of us who have been HELPING, even tho you chose not to accept the help don't have an SO from one of those countries, and the ones who do, they don't have the SO here with them bc immigration is so expensive they'd rather use the money on the plane ticket to bring their SO here when the visa is handed to them

and to the second bolded area, dude you seriously need to get a grip. if you don't want our help or advice, there are other message boards. attacking us in that manner is just childish, and we come back here bc we do help other ppl going thru the process, and believe it or not, we are very appreciated for the help and advice we do give on a daily basis. just bc some of us are done for a few years, doesn't mean we cant come back just bc you don't like that we are done with the process, or close to being done.
its called a public IMMIGRATION forum for a reason.

And i didn't respond to show how "smart i am" i certainly don't have to respond to a childish post for you to get that sence of pleasure. i responded bc you seem to have it out for everyone who has either finished the process and gives advice and help or for those almost finished and who don't find your additude very positive towards anyone who didnt just start the process.

Let me say I'm in the noob camp:) although I did go through this before, unfortunately. Maybe I should have listened to RJ's advice.

But all this whining, if you will, about being attacked for not having it as hard as us is misplaced. That was raised because US Wendy's original thread about writing congress was virtually shouted down claiming it was whining.

One sage vet even said ' I love the sound of newbies whining in the morning.' So please don't come off like martyrs just trying to help someone.
It's kind of been tit for tat since then. And I could really give a flying wallenda about someone's negative response to me. I don't know anyone here well enough to give it that kind of weight.

That said, I do appreciate the availability of people who have been through this and have knowledge to share. And this website is probably saving me a couple grand in legal fees, so I have to thank the organizers for that.

So maybe we should call a truce?, even though I admit it has been good theater

i certainly dont speak for EVERYONE else, just myself.

virgillionaire

Sep 28 2007, 07:15 PM

QUOTE(Ionescu @ Sep 28 2007, 04:52 PM)

QUOTE(virgillionaire @ Sep 27 2007, 11:07 PM)

QUOTE(Ionescu @ Sep 27 2007, 01:16 PM)

QUOTE

It also must be nice to have your significant other from one of the 27 countries on the VISA Waiver Program so your loved one can come here and visit for 90 days without a VISA. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html Oh wait, I am sure the compasionate ones who are here to "help" us will say something like, "nobody told you to fall in love with someone from a country that is not on the list..."or something else real intelligent, helpful, and caring.

QUOTE

So here you go to all of you "I just try to help people...but they don't want to listen to me (us)" people. Fresh blood here...time for you to feast and tell each other how right you are and how the newer members are just whiners...or call in the reinforcements and close the thread, delete the post, etc. Sure wish those reinforcements would cancel accounts for those of you who have nothing better to do than come on this board and in more than half of your posts in a week just throw sarcasm and attempted superiority at those you disagree with. I can't wait to read the words of wisdom those of you write after this post because it is burning so bad in you that you just have to reply to feel better about yourself and show everyone how smart you are.

Yea must be nice that ppl have an SO from one of those countries, unfortunately the majority of us who have been HELPING, even tho you chose not to accept the help don't have an SO from one of those countries, and the ones who do, they don't have the SO here with them bc immigration is so expensive they'd rather use the money on the plane ticket to bring their SO here when the visa is handed to them

and to the second bolded area, dude you seriously need to get a grip. if you don't want our help or advice, there are other message boards. attacking us in that manner is just childish, and we come back here bc we do help other ppl going thru the process, and believe it or not, we are very appreciated for the help and advice we do give on a daily basis. just bc some of us are done for a few years, doesn't mean we cant come back just bc you don't like that we are done with the process, or close to being done.
its called a public IMMIGRATION forum for a reason.

And i didn't respond to show how "smart i am" i certainly don't have to respond to a childish post for you to get that sence of pleasure. i responded bc you seem to have it out for everyone who has either finished the process and gives advice and help or for those almost finished and who don't find your additude very positive towards anyone who didnt just start the process.

Let me say I'm in the noob camp:) although I did go through this before, unfortunately. Maybe I should have listened to RJ's advice.

But all this whining, if you will, about being attacked for not having it as hard as us is misplaced. That was raised because US Wendy's original thread about writing congress was virtually shouted down claiming it was whining.

One sage vet even said ' I love the sound of newbies whining in the morning.' So please don't come off like martyrs just trying to help someone.
It's kind of been tit for tat since then. And I could really give a flying wallenda about someone's negative response to me. I don't know anyone here well enough to give it that kind of weight.

That said, I do appreciate the availability of people who have been through this and have knowledge to share. And this website is probably saving me a couple grand in legal fees, so I have to thank the organizers for that.

So maybe we should call a truce?, even though I admit it has been good theater

i certainly dont speak for EVERYONE else, just myself.

I was referring to the general vet viewpoint, which like the newb viewpoint, has kind of been put out there ad nauseum.

Anyway, it seems one of your own family is in the newb camp

HaHa, Your son is only 2

Sinergy

Sep 28 2007, 07:24 PM

QUOTE(virgillionaire @ Sep 28 2007, 08:15 PM)

QUOTE(Ionescu @ Sep 28 2007, 04:52 PM)

QUOTE(virgillionaire @ Sep 27 2007, 11:07 PM)

QUOTE(Ionescu @ Sep 27 2007, 01:16 PM)

QUOTE

It also must be nice to have your significant other from one of the 27 countries on the VISA Waiver Program so your loved one can come here and visit for 90 days without a VISA. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html Oh wait, I am sure the compasionate ones who are here to "help" us will say something like, "nobody told you to fall in love with someone from a country that is not on the list..."or something else real intelligent, helpful, and caring.

QUOTE

So here you go to all of you "I just try to help people...but they don't want to listen to me (us)" people. Fresh blood here...time for you to feast and tell each other how right you are and how the newer members are just whiners...or call in the reinforcements and close the thread, delete the post, etc. Sure wish those reinforcements would cancel accounts for those of you who have nothing better to do than come on this board and in more than half of your posts in a week just throw sarcasm and attempted superiority at those you disagree with. I can't wait to read the words of wisdom those of you write after this post because it is burning so bad in you that you just have to reply to feel better about yourself and show everyone how smart you are.

Yea must be nice that ppl have an SO from one of those countries, unfortunately the majority of us who have been HELPING, even tho you chose not to accept the help don't have an SO from one of those countries, and the ones who do, they don't have the SO here with them bc immigration is so expensive they'd rather use the money on the plane ticket to bring their SO here when the visa is handed to them

and to the second bolded area, dude you seriously need to get a grip. if you don't want our help or advice, there are other message boards. attacking us in that manner is just childish, and we come back here bc we do help other ppl going thru the process, and believe it or not, we are very appreciated for the help and advice we do give on a daily basis. just bc some of us are done for a few years, doesn't mean we cant come back just bc you don't like that we are done with the process, or close to being done.
its called a public IMMIGRATION forum for a reason.

And i didn't respond to show how "smart i am" i certainly don't have to respond to a childish post for you to get that sence of pleasure. i responded bc you seem to have it out for everyone who has either finished the process and gives advice and help or for those almost finished and who don't find your additude very positive towards anyone who didnt just start the process.

Let me say I'm in the noob camp:) although I did go through this before, unfortunately. Maybe I should have listened to RJ's advice.

But all this whining, if you will, about being attacked for not having it as hard as us is misplaced. That was raised because US Wendy's original thread about writing congress was virtually shouted down claiming it was whining.

One sage vet even said ' I love the sound of newbies whining in the morning.' So please don't come off like martyrs just trying to help someone.
It's kind of been tit for tat since then. And I could really give a flying wallenda about someone's negative response to me. I don't know anyone here well enough to give it that kind of weight.

That said, I do appreciate the availability of people who have been through this and have knowledge to share. And this website is probably saving me a couple grand in legal fees, so I have to thank the organizers for that.

So maybe we should call a truce?, even though I admit it has been good theater

i certainly dont speak for EVERYONE else, just myself.

I was referring to the general vet viewpoint, which like the newb viewpoint, has kind of been put out there ad nauseum.

Anyway, it seems one of your own family is in the newb camp

HaHa, Your son is only 2

hes 2

making him a vet