Yeah, this is going to make an interesting mess for us, if we have to file naturalization papers before getting our 10 year GC. It'll be a race to see which one gets adjudicated first, and we'll be in a weird limbo.

yes, they'd probably start blaming each other then - like "can't process N400 because I751 not adjudicated yet"... and "will adjudicate I751 at N400 interview".... lol .... lot's of exciting times ahead of us ...

exciting wasn't quite the word I was visualizing Let's have a running bet to see how many times we will hear the above phrases

I had the crazy idea my wife would be able to vote in the presidential election next year, then I realized TSC would be handling her N400. Maybe it will be done in time for the 2012 election.

Heh, we have another Loser, ladies and gentlemen! Welcoming imailin! Now Reinhard won't feel so alone having the only June NOA1.

UserName............Date I-751 sent...NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Last Touch......Approved
fragile093..........01/27/07..........01/31/07........03/03/07........03/11/07........11/08/07........senator involved
shobey..............02/01/07..........02/01/07........03/07/07........11/17/07........--/--/--
ven2lin.............02/01/07..........02/05/07........11/14/07........11/14/07........--/--/--........senator involved
Dr. ZoSo............02/02/07..........02/06/07........03/14/07........03/15/07........--/--/--........senator involved
bimmerboy...........02/01/07..........02/09/07........03/??/07........03/13/07........--/--/--........senator involved
JLR.................02/06/07..........02/09/07........03/15/07........03/15/07........11/07/07........senator involved
vumbi...............01/28/07..........02/15/07........03/14/07........03/14/07........--/--/--........senator involved
markwash02..........02/14/07..........--/--/--........11/20/07........--/--/--........--/--/--
A_C.................02/18/07..........02/21/07........03/15/07........03/19/07........--/--/--
lovedolphins........02/21/07..........02/28/07........05/14/07........05/15/07........--/--/--........senator involved
ihateemo............??/??/07..........03/03/07........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--
tweety..............03/06/07..........03/09/07........04/06/07........04/07/07........--/--/--........service request
George0424..........03/07/07..........03/12/07........04/05/07........04/06/07........--/--/--
burs................03/15/07..........03/19/07........04/12/07........04/13/07........--/--/--
kn687...............02/27/07..........03/21/07........03/29/07........03/31/07........--/--/--........service request
Abygail.............03/14/07..........03/29/07........04/21/07........04/23/07........--/--/--
mississippigal17....03/26/07..........04/10/07........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--
us1415..............04/09/07..........04/18/07........05/12/07........05/15/07........--/--/--
James...............04/18/07..........04/20/07........05/31/07........06/03/07........--/--/--
Angel7422...........04/20/07..........04/25/07........05/24/07........05/29/07........--/--/--
Cassie..............05/08/07..........05/09/07........06/04/07........06/05/07........--/--/--
baunzerbrudi........05/11/07..........05/19/07........06/14/07........06/19/07........--/--/--
rhenryv.............05/17/07..........05/30/07........06/18/07........--/--/--........--/--/--
imailin.............06/01/07..........06/07/07........08/??/07........??/??/??........--/--/--
Mr.Bigdog...........06/06/07..........06/19/07........08/30/07........08/31/07........--/--/--

I guess you can take my name off of the TSC looser list as my case has been sent back to my local office. I am no longer waiting on the TSC. It's funny though, my on-line status still hasn't changed since my last touch on 3/15 for my Bio.

It is a long wait.....

Nah, Doc, we'll keep you on the list as a TSC Loser® who's just gone local for whatever reason. (Maybe b/c TSC just can't handle things!) Just keep us posted and let us know what happens!

Aye this may be a new trend.

Imagine that...me...a trend setter!

Received my wife's green card over the Thanksgiving Holiday. Opened the envelope and the her name was correct but USCIS included her maiden name. Not really sure if we should file a I-90 to correct the error or just leave as is. Her conditional green card was correct. Any thoughts on this new problem.

2012? Don't push it. You really expect those useless fcuks to actually lift a finger within the next 5 years?

I'd have it corrected.

Well, well, aren't our friends at TSC a piece of work? My first thought would be to have it corrected, too -- if this was a USCIS error, there's no filing fee. However, you have to give up the incorrect card and send it with the I-90 to . . . TSC. They're taking "6 months" to process I-90s right now. I imagine that means you would have to get an InfoPass appointment so you could get an I-551 stamp in the passport . . . .

A thought related to all this TSC mess just crossed my mind this morning.
In order for me to get the US citizenship and retain my German one, I will have to apply to German authorities for a certain document. Now this document is only valid for 24 months; given that TSC is processing N400 (as they say) within 16-18 months....; and the fact that I will have to get the document before I apply for US citizenship.... will there be enough time for my document not to expire before I take the oath? I think I will have to wait for the processing times to go down again, before I will jump into the naturalization adventure... now that is really messed up.

I keep looking at that letter my wife received about her file being moved to our local office in Atlanta.

Well today I noticed a new receipt number on the letter. Keep in mind that this is a simple form letter printed out on plain printer paper with the blanks simply filled in with the correct name, A#, etc.

I tried to enter the receipt number on the USCIS web site under my account but of course the computer said the number was no good. It is an SRC number.


This keeps getting more interesting.

That's a TSC number all right. I have no idea why they would assign you a new number before shipping the file off to your local office.

I know you said you were going to wait a few days, but I'd make that InfoPass appointment right away. You can always cancel it or just not go if by some remote chance you're suddenly approved before the appointment. Although I don't know how you would find that out other than by snail mail at this point.

Uggggh, I see a couple of people got approvals and then nothing more. What a tease.

For the benefit of the Losers chart, my last touch was 04/11/2007 - I had my biometrics done a few days before that (not sure off the top of my head without digging up the paperwork).

Siiiiiiiigh.

updating ihateemo last touch date

UserName............Date I-751 sent...NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Last Touch......Approved
fragile093..........01/27/07..........01/31/07........03/03/07........03/11/07........11/08/07........senator involved
shobey..............02/01/07..........02/01/07........03/07/07........11/17/07........--/--/--
ven2lin.............02/01/07..........02/05/07........11/14/07........11/14/07........--/--/--........senator involved
Dr. ZoSo............02/02/07..........02/06/07........03/14/07........03/15/07........--/--/--........senator involved
bimmerboy...........02/01/07..........02/09/07........03/??/07........03/13/07........--/--/--........senator involved
JLR.................02/06/07..........02/09/07........03/15/07........03/15/07........11/07/07........senator involved
vumbi...............01/28/07..........02/15/07........03/14/07........03/14/07........--/--/--........senator involved
markwash02..........02/14/07..........--/--/--........11/20/07........--/--/--........--/--/--
A_C.................02/18/07..........02/21/07........03/15/07........03/19/07........--/--/--
lovedolphins........02/21/07..........02/28/07........05/14/07........05/15/07........--/--/--........senator involved
ihateemo............??/??/07..........03/03/07........04/??/07........04/11/07........--/--/--
tweety..............03/06/07..........03/09/07........04/06/07........04/07/07........--/--/--........service request
George0424..........03/07/07..........03/12/07........04/05/07........04/06/07........--/--/--
burs................03/15/07..........03/19/07........04/12/07........04/13/07........--/--/--
kn687...............02/27/07..........03/21/07........03/29/07........03/31/07........--/--/--........service request
Abygail.............03/14/07..........03/29/07........04/21/07........04/23/07........--/--/--
mississippigal17....03/26/07..........04/10/07........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--
us1415..............04/09/07..........04/18/07........05/12/07........05/15/07........--/--/--
James...............04/18/07..........04/20/07........05/31/07........06/03/07........--/--/--
Angel7422...........04/20/07..........04/25/07........05/24/07........05/29/07........--/--/--
Cassie..............05/08/07..........05/09/07........06/04/07........06/05/07........--/--/--
baunzerbrudi........05/11/07..........05/19/07........06/14/07........06/19/07........--/--/--
rhenryv.............05/17/07..........05/30/07........06/18/07........--/--/--........--/--/--
imailin.............06/01/07..........06/07/07........08/??/07........??/??/??........--/--/--
Mr.Bigdog...........06/06/07..........06/19/07........08/30/07........08/31/07........--/--/--

I had also thought about that but then I discovered something interesting. When making an Info Pass appointment it tells you what address to go to. When I did a trial appointment for my wife's case the only address it would allow us to go to is some service center in Atlanta which is not the actual Atlanta regional office. However as I stated before the address on the letter to send all correspondences to is the actual Atlanta district office on MKL Jr. Drive. I don't really know what good it would to us in the interim to just go to another service center where all they will tell us is what's in the computer.

At least they might be able to tell you what's going on, that is, why the petition was transferred to a local office and what to expect. Also, I know USCIS is building a couple of satellite local offices to take the pressure of the main local office in Miami proper . . . maybe they've done the same thing in Atlanta.

I just got off the phone with the USCIS National Customer Service Center. I decided to call and ask them why my wife's application was sent back to the Atlanta District office. The operator that picked up was nice and friendly although she did sound as if she was talking from a computer screen in a monotone voice.

Anyone see that movie "Idiocracy" with Owen Wilson? Remember that part of the movie when he was being led to the testing center to see how smart he was....so he could get a jail job...The guard in that scene reminded me of the lady answering the phone. Or, she reminded me of him...."ok sir...were here to determine how smart you are so you can be a particular individual with a job while in jail"....



The CSR was able to confirm one thing for me. My wife's application was sent back to the Atlanta office because she is going to be called back in for a second interview prior to being approved. Looks like I will need to get the files back out and have plenty of copies ready to go!

While a pain in the butt, at least it looks like there will be action on your case.
I'd take that over sitting and waiting while nothing happens any day.

God Luck!

I really thought we'd be seeing some movement here with all of the people we have bunched up with early February NOA1s after fragile's approval. I mean, she had a 1/31 NOA1 and was approved almost a month ago. So you'd think someone from the early February crowd would have been approved by now.

I guess they just pulled hers out by accident when they were forced by Senator Cornyn to approve JLR's, and didn't put it back in the box that they returned to the janitorial closet in the basement men's room.

My personal theory regarding those two approvals is simply that they've contacted their Texas senators.....

Exactly!

Oh, yeah, I forgot that Francesca was in Texas. I thought she hadn't heard anything back from her senator, though. Guess she didn't need to.

I can't even contact my senator b/c I'm still within the processing time. If they keep that time in early April as they have for the past two months, TSC can just keep stringing me along.

On a related note, I read on another forum (the British expats) a comment by someone who recently had an InfoPass at a local Texas office, and was told that TSC had been swamped by N400 filings just prior to the fee increase, and had put all of the I-751s on the back burner so they could handle the N400s (which they're still not doing a very good job of). The poster was told that TSC would not get to the I-751s until sometime in the first quarter of 2008, meaning a year-plus wait for some people . . . .

Woooooo hoooooo!!!! Success!!!!

I just want to say that there is hope out there for all the TSC’rs. I have been lurking on the TSC thread for months now and nothing, nothing, nothing. I, too, have been waiting forever, and just today we found out that my husband’s card was ordered.

His NOA date was February 5, 2007 and his biometrics were March 21, 2007, with the last touch being on March 24, 2007. I kept thinking Dear God don’t let us get an RFE or an interview – we naturally, like everyone else, hate to have to go in and open up our private lives - again, for some disinterested immigration officer.

Today, I took a moment to go to his email and was shocked when I saw a notice from CRIS. My heart stopped when I realized that he was approved. This really has to be the best Christmas present, or Chanukah (if I was Jewish), as today is the first day of Chanukah. We have called everyone we know to tell them the great news. We’re so excited because now we can apply for citizenship next month.

I wish you all the best. Don’t give up hope. Stay strong and fight the TSC power.

Staashi

Wow, a closet TSC Loser®!!!

In the immortal words of a certain poster:

Congratulations

Seriously, I'm happy for you and yours -- and that the TSC might actually be moving.

Tweety, how's your theory doing???

fingers crossed.. for tsc this week

regarding tweety's theory i got my senator involved months ago and i havent heard squat.. they were not that interested because cases where they were citizens took priority... as quoted from the senators office

I'd been wondering if you had heard anything since you have the same NOA1 date as our closet Loser. Looks like you are next to go! Are you checking the USCIS case status site hourly?

I know this is silly, but can someone update the list with Staashi's info? It's nice to see another approval on our List 'O Losers.

Adding and updating Staashi!!!

UserName............Date I-751 sent...NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Last Touch......Approved
fragile093..........01/27/07..........01/31/07........03/03/07........03/11/07........11/08/07........senator involved
shobey..............02/01/07..........02/01/07........03/07/07........11/17/07........--/--/--
Staashi.............??/??/07..........02/05/07........03/21/07........03/24/07........12/04/07
ven2lin.............02/01/07..........02/05/07........11/14/07........11/14/07........--/--/--........senator involved
Dr. ZoSo............02/02/07..........02/06/07........03/14/07........03/15/07........--/--/--........senator involved
bimmerboy...........02/01/07..........02/09/07........03/??/07........03/13/07........--/--/--........senator involved
JLR.................02/06/07..........02/09/07........03/15/07........03/15/07........11/07/07........senator involved
vumbi...............01/28/07..........02/15/07........03/14/07........03/14/07........--/--/--........senator involved
markwash02..........02/14/07..........--/--/--........11/20/07........--/--/--........--/--/--
A_C.................02/18/07..........02/21/07........03/15/07........03/19/07........--/--/--
lovedolphins........02/21/07..........02/28/07........05/14/07........05/15/07........--/--/--........senator involved
ihateemo............??/??/07..........03/03/07........04/??/07........04/11/07........--/--/--
tweety..............03/06/07..........03/09/07........04/06/07........04/07/07........--/--/--........service request
George0424..........03/07/07..........03/12/07........04/05/07........04/06/07........--/--/--
burs................03/15/07..........03/19/07........04/12/07........04/13/07........--/--/--
kn687...............02/27/07..........03/21/07........03/29/07........03/31/07........--/--/--........service request
Abygail.............03/14/07..........03/29/07........04/21/07........04/23/07........--/--/--
mississippigal17....03/26/07..........04/10/07........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--
us1415..............04/09/07..........04/18/07........05/12/07........05/15/07........--/--/--
James...............04/18/07..........04/20/07........05/31/07........06/03/07........--/--/--
Angel7422...........04/20/07..........04/25/07........05/24/07........05/29/07........--/--/--
Cassie..............05/08/07..........05/09/07........06/04/07........06/05/07........--/--/--
baunzerbrudi........05/11/07..........05/19/07........06/14/07........06/19/07........--/--/--
rhenryv.............05/17/07..........05/30/07........06/18/07........--/--/--........--/--/--
imailin.............06/01/07..........06/07/07........08/??/07........??/??/??........--/--/--
Mr.Bigdog...........06/06/07..........06/19/07........08/30/07........08/31/07........--/--/--

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Thanks for adding us to the list of proud Losers. Our mailing date was 1/27/07. Also, I will say that although I was scared we were going to get RFE'd, we did send in a lot of financial documentation such as property appraiser bill with both of our names, life insurance policies, auto insurance cards, bank statements from joint account, drivers licenses reflecting our home address and same names, etc. We only had two affidavits, mom and sister, and no pictures. Our whole goal was to put out anything and everything that showed that our lives are comingled.

One more thing, we did call the main customer service line two months ago and early last week we received a letter saying that nothing had happened in our case. I don't know, maybe it spurred things along.

We are just pleased as punch though and can't be more excited to have this done.

You da best James!

fyi.. had a infopass appointment today ... they stamped my passport .. should be good for me to travel .. even though I have my extension letter ...
immigration officer also reiterated that because of the fee increase earlier in the year that's what has held up all applications..

Did they also explain why TSC is straight out lying with their published processing times? I'd be thrilled to hear an answer to this... but I know I will likely never get one.

Did I ever mention that I start to get really sick reading those "piece-a-cake" we got approved in not time with minimal evidence through CSC memo posts?! Makes you want to... well you know what.

Sorry for the venting.... I will go back in my corner now.

I'll look at my crystal ball again - to see if the theory changed - chances are... like always it's a new answer every day... kinda like calling the USCIS customer service line

I love it how these boneheads explained that they needed a fee increase to reduce the backlog, and then the fee increase ends up creating even more of a backlog.

Did they confiscate your expired green card? I understood from other folks that when your passport is stamped, they make you cough up the green card.

Heh heh, I for one revel in your testiness because I secretly (well, maybe not so now) feel like doing this:

Well, it's not their fault, it's USCIS, or TSC to be precise, but still . . . .

It's been almost 2 months since we got our Senator involved.

I am both concerned - and depressed - at the fact that despite this intervention, our application has not been touched since last May ('07).

What do you think is taking so long? Is this normal?

:-(

I honestly don't think there is anything normal at all anymore. With the TSC, normal is what we've all been going through. Furthermore, I don't even think they care about senator involvement. Think about how many apps they're processing now. Can you imagine how many senators and congressmen are involved - they probably are using the letters as kindling. I also would have to say that no news is probably good news. I have a feeling if you were going to get RFE'd it would have happened sooner.

I think it really is just a crapshoot now. I don't know how we got our's approved. I have a feeling they were playing darts and hit ours.

They didn't take my greencard away.. to be honest I didn't even take it.. I didn't mention about the processing times on the website.. should of done really ..
sit n wait again..

I hear ya, and understand fully -- hence me staying pretty much in this thread. And I am near the bottom of the Loser list, can't imagine how you guys ahead of me feel, other than

I'm closing in on the 9 months mark soon - I'm thrilled about this mile-marker.... who would have guessed I'd make it there....

The day number in your signature coundown clock is more impressive: 273 days! 273 days of your petition just sitting there collecting dust, day after day after day.

I'm trying so stay chipper but after seeing the two folks who filed at the end of September get approved (transfered to CSC from NSC), I feel like throwing up. Late September! My God, their green cards haven't even expired yet.

I'm going to go bite the heads off some pigeons in the park across the street.

Just don't swallow them, k???