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gemini23nj
Sorry guys, but I just have to rant, yet again over my husband not being eligible for a NJ drivers license. First, back in April of 2005, we showed up to DMV, he had enough "points" to obtain a license, however there was only a month left on his k-1 visa, no he did not qualify.(must be valid at least 90 days). They asked us why we waited.. hmm lets see it took almost 60 days to get the SS #, to then open a bank account to have the 6 points needed to qualify!! ok they sent us away stating, come back when you get your letter of confirmation that AOS is processing.

Ok, 2nd visit, showed up with the letter, sorry you need to have the APPROVAL letter.. bye bye.


Return 3rd visit,December of 2005, once we FINALLY received the EAD card. Opppss what do you know, USCIS $%^& up my husband date of birth, Feb. 17, 2005...... hmmmm yes my husband in 10 month old now... well, because of the typo.. bye, bye again. We were told come back with the AP approved.

Returned 4th visit in January with the AP document. Sorry, you must actually use the AP, please come back once you leave the country, and return with your valid I-94. Do you sense my anger yet??

Well, my husband took a quick trip to see his mom in February. and yesterday again went to attempt to get his license.. AP document stamped, I-94 arrival record valid for a year... we are ready right... ha,ha,ha
I guess I laugh not to cry.

WE ARE SORRY, WE NO LONGER ACCEPT THIS FORM OF PROOF OF RESIDENCY/LEGAL STATUS TO OBTAIN A NJ DRIVERS LICENSE.

Our interview is scheduled for four weeks from now, so I am not going to make myself sick over this, but jesus.... No branch of government works with the next, they can't get ANYTHING right when it comes to processing our applications, or to facilitate the basic necesities for those of us that have done things the right way, and now, the foolish politicians think USCIS can take on ANY additional burden. This is just plain wrong!! ok, I am done ranting, thank you all for listening. crying.gif
raymaga
Go ahead and rant away!!! I totally understand your frustrations. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing with any of these government agencies, least of all USCIS.

I presume if they don't give your husband his licence on the next visit, we may be hearing about this on the news!!!!! unsure.gif
gemini23nj
QUOTE(raymaga @ Apr 5 2006, 09:00 PM) *

Go ahead and rant away!!! I totally understand your frustrations. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing with any of these government agencies, least of all USCIS.

I presume if they don't give your husband his licence on the next visit, we may be hearing about this on the news!!!!! unsure.gif




ha,ha,ha maybe, you will find me calling CNN for an IMMEDIATE PRESS CONFERENCE. laughing.gif
PEGGY
Thats just crazy.

Give him the dam drivers lisense yes.gif
chocolaterie
yes, ranting is healthy! and dmv.. don't get me started.
*entitlements_yay
Sorry to hear that. Our civil servants can be so frustrating at times...
Good luck next time....wink.gif
TracyTN
This may be an obvious question, but have you tried going to a different DMV office? Maybe that one is where they employ all the morons.

Personally I would bring all those documents to another DMV office and not leave there until they gave him a license. Demand to speak to a supervisor or something. There is no excuse for any of that.
rejane


When I went to the dmv they asked me for my Noa from Aos....
Did you bring the noa from Aos with you....
Good luck hope you get better luck next times I know he can be frustrating some times with the dmv...
kerewin21
OMG I would have exploded with anger by now if I were you.

I agree, if you have the time, try another DMV office, they might not have received the "memo" saying they no longer accept AP as proof....
knadik
Does he have a driver's license from his home country? My husband does and since the DMV said he wasn't a resident (cause, like your husband, he cant prove to their standards that he trully lives here), he is a visitor. Well, visitors with foreign licenses can drive in the United States for up to one year...so, our conclusion: they consider him a visitor, he can drive. Anyway, that has been our solution cause the two different DMVs that we have gone to are quite unflexible and won't listen.
anya-D
QUOTE(knadik @ Apr 7 2006, 08:31 AM) *

Does he have a driver's license from his home country? My husband does and since the DMV said he wasn't a resident (cause, like your husband, he cant prove to their standards that he trully lives here), he is a visitor. Well, visitors with foreign licenses can drive in the United States for up to one year...so, our conclusion: they consider him a visitor, he can drive. Anyway, that has been our solution cause the two different DMVs that we have gone to are quite unflexible and won't listen.



when my dad came for a visit, my husband asked the dmv and they said the same thing.. he can drive here with Thai driving licence.. may be you can do the same as they consider your huband a visitor? hope everything work out for u!!
gemini23nj
QUOTE(knadik @ Apr 7 2006, 08:31 AM) *

Does he have a driver's license from his home country? My husband does and since the DMV said he wasn't a resident (cause, like your husband, he cant prove to their standards that he trully lives here), he is a visitor. Well, visitors with foreign licenses can drive in the United States for up to one year...so, our conclusion: they consider him a visitor, he can drive. Anyway, that has been our solution cause the two different DMVs that we have gone to are quite unflexible and won't listen.



That is exactly what DMV told us to do....HOWEVER... (oh the irony, really) He was stopped for a routine check, and was given a ticket for being an unlicensed driver, even after showing the police officer a international drivers license, and a license from Costa Rica. The prosecutor actually dropped the charges, but it was pure aggravation!
Baileyj96
I was doing some research on this one at my local dmv. They require that he drives with a learners permit for 90 days (i think) prior to recieving his license. They also said that if he had an international drivers license he would drive at the same time he was holding the learners permit. LOL This sounds so very ignorant. Now the trick is finding some reasonable insurance. That should be a real treat too.

Good luck,
Baileyj
nyc
QUOTE(gemini23nj @ Apr 5 2006, 07:53 PM) *

Sorry guys, but I just have to rant, yet again over my husband not being eligible for a NJ drivers license. First, back in April of 2005, we showed up to DMV, he had enough "points" to obtain a license, however there was only a month left on his k-1 visa, no he did not qualify.(must be valid at least 90 days). They asked us why we waited.. hmm lets see it took almost 60 days to get the SS #, to then open a bank account to have the 6 points needed to qualify!! ok they sent us away stating, come back when you get your letter of confirmation that AOS is processing.

Ok, 2nd visit, showed up with the letter, sorry you need to have the APPROVAL letter.. bye bye.


Return 3rd visit,December of 2005, once we FINALLY received the EAD card. Opppss what do you know, USCIS $%^& up my husband date of birth, Feb. 17, 2005...... hmmmm yes my husband in 10 month old now... well, because of the typo.. bye, bye again. We were told come back with the AP approved.

Returned 4th visit in January with the AP document. Sorry, you must actually use the AP, please come back once you leave the country, and return with your valid I-94. Do you sense my anger yet??

Well, my husband took a quick trip to see his mom in February. and yesterday again went to attempt to get his license.. AP document stamped, I-94 arrival record valid for a year... we are ready right... ha,ha,ha
I guess I laugh not to cry.

WE ARE SORRY, WE NO LONGER ACCEPT THIS FORM OF PROOF OF RESIDENCY/LEGAL STATUS TO OBTAIN A NJ DRIVERS LICENSE.

Our interview is scheduled for four weeks from now, so I am not going to make myself sick over this, but jesus.... No branch of government works with the next, they can't get ANYTHING right when it comes to processing our applications, or to facilitate the basic necesities for those of us that have done things the right way, and now, the foolish politicians think USCIS can take on ANY additional burden. This is just plain wrong!! ok, I am done ranting, thank you all for listening. crying.gif


Sorry to hear about all this...
I also tried to get a NJ id and they refused it because I didn't have the SS under my married name, I did have the SS under my maiden name... I did have the letter though that they're about to issue the new card.
Not enough!!!

And of course I need an id to show that we have the same address at the interview.
Our interview is May 31st , hopefully the new card will come...

All the best,

Anna
meddykomp
I am so sorry that your husband is having such a hard time doing something that should be simple.
noviademexicano
I would definately try another office, armed with files of bank statements, utility bills, marriage certificate, and of course all papework recieved from INS, and passport w/record of entry/departure. Under the 6 point system your spouse should have more than enough evidence to get the license, if you can't get that get the state issued ID.
Don't accept there bull ask to speak to a supervisor and if the supervisor gives you a hard time ask them who is the person above them and how you can contact them.
Cassie
QUOTE(gemini23nj @ Apr 7 2006, 10:23 PM) *

QUOTE(knadik @ Apr 7 2006, 08:31 AM) *

Does he have a driver's license from his home country? My husband does and since the DMV said he wasn't a resident (cause, like your husband, he cant prove to their standards that he trully lives here), he is a visitor. Well, visitors with foreign licenses can drive in the United States for up to one year...so, our conclusion: they consider him a visitor, he can drive. Anyway, that has been our solution cause the two different DMVs that we have gone to are quite unflexible and won't listen.



That is exactly what DMV told us to do....HOWEVER... (oh the irony, really) He was stopped for a routine check, and was given a ticket for being an unlicensed driver, even after showing the police officer a international drivers license, and a license from Costa Rica. The prosecutor actually dropped the charges, but it was pure aggravation!



Yeah, I was told that as well ("you can use your valid Canadian DL, just don't do anything to get a ticket"). I never drove so well in my life! whistling.gif

Sorry that it's taking so long to get your hubby's DL. Oklahoma (depending on the office) will give a temporary DL to K-1ers who have their EADs (but the DL is only valid as long as the EAD is valid). I didn't bother to go back after my EAD arrived, because then I would have to go back again once the green card arrived. Not worth the aggravation.

Didn't the 9-11 terrorists come in on student or visitor's visas and were able to successfully get DLs in Florida? Methinks that's why most if not all the DMVs are sticklers on the residency requirements these days?
gemini23nj
Hello all! Just to answer some of the questions that I have read. We did in fact have all of our NOA letters, and ever other imaginable piece of valid paperwork.

The DMV that we are using is the only designated office that will handle international license transfers,that is one reason we didn't go to another DMV. I could go down and demand a supervisor, but I know me, and I am so frustrated with the chain of events, I am truly afraid that I will have an emotional breakdown. My husbands aos interview is a few weeks away, we have waited this long, why not a few more weeks!

Several other states are much easier to obtain drivers licenses. There are many, many residents, most not even legal in the USA that travel as far as Tennesse and Michigan to obtain a drivers license, because it is so easy.


In regard to driving and having a learners permit. If you don't meet the point system, you do not qualify for the permit either, they just send you on your way. wacko.gif
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