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knowledge
Hi there! I just sent my ds-230 and just noticed on the back of that yellow little paper is a stamp stating the certif has no value for those who will work with kids or vulnerable individuals...with the number of the Law it accompany it...I searched on the RCMP site what it means...could not dechiffer it with my bad english...Is this a standard sheet that everybody receives or not? I might be working with these 2 categories of individuals...so i'm a bit confused and worried...knowing that before ordering the PC, i should've ask the whole thing with the fingerprints even if i have no record...
Thanks!
misa
Huh, how curious. I have the yellow RCMP certificate too (this is the one with your photo right?) but no stamp. Perhaps it's a new thing they are doing. Have you called the RCMP up to inquire about it? Can you type out the exact wording and the number of the law that it says? Maybe we can help you decipher it.
Tinker
I'm a PSW, I got the standard white form, no fingerprints or PIC! I usually have to get a new one when I start a new job. I've never had a problem.
It's accepted where I work. I'm not even sure if places in the States will even use our CPICs
knowledge
QUOTE(misa @ Aug 22 2007, 08:55 PM) *
Huh, how curious. I have the yellow RCMP certificate too (this is the one with your photo right?) but no stamp. Perhaps it's a new thing they are doing. Have you called the RCMP up to inquire about it? Can you type out the exact wording and the number of the law that it says? Maybe we can help you decipher it.


Thank you for the prompt reply misa...
Yellow sheet (half page) yes, but no photo asked. Sure i can type it.here are the big words.: it's a stamp on the back stating: "NOTE: this certificate does not apply to any individual who works with or is seeking a paid or volunteer position which deals with one or more children or vulnerable persons as defined by Sections 6.3 and 6.4 of the Criminal Records Act R.S.C. 1985 and the Bill C-7 as amended".
Now i browsed on RCMP's site that law, I don't identify at all with what they say...They give in bold the definition of vulnerable person..which i already know what it is...These words are scaring me lol...
I was about to call the RCMP they were closed....but i wanted also to know if anyone knows what this means before..If you can tell me what you think it would be really appreciated.
knowledge
QUOTE(Tinker @ Aug 22 2007, 08:58 PM) *
I'm a PSW, I got the standard white form, no fingerprints or PIC! I usually have to get a new one when I start a new job. I've never had a problem.
It's accepted where I work. I'm not even sure if places in the States will even use our CPICs


Thanks Tinker!...standard white? didin't know that, i have a yellow one like misa but no pic either...and when you start a new job you mean in Canada right? not in the US...It's standard of course when people work with those category of individuals that the employer has to ask a name check, i know that...as for professionals like you...etc...It happened to me and never had a problem either...
Did you use it in your K-1 process? i forgot to see if you have a timeline...
In my ds-230 form is asked (US requires) the CPICs...
knowledge
misa,
After 2nd thought, that statement seems to be more logical for people who are seeking work visa; so that to imply that maybe a fingerpring will be needed for that type of work..in the light of what Tinker said...In any case still don't understand if it applies for Canada or the US...because that law is a Canadian law...
Tinker
I'm doing the K1.
Depending on where you live or what office you go through, the CPIC's are different. I don't know why. Our RCMP office had a sign posted, Police Certificate for Immigrant Visa's $20. I told them what Visa and that's what they gave me, and other VJ'er. It was the same certificate I get from the local police station.

I read the DS-230 Part 1 and 2, and I don't see anything about the police check. Maybe I missed it, if your asking about the police certificate for your checklist (not sure about something other then K1) I think your fine. Someone who has gone the same route can hopefully tell you for sure
Tinker
double posted
misa
QUOTE(knowledge @ Aug 22 2007, 10:11 PM) *
misa,
After 2nd thought, that statement seems to be more logical for people who are seeking work visa; so that to imply that maybe a fingerpring will be needed for that type of work..in the light of what Tinker said...In any case still don't understand if it applies for Canada or the US...because that law is a Canadian law...


That's what it looks like to me. Or jobs that specifically ask you to get clearance on working with children or vulnerable people. I don't think you need to worry about it since your check is clear anyway.

Maybe someone else can try and decipher it? Here are links to section 6.3 and 6.4.

http://www.canlii.org/ca/sta/c-47/sec6.3.html
http://www.canlii.org/ca/sta/c-47/sec6.4.html
Carlawarla
I'm doing volunteer work with children, and they weren't interested in seeing anything from Canada. I still had to have a US police check completed. I don't know what that involves, or what it cost since the agency did that for me. They did do a very very comprehensive reference check, which included phoning about 4 people in Saskatchewan who knew me, both professionally and personally.

Carla rose.gif

P.S. Just an aside, I've found that for a lot of things in Canada. No one seems interested in my "stuff" from Canada. lol ie. driving record, police check
Emancipation
QUOTE(knowledge @ Aug 22 2007, 07:48 PM) *
Hi there! I just sent my ds-230 and just noticed on the back of that yellow little paper is a stamp stating the certif has no value for those who will work with kids or vulnerable individuals...with the number of the Law it accompany it...I searched on the RCMP site what it means...could not dechiffer it with my bad english...Is this a standard sheet that everybody receives or not? I might be working with these 2 categories of individuals...so i'm a bit confused and worried...knowing that before ordering the PC, i should've ask the whole thing with the fingerprints even if i have no record...
Thanks!


Mine was the same way.. And MOntreal accepted the certificate no problems. It seems to be standard from all the PC i've ever ordered (3-4)

Curiously i got the same paper 2 years ago for a volenteer position i was doing at a children's camp with the same stamp on the back.. and they accepted it!! Dunno why they do that, but the organization that i worked for accepted it! smile.gif good.gif
knowledge
Misa, Tinker, Cartoboy, Emancipation, how can I thank you, you are true dolls!!! heart.gif I am glad Emancipation to see i'm not alone and it seems to be a standard in some regions. BTW, i have read that for ex in Mtl, the rcmp offices are not original ones, but private companies...quite surprising...
Sorry also to come in so late, i had to catch up with stuff after putting the energies in the ds-230.
Thank you again very much!!!
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