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StillThePrettiest
Jan 20 2008, 05:07 AM
QUOTE(mox @ Jan 19 2008, 07:48 PM) *
Try to look at it like this: As long as you're within your 6 month approval timeline, it's all good. It's hard to see VSC approving filers left and right while CSC seems to have taken a permanent nap, but as it stands right now everyone except pre-July filers are still within the USCIS timeline. CSC can't keep this pace (for very small values of "pace") up forever. Eventually they're going to have to start breaking K-1's out, and when they do August and September are going to go really fast, as will October and then November. Hold on to that thought and don't let the process drive you crazy. smile.gif

moxie, you speak SOUND SENSE yes.gif



in other news, here are some lists:


Latest 20 K1 NOA2s from CSC

CODE
           Names                                    NOA1           NOA2
       1   Dale & Juanita                       8/06/2007     17/01/2008
       2   TinTin & Samby                      17/07/2007     17/01/2008
       3   Hermily & Ken                       28/06/2007     17/01/2008
       4   Christine & Nick                    27/08/2007     14/01/2008
       5   Saokun & David                      23/08/2007     14/01/2008
       6   Junnell & Christo                   22/08/2007     14/01/2008
       7   LB & DR                             27/07/2007     11/01/2008
       8   Maylee & Rob                        17/07/2007     11/01/2008
       9   Jindrich & Wenona                   27/08/2007     10/01/2008
      10   Anouar & Lorraine                   22/08/2007     10/01/2008
      11   xian & jesse                        18/08/2007      8/01/2008
      12   Adriana & Sebastian                 26/07/2007      4/01/2008
      13   renoo & warren                      12/07/2007      4/01/2008
      14   Ana & Tim                           18/07/2007     ?/01/2008
      15   Claudia & Joe                       24/07/2007      4/01/2008
      16   Sakina & Khong                      19/10/2007      3/01/2008
      17   Catheryn & Danny                    17/08/2007      3/01/2008
      18   Piero & Britta                       7/08/2007      3/01/2008
      19   Vinny & Dawn                         5/07/2007      3/01/2008
      20   A L & C M                           22/08/2007      2/01/2008



Timelines updated to show NOA2s since the last list:

CODE
           Names                                    NOA1           NOA2
       1   Dale & Juanita                       8/06/2007     17/01/2008
       2   TinTin & Samby                      17/07/2007     17/01/2008
       3   Hermily & Ken                       28/06/2007     17/01/2008
       4   Christine & Nick                    27/08/2007     14/01/2008
       5   Saokun & David                      23/08/2007     14/01/2008
       6   Junnell & Christo                   22/08/2007     14/01/2008
       7   LB & DR                             27/07/2007     11/01/2008
       8   Maylee & Rob                        17/07/2007     11/01/2008
       9   Jindrich & Wenona                   27/08/2007     10/01/2008
      10   xian & jesse                        18/08/2007      8/01/2008
      11   Adriana & Sebastian                 26/07/2007      4/01/2008



Those still waiting...

CODE
           Names                       NOA1
       1   Maria & John                      18/06/2007
       2   U & lab                           18/06/2007
       3   sadsad & dwdasd                   20/06/2007
       4   uyen & kc                         20/06/2007
       5   graham & stacy                    20/06/2007
       6   Lorena & Michael                  21/06/2007
       7   Ekaterina & David                 21/06/2007
       8   Behnaz & Robin                    21/06/2007
       9   Me & Him                          22/06/2007
      10   Yana & Don                        22/06/2007
      11   zrw & dmy                         24/06/2007
      12   Yana & Josh                       25/06/2007
      13   Kampong & Wade                    26/06/2007
      14   Aaron & Falyn                     26/06/2007
      15   Sarrah & Steve                    26/06/2007
      16   paul & alanna                     26/06/2007
      17   Salliee & Cameron                 27/06/2007
      18   Rosalyn & Robert                  28/06/2007
      19   Hesham & Karima                    1/07/2007
      20   Lisa & Ty                          2/07/2007
      21   emily & torre                      5/07/2007
      22   Ha & Lee                          10/07/2007
      23   shann & ian                       10/07/2007
      24   jorge & Elena                     11/07/2007
      25   LEI & DAN                         12/07/2007
      26   Natalia & Billy                   12/07/2007
      27   Phillip & Audrey                  13/07/2007
      28   Jeremy & Debbie                   13/07/2007
      29   Imran & erin                      16/07/2007
      30   Kris & Ray                        17/07/2007
      31   Curtis & Caitlyn                  17/07/2007
      32   C & J                             17/07/2007
      33   jennilyn & mike                   18/07/2007
      34   Janaina & Isaias                  19/07/2007
      35   Z & J                             20/07/2007
      36   Cesar & Kathy                     20/07/2007
      37   khwan & kit                       20/07/2007
      38   Shady & Tracy                     23/07/2007
      39   Alina & Daniel                    25/07/2007
      40   Shevona & Sinclair                26/07/2007
      41   kike & Kunle                      26/07/2007
      42   Lise & Tom                        26/07/2007
      43   FRANCISCO & VILMA                 26/07/2007
      44   Cora & Richard                    26/07/2007
      45   Jyueru & Curt                     27/07/2007
      46   Elena & Rusty                     27/07/2007
      47   Wendee & Juan Carlos              27/07/2007
      48   Melanie & Omar                    27/07/2007
      49   Inna & Timothy                    30/07/2007
      50   Tarik & Siobhan                   31/07/2007
      51   Anca & Dan                        31/07/2007
      52   Susie & Martin                    31/07/2007
      53   Yumi & Alex                        1/08/2007
      54   Katae & John                       2/08/2007
      55   Barry & Susan                      2/08/2007
      56   MariaJose & Rick                   3/08/2007
      57   Sapi & Napi                        6/08/2007
      58   Elina & Igor                       7/08/2007
      59   L & J                              7/08/2007
      60   Eun Ok & Wei                       8/08/2007
      61   JEAN MARIE & BOB                  10/08/2007
      62   Fei & Marc                        10/08/2007
      63   Jean & Bob                        10/08/2007
      64   Editha & Matthew                  11/08/2007
      65   Bonnie & Jason                    13/08/2007
      66   Sonia S Bacante & John A Fri      13/08/2007
      67   yingying & dale                   13/08/2007
      68   Chutima & Merrill                 14/08/2007
      69   Arnel & Claudette                 14/08/2007
      70   anousone & phonesack              15/08/2007
      71   Lena & Tony                       15/08/2007
      72   Svetlana & James                  16/08/2007
      73   L & J                             16/08/2007
      74   Nik & Marilyn                     17/08/2007
      75   My love & Mahal Ko                17/08/2007
      76   Mario & Meghan                    17/08/2007
      77   Claudia & Moreta                  17/08/2007
      78   Ania & Alex                       18/08/2007
      79   Lynn & Tony                       20/08/2007
      80   Parboti & Shiv                    21/08/2007
      81   Kristel & Ryan                    22/08/2007
      82   Lek & Jeff                        23/08/2007
      83   Masumi & Adam                     23/08/2007
      84   Joe & Meg                         24/08/2007
      85   Mai Anh & James                   24/08/2007
      86   ella & steven                     24/08/2007
      87   Alasdair & Elaine                 25/08/2007
      88   Jorge & Jennifer                  27/08/2007
      89   Brigmer & Kate                    27/08/2007
      90   Eppie & Michael                   28/08/2007
      91   Brian & Marianne                  29/08/2007
      92   Euna & Steve                      29/08/2007
      93   Jan & Tim                         29/08/2007
      94   Ciela & regholdsworth             31/08/2007
      95   Nymous & Ano                      31/08/2007
      96   running deer & ashlan             31/08/2007
      97   David & Diana                      4/09/2007
      98   Asachan & Phillip                  4/09/2007
      99   Natalya & Nathan                   4/09/2007
     100   ni & nj                            6/09/2007
     101   Rustem & Katerina                  7/09/2007
     102   Phil & Jen                         7/09/2007
     103   roxy & lito                       10/09/2007
     104   W & D                             10/09/2007
     105   Yassine & Martha                  11/09/2007
     106   Chantrea & Jesse                  12/09/2007
     107   Daly & Matt                       13/09/2007
     108   Nadya & Kirk                      13/09/2007
     109   Dijani & Norman                   19/09/2007
     110   Kami & Mari                       19/09/2007
     111   Stefan & Georgiana                20/09/2007
     112   tonya & darrin                    20/09/2007
     113   Natasha & Peter                   22/09/2007
     114   Sercan & Cristen                  24/09/2007
     115   Eike & Jack                       24/09/2007
     116   Nate & Brian                      24/09/2007
     117   rose & charles                    25/09/2007
     118   Juliana & Brian                   26/09/2007
     119   Mary & Jon                        26/09/2007
     120   Sugar zhu & Honey bear            26/09/2007
     121   Taka & Joe                        26/09/2007
     122   Handan & Kenny                    26/09/2007
     123   Mark & Jo                         26/09/2007
     124   MESKI & AJ                        26/09/2007
     125   Michael & Jennifer                26/09/2007
     126   kat & cebu15                      27/09/2007
     127   Tracy & Jesse                     27/09/2007
     128   Wilaiwan & James                  27/09/2007
     129   g & m                             28/09/2007
     130   Angela & Jeff                     29/09/2007
     131   H & M                              1/10/2007
     132   Carlos & Svetlana                  1/10/2007
     133   S & V                              1/10/2007
     134   M & V                              2/10/2007
     135   Sachiko & Adam                     2/10/2007
     136   Alicia & Tim                       2/10/2007
     137   D & J                              2/10/2007
     138   Maylin & Terry                     2/10/2007
     139   ilvas & AAhmad                     2/10/2007
     140   Fayanne & Elery                    3/10/2007
     141   Anna & John                        3/10/2007
     142   Wenju & Nathan                     3/10/2007
     143   Ronan & Mercedes                   4/10/2007
     144   Lucky 5 & Lucky 7                  4/10/2007
     145   Angelito & Doyet                   5/10/2007
     146   Vian & James                       5/10/2007
     147   Perviz & Sara                      5/10/2007
     148   Adelfa & Philip                    5/10/2007
     149   todd & maria                       8/10/2007
     150   Lyuba & Brent                      9/10/2007
     151   Jo & Dave                         10/10/2007
     152   Tom & Mia                         10/10/2007
     153   Natasha & Bob                     10/10/2007
     154   Natasha & James                   11/10/2007
     155   Retchel & samuel                  11/10/2007
     156   Chantal & Billy                   11/10/2007
     157   Xixi & David                      11/10/2007
     158   s & m                             11/10/2007
     159   Tatiana & David                   11/10/2007
     160   yoshie & kevin                    12/10/2007
     161   Natalie & Gerwin                  12/10/2007
     162   Oey & Roger                       12/10/2007
     163   Klaire Kiss & Martin              12/10/2007
     164   Yoko & Scott                      12/10/2007
     165   Sirinut & Mike                    15/10/2007
     166   Raphael & Maya                    15/10/2007
     167   Laurence & Patrick                15/10/2007
     168   G & J                             16/10/2007
     169   Emily & Sean                      17/10/2007
     170   Hazem & Nawal                     17/10/2007
     171   karya & kim                       18/10/2007
     172   Marj & Josh                       18/10/2007
     173   Joanna & Brandon                  18/10/2007
     174   Jia Ying & Don                    19/10/2007
     175   Hiromi & Helen                    19/10/2007
     176   OL & VK                           19/10/2007
     177   Alastair & Jasmine                19/10/2007
     178   Jana & Gil                        19/10/2007
     179   ShaSha & Chris                    19/10/2007
     180   Ulyana & John                     19/10/2007
     181   Shanthi & Krish                   22/10/2007
     182   Andres & Diana                    22/10/2007
     183   Nhu Anh & Thai                    23/10/2007
     184   Robby & Jillymae                  23/10/2007
     185   J & M                             24/10/2007
     186   Olga & Chris                      24/10/2007
     187   Gregory & Jacquelyn               25/10/2007
     188   Tracy & Steve                     25/10/2007
     189   Amy & Andrew                      26/10/2007
     190   Roulio & Maria                    26/10/2007
     191   melina & bryan                    26/10/2007
     192   Ruki & Jamie                      26/10/2007
     193   Zhang & Ricky                     26/10/2007
     194   Chloe & Gabriel                   27/10/2007
     195   Bualai & Steve                    27/10/2007
     196   S & M                             29/10/2007
     197   Marian & Rebecca                  29/10/2007
     198   Nik & Kate                        30/10/2007
     199   Joany & Rachel                    30/10/2007
     200   j & J                             30/10/2007
     201   Karin & Brian                     31/10/2007
     202   linda & chad                      31/10/2007
     203   Sheridan & Annabelle              31/10/2007
     204   Watcharee & Thomas                31/10/2007
     205   Matias & Maureen                   1/11/2007
     206   Lizel & Larry                      1/11/2007
     207   Faustine & Jason                   1/11/2007
     208   Diana & Nathan                     2/11/2007
     209   Barry & Debbie                     2/11/2007
     210   Naveen & Melody                    2/11/2007
     211   K & P                              2/11/2007
     212   seiko & eleazar                    2/11/2007
     213   Joy & Donny                        5/11/2007
     214   Anna & Mike                        5/11/2007
     215   Emily & John                       5/11/2007
     216   Asiya & Imran                      5/11/2007
     217   Kimberly & Eric                    6/11/2007
     218   S & S                              6/11/2007
     219   Sinoun & Scott                     6/11/2007
     220   Natalia & Kyle                     6/11/2007
     221   Fabian & Speirs                    6/11/2007
     222   Ying & Dave                        6/11/2007
     223   salah & regina                     7/11/2007
     224   Kathy & Brian                      7/11/2007
     225   Agustina & Tyler                   8/11/2007
     226   Andy & Caroline                    8/11/2007
     227   Jianli & Jeff                      8/11/2007
     228   Svetlana & Aaron                   9/11/2007
     229   Jay & Maria                        9/11/2007
     230   S & J                              9/11/2007
     231   babydoll & lovestrong              9/11/2007
     232   Pai & Devan                        9/11/2007
     233   Rosalinda & Randy                  9/11/2007
     234   Genet & meseret                   11/11/2007
     235   Hana & mike                       11/11/2007
     236   Tero & Karel                      13/11/2007
     237   Joy & Jeff                        13/11/2007
     238   Cristy & Clint                    14/11/2007
     239   Ghe & Joe                         16/11/2007
     240   Natcha & Austin                   19/11/2007
     241   Christine & Steve                 19/11/2007
     242   WiFi & Pipe                       19/11/2007
     243   Ces & JoDeana                     19/11/2007
     244   Kun & Zack                        20/11/2007
     245   Gbenga & Jennifer                 21/11/2007
     246   Samad & Autumn                    21/11/2007
     247   Crisoforo & Maria                 22/11/2007
     248   Yulan & Steven                    23/11/2007
     249   Tom & Stephanie                   23/11/2007
     250   Oleksandra & Mark                 26/11/2007
     251   Elvira & Brian                    26/11/2007
     252   Ninfa & Rodge                     28/11/2007
     253   Mely & Mike                       28/11/2007
     254   K & D                             29/11/2007
     255   Florilda & Dean                   29/11/2007
     256   Irina & Rod                        4/12/2007
     257   Joseph & Sylvia                    4/12/2007
     258   Diazel & Mike                      4/12/2007
     259   U & M                              5/12/2007
     260   Onur & Julia                       6/12/2007
     261   Stuart & Shannon                   6/12/2007
     262   Hui & Alan                         6/12/2007
     263   N/A & N/A                          6/12/2007
     264   Mayra & Jaime                      6/12/2007
     265   James & Jen                        7/12/2007
     266   Hans & Marilyn                     7/12/2007
     267   Adrienn & David                   11/12/2007
     268   Goosy & Donald Itek               11/12/2007
     269   Norma & Scott                     12/12/2007
     270   Jin & Kevin                       13/12/2007
     271   Oksana & Gary                     17/12/2007
     272   Daa & Jason                       17/12/2007
     273   Julia & David                     17/12/2007
     274   Dianne & Ryan                     18/12/2007
     275   Thuy & Ich                        18/12/2007
     276   mary ann & jared                  19/12/2007
     277   Giovanni & La                     19/12/2007
     278   Beth & Rick                       22/12/2007
     279   Bhing & Jeff                      24/12/2007
     280   Kyoung & Kevin                    26/12/2007
     281   Elias & Traci                     27/12/2007
     282   German & Jen                      27/12/2007
     283   Tatyana & Paul                    29/12/2007
     284   Maribel & Michael                 31/12/2007
     285   Hannah & Mark                      2/01/2008
     286   Aliona & Bryant                    3/01/2008
     287   Julia & Timothy                    3/01/2008
     288   relyn & patrick                    4/01/2008
     289   Sylvester & Toni                   4/01/2008
     290   Ten & DJ                           7/01/2008
     291   Zrinka & Eric                      8/01/2008
     292   Irina & Steve                      8/01/2008
     293   Cecile & Bryan                     8/01/2008
     294   Nueng & Wayne                      9/01/2008
     295   Yuliya & Brian                    11/01/2008
     296   Kiki & Frank                      11/01/2008
     297   WW & MM                           14/01/2008
     298   Rachel & Alex                     17/01/2008
     299   Erica & Scott                     19/01/2008



Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 05:21 AM
Well the good thing is the list of people waiting hasn't got *much* longer - we're still under 300 which can't be too bad - not long ago it was about 350 or something so smile.gif

Moxies - you are a very sensible man - it really does suck waiting I know - I've been there as have my fellow July-ers. Many are *still* waiting - I was getting frustrated at five months but it was only a blip. Now I wish someone else had got their NOA2 in my place sad.gif

The way I see it is we can't change anything so we just have to get on with things. I went out for lunch with one of my best friends yesterday and she asked me if we would have done anything differently (we planned our wedding a little pre-emptively and now I am not going to move until the end of June) and I said no. I feel that the waiting has made me stronger as a person and has made our relationship stronger. We've been through the highs and lows and I have developed so much. When we were seeing people who had only waited a month get approved (remember those freak approvals last year?!) I felt sorry for them. They didn't know what was coming next, they hadn't had time to really let the process sink in and... it sounds weird I know... but they didn't have time to really appreciate what this whole process is about. In some perverse way I am glad I have had to wait because it has made me appreciate the fact I am going to be allowed to stay with my man forever when I get there smile.gif
StillThePrettiest
Jan 20 2008, 05:38 AM
more very sane and wise words yes.gif

the wait I'm fine with... the piles and heaps of forms and processes and fees and so on I could do without wink.gif

but on the whole, I agree with you... I can't IMAGINE taking David for granted, when we're finally together smile.gif
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 05:48 AM
Haha - I know it will happen though wink.gif But I am glad we have had to wait - it's kinda make-or-break for the relationship and we seem to be doing ok smile.gif I know everyone is different but I wonder how many people who only had a short wait had successful relationships? Or if people who waited longer didn't?

Hmmm I want to investimagate!!
snowfrostedlashes
Jan 20 2008, 05:50 AM
Going through the stress of this process probably is a really good test of a relationship - hopefully it'll help prepare us for all the other things that life can throw at us!
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 05:53 AM
I know of at least one person who didn't make it unsure.gif
StillThePrettiest
Jan 20 2008, 05:54 AM
reading the 'effects of major changes...' threads is pretty sobering sometimes sad.gif
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 05:56 AM
Yeah - I do read that from time to time - kinda makes you put things into perspective sad.gif
Natashabrenda
Jan 20 2008, 10:53 AM
STP thanks for the new list!
I also believe that having to wait to actually be together is a tset for a relationship and I also have to agree that it has made the relationship between James and me a lot stronger.
But in our case,and that's why I'm so drained right now-
he left Germany August 6th,2005 and we couldn't file for the K1 until October 2007 because his ex for some unknown reason didn't want the divorce until SHE finally had a good reason for it .And they haven't seen each other since Dec 2001.....
I don't have family nor friends left here in Germany and this recent slow down at CSC is just very frsutrating at the moment.
I wouldn't be AS frsutrated if things were moving (like 20+ approvals a week) but since it went down to 6 a week it gets to me.
I AM glad we have been through all of this because it did make us stronger and shows just how much we both care and love each other,but like I said ,right now I'm just exhausted and James isn't feeling any better sitting at our 1700 sqf house all by himself.........Thank God during the week he hardly has ANY time to think or even miss me since he works 60 hours a week but it gets to him right now and hearing him this sad makes me sad.......
Nat
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 10:56 AM
I figure if your relationship is strong enough you can get through anything - ok this is all taking time but at the end of the day the end result is that we will be with our OHs no matter what, no matter how long it takes if we want it enough smile.gif
bakofoil
Jan 20 2008, 11:55 AM
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Jan 20 2008, 10:54 AM) *
reading the 'effects of major changes...' threads is pretty sobering sometimes sad.gif


Yup very sobering. Reading about couples in extended processing for whatever reason puts things in perspective for me too.
bakofoil
Jan 20 2008, 12:16 PM
QUOTE(Natashabrenda @ Jan 20 2008, 03:53 PM) *
STP thanks for the new list!
I also believe that having to wait to actually be together is a tset for a relationship and I also have to agree that it has made the relationship between James and me a lot stronger.
But in our case,and that's why I'm so drained right now-
he left Germany August 6th,2005 and we couldn't file for the K1 until October 2007 because his ex for some unknown reason didn't want the divorce until SHE finally had a good reason for it .And they haven't seen each other since Dec 2001.....
I don't have family nor friends left here in Germany and this recent slow down at CSC is just very frsutrating at the moment.
I wouldn't be AS frsutrated if things were moving (like 20+ approvals a week) but since it went down to 6 a week it gets to me.
I AM glad we have been through all of this because it did make us stronger and shows just how much we both care and love each other,but like I said ,right now I'm just exhausted and James isn't feeling any better sitting at our 1700 sqf house all by himself.........Thank God during the week he hardly has ANY time to think or even miss me since he works 60 hours a week but it gets to him right now and hearing him this sad makes me sad.......
Nat


I hear you.
I'm trying so hard to keep perspective on this. Six months is not a long time but I don't know right now whether my NOA2 is going to happen tomorrow or next month or in three months time.
I moved back in with my Mum back in July to make preparations and save for the move abroad. I left my two cats behind - they live with a very good friend of mine now and have a wonderful life. One of them is really old and I didn't want to uproot him to endure the heat in California or separate the two of them. I miss them though.
I also left friends, my home, most of my belongings and a permanent job. Now I'm on a temporary contract which ends at Easter and will have to find something else if this goes on much longer - which is just a hassle rather than some kind of tragedy. But after beginning preparations for this back in July I am ready and waiting for my life in the US to begin. Just about everything is in place but. as you say, the slowdown at CSC is making everything feel so uncertain.
On a positive note, I am saving money and enjoying my job. Jesse and I both try to keep busy so that it doesn't get to us too much and tell each other often that we will be together soon.
Whenever I post something like this I try to remind myself that if I whine too much about having to wait I run the risk of having egg on my face if I end up shouting about our NOA2 arriving the following day. I keep hoping. I know all our NOA2s will come soon. smile.gif
StillThePrettiest
Jan 20 2008, 12:39 PM
oh, babblesgirl, I so understand... I keep reminding myself - and others, when I'm bemoaning my situation - that this is NOT really that bad, in the global scheme of things; I'm not in a refugee camp, I have the use of my limbs, I know where tomorrow's meals are coming from, I don't live under a dictatorship... and I have someone who loves me, and I'm planning a new life with him, and it's closer than it's ever been smile.gif

but at the same time all the little things just stack up and stack up until they're almost overwhelming... I'm in a share house right now, which I would NOT make permanent if I were staying in the UK, but it's a money-saving measure too, and 'temporary', so most of my stuff is in boxes, and I exist in the tiniest room imaginable, and live with flatmates who are very dear to me but who nevertheless generally do NOT do their share of the work... my jobs are in limbo; I can't give notice, but they know I'm leaving, which is an odd place to be... members of my family are ill, but I can't make plans to go back to Aus yet, until all this stuff is worked out... and of course there's just the waiting and the limbo and the missing my SO, which we've all remarked on so often... it feels never-ending, and when it affects EVERY aspect of our lives it can easily seem too much

but we WILL get through... and it will be soon... and then we'll barely think of it again smile.gif
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 12:42 PM
I don't know about barely think about it - I think I will think about it a lot and be amazed at how far we have come... stories to tell the grandkids and all laughing.gif
StillThePrettiest
Jan 20 2008, 12:44 PM
laughing.gif good point laughing.gif

well, barely think about it in a BAD way; it won't make us depressed the way it does now wink.gif
bakofoil
Jan 20 2008, 12:51 PM
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Jan 20 2008, 05:39 PM) *
oh, babblesgirl, I so understand... I keep reminding myself - and others, when I'm bemoaning my situation - that this is NOT really that bad, in the global scheme of things; I'm not in a refugee camp, I have the use of my limbs, I know where tomorrow's meals are coming from, I don't live under a dictatorship... and I have someone who loves me, and I'm planning a new life with him, and it's closer than it's ever been smile.gif

but at the same time all the little things just stack up and stack up until they're almost overwhelming... I'm in a share house right now, which I would NOT make permanent if I were staying in the UK, but it's a money-saving measure too, and 'temporary', so most of my stuff is in boxes, and I exist in the tiniest room imaginable, and live with flatmates who are very dear to me but who nevertheless generally do NOT do their share of the work... my jobs are in limbo; I can't give notice, but they know I'm leaving, which is an odd place to be... members of my family are ill, but I can't make plans to go back to Aus yet, until all this stuff is worked out... and of course there's just the waiting and the limbo and the missing my SO, which we've all remarked on so often... it feels never-ending, and when it affects EVERY aspect of our lives it can easily seem too much

but we WILL get through... and it will be soon... and then we'll barely think of it again smile.gif


luv.gif You totally understand. Couldn't have put it better myself. Things could be a whole lot worse but yeah the small things do stack up periodically. Although family being ill is a tremendous worry.

On a side note: I know that you, like me, haven't made any firm wedding plans. Are you hoping still to do it fairly quickly so you can get AOS underway? Maybe you could get an expedited AP so you can visit your family as soon as poss.
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 12:51 PM
Defo - in fact I look back now and laugh at some parts - I mean how naive we were in the beginning, booking wedding, not making a copy of the packet etc... I feel very sage and wise while giving advice to newbies!! laughing.gif

Of course I will be able to laugh more once I get into the country next month... it's the only thing I am worried about right now tongue.gif
StillThePrettiest
Jan 20 2008, 01:07 PM
QUOTE(babblesgirl @ Jan 20 2008, 05:51 PM) *
On a side note: I know that you, like me, haven't made any firm wedding plans. Are you hoping still to do it fairly quickly so you can get AOS underway? Maybe you could get an expedited AP so you can visit your family as soon as poss.

well, we'd already planned to go back to Aus in between - I'll get the visa, and then approximately a month later will fly to Australia (after packing up everything here and shipping everything I want to the US), and stay for about a month; David will come for the latter two weeks of that month, FINALLY meet my family (I'm SO SO SO impatient for that!!), and I'll tidy up loose ends there, and then we'll fly back to the US together... still don't quite know the timeframe from there, but maybe three weeks, maybe a month after our arrival we'll get married smile.gif
my mum and dad will come across for it, and his are already in Texas, and so's his son, so there's the entire wedding party laughing.gif

my mum's planning a big party for while we're there in Sydney... difficult to make any real plans because of course, we still don't have a date, but we've been talking about it... just a nice big party, nothing formal, but just everyone together smile.gif

I'm looking forward to showing David around Sydney, too... he always wanted to go to Aus, but never dreamed it would be under these circumstances laughing.gif
bakofoil
Jan 20 2008, 01:15 PM
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Jan 20 2008, 06:07 PM) *
QUOTE(babblesgirl @ Jan 20 2008, 05:51 PM) *
On a side note: I know that you, like me, haven't made any firm wedding plans. Are you hoping still to do it fairly quickly so you can get AOS underway? Maybe you could get an expedited AP so you can visit your family as soon as poss.

well, we'd already planned to go back to Aus in between - I'll get the visa, and then approximately a month later will fly to Australia (after packing up everything here and shipping everything I want to the US), and stay for about a month; David will come for the latter two weeks of that month, FINALLY meet my family (I'm SO SO SO impatient for that!!), and I'll tidy up loose ends there, and then we'll fly back to the US together... still don't quite know the timeframe from there, but maybe three weeks, maybe a month after our arrival we'll get married smile.gif
my mum and dad will come across for it, and his are already in Texas, and so's his son, so there's the entire wedding party laughing.gif

my mum's planning a big party for while we're there in Sydney... difficult to make any real plans because of course, we still don't have a date, but we've been talking about it... just a nice big party, nothing formal, but just everyone together smile.gif

I'm looking forward to showing David around Sydney, too... he always wanted to go to Aus, but never dreamed it would be under these circumstances laughing.gif


Fair enough, shouldn't be any problems if you're not moving out to the US before you visit Aus. Sounds like a good plan. Did you manage to get your fingerprinting done?
mox
Jan 20 2008, 01:17 PM
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Jan 20 2008, 02:07 AM) *
in other news, here are some lists:

Thanks StP! It's disheartening to see such little movement, but at least there is movement. Let's hope Tuesday marks the day when some big chunks get taken out of this list!
StillThePrettiest
Jan 20 2008, 01:25 PM
there was actually a little more movement than I'd thought... there were a few updated timelines for earlier in the month, that I hadn't known about smile.gif
but yes, I HOPE you're right smile.gif


no fingerprints yet, BG... my appointment is next Saturday (it was the first available slot wacko.gif ), and I'll have the form, cheque and envelope ready to go so I can just walk out of New Scotland Yard and post it smile.gif

I just love that it's going to take at least three more weeks, and cost me more than £100 more, and when I get it it will say the same damn thing as the last one mad.gif laughing.gif
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 01:37 PM
Awww - will be great for him to meet your family!!!:D Nice to fly back together too - Jeremy is coming out here for an evening reception then we will be flying back together - I am so glad because while I am going to be excited I am also going to be very emotional smile.gif

Thing is I have to try and talk him into a 5th July wedding in Vegas... but I think he prolly won't be able to get the time off work... :/
mox
Jan 20 2008, 01:39 PM
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Jan 20 2008, 10:25 AM) *
there was actually a little more movement than I'd thought... there were a few updated timelines for earlier in the month, that I hadn't known about smile.gif
but yes, I HOPE you're right smile.gif

It's moved exactly the amount I thought, because I'm an obsessive number-watcher. biggrin.gif
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 01:44 PM
Oh dear... what do you do for work again moxie?! I want your job - you get paid to watch numbers on VJ!! laughing.gif
Melrose Plant
Jan 20 2008, 01:54 PM
This unexpected and unprecedented delay has caused strain on our relationship. It seems I can't cheer her up all the way, no matter how hard I try. On the other hand, she seems resigned to waiting, and has made her peace with that. I feel very lucky, as other couples I know have fought about this pretty hard, and some of them have had relatively fast cases at the VSC! One thing I do know, once we get that NOA2, all of those feelings change instantly. I have seen it in other couples.

The thing about this delay I never thought of before is that it's going to cost us thousands of dollars. Originally, we'd hoped for a December or January interview, and then we revised that to February or March. Any of those dates would have been fine. That's the slow season for construction (my job). Now it looks like May or June might be closer to the mark. That is prime time to be working for me. I'll probably have to quit a job to be able to go to VN at that time to bring her to the U.S. Not good for the pocketbook. Furthermore, Mai Anh has made decisions with her job based on reasonable expectations which will cost her thousands of dollars. That's a little more complicated than my job. I still don't fully understand how business works in VN.

How are we supposed to plan our lives when things are so unpredictable? Maybe I should send USCIS a bill for our lost income. Haha. I know that would be an exercise in futility, but it's a delicious thought!
StillThePrettiest
Jan 20 2008, 02:05 PM
oh, that's such a shame sad.gif

is there any wiggle room? I know you'd like to go to get her, but can she come on her own? that could save you time and money... and if she spoke to her employers, could she maybe change her leaving dates? (I don't know how business works there either, but it can't hurt to ask, surely? wink.gif )
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 02:10 PM
Yeah - I am lucky that Jeremy will be coming over and flying back with me... He had suggested maybe he didn't come over to save money... That would have been fine but I had to explain our UK reception would be a bit crappy without the groom!! laughing.gif
mox
Jan 20 2008, 02:33 PM
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Jan 20 2008, 10:44 AM) *
Oh dear... what do you do for work again moxie?! I want your job - you get paid to watch numbers on VJ!! laughing.gif

I'm whatchacall a systems engineer. Fancy way of saying I make lots of really big computers crunch lots of numbers. smile.gif I don't get paid to watch numbers on VJ, although I put enough time into it that I ought to, dangit!

QUOTE(Melrose Plant @ Jan 20 2008, 10:54 AM) *
How are we supposed to plan our lives when things are so unpredictable? Maybe I should send USCIS a bill for our lost income. Haha. I know that would be an exercise in futility, but it's a delicious thought!

It's tough for sure. From the outset Nadya and I decided not to even attempt to make plans for anything. As much as I'd love to go to Moscow for the interview with her, we've decided to save the money and vacation time for later. We'll have a civil wedding with just enough people for witnesses and maybe a few more, and then a reception that will probably consist of just a nice dinner and drinks. Then at some later undesignated time we'll go back to her village and have a wedding there. But we're not setting any time-tables. I can't even imagine what additional pressures that would create.

I know I've said this on at least 3 other posts, but I think it will help relieve some of the stress you and others are feeling: CSC are not outside their 6 month goal for adjudication yet. As for myself, I got really excited when it seemed I was on track for a 4 month approval, but we need to consider anything less than 6 months as gravy. It makes me nervous to see things ground to a halt, but it's got to pick up any time now. In fact there's a very real possibility that if processing picks up soon, that most of us will make it well under the 6 month goal.
Jeraly
Jan 20 2008, 02:44 PM
Yeah I must say punching a timeclock hasn't been fun - part of me can't wait until it is all over so I can go back to waiting with no deadline like most normal people laughing.gif
bakofoil
Jan 20 2008, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(mox @ Jan 20 2008, 07:33 PM) *
I know I've said this on at least 3 other posts, but I think it will help relieve some of the stress you and others are feeling: CSC are not outside their 6 month goal for adjudication yet. As for myself, I got really excited when it seemed I was on track for a 4 month approval, but we need to consider anything less than 6 months as gravy. It makes me nervous to see things ground to a halt, but it's got to pick up any time now. In fact there's a very real possibility that if processing picks up soon, that most of us will make it well under the 6 month goal.


Not far off it though mox. 3/4 days in my case and I have a late July NOA1. There's plenty with earlier filing dates who (I think) haven't heard anything yet. But, yes I take your overall point and I've said it myself many many times over recent days. CSC are working within six months right now.
Melrose Plant
Jan 20 2008, 03:59 PM
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Jan 20 2008, 01:05 PM) *
oh, that's such a shame sad.gif

is there any wiggle room? I know you'd like to go to get her, but can she come on her own? that could save you time and money... and if she spoke to her employers, could she maybe change her leaving dates? (I don't know how business works there either, but it can't hurt to ask, surely? wink.gif )


Hehe, I don't want to say too much on a public forum, but let me explain this as best I can. You've got to understand that in VN, a good deal of the capitalist economy is, well, not on the books.

My fiancee is an advertising exec. She sells and services mainly billboard advertising. This job involves a somewhat broader range of responsibilities than a similar position would in the U.S. or Western Europe. For example, she has to actually hire and supervise the actual carpenters who build the sign itself. Can you imagine? Anyway, the jist of it is, somehow, when she gets a contract with a client, she actually invests her own personal money in that contract. That's a little weird to us, but that's how business is done over there. The catch is that she needs to be around at the end of the contract to collect her money. Otherwise, that money goes to giam doc ngu (stupid director). Yes, there's a little secrecy involved here. It's a growing economy under a communist regime.

By looking at the past, she assumed that this whole process would take 5 or 6 months from start to finish. So naturally, she didn't invest a lot of money in pursuing these contracts in the past few months, figuring that she wouldn't be around to collect. In other words, she sent clients away. Now, we see that we figured wrong, and so there's the lost money, and there's nothing to be done about that now. Oh, well.

I just feel fortunate that she does earn a good living, because most people on this forum who have Vietnamese fiancees are sending money every month to their sweeties because they are making maybe $120 per month if they're lucky, so they can't afford things like internet in their homes, or they can't afford to buy a computer.

P.S. She constantly argues with her boss, and I am pretty sure he hates her, but there is no one else in that company who can consistently bring in the contracts like she can! I wish I could tell off my boss like that!
mox
Jan 20 2008, 04:08 PM
QUOTE(babblesgirl @ Jan 20 2008, 12:33 PM) *
Not far off it though mox. 3/4 days in my case and I have a late July NOA1. There's plenty with earlier filing dates who (I think) haven't heard anything yet. But, yes I take your overall point and I've said it myself many many times over recent days. CSC are working within six months right now.

Yeah, I usually caveat this by saying "except for some July and previous filers..." In the harsh light of statistical analysis however, the number of filers who are outside the 6-month goal is very small. This is of no comfort of course if you happen to be one of those small numbers of people, but for the community at large at least we can say that it's an uncommon enough occurrence that it's unlikely to happen to most filers. And I want to be really clear that I'm not making light of anyone who has had to wait beyond the 6-month timeframe. It's easy enough for me to sit here and say "statistically speaking you are unlikely to have to wait more than 6 months," but if it happens to me I'll be just as torn up and angry about it as I'm sure you'll be if you don't see that approval soon.

This is sort of citing an overall low crimerate to someone who's just been robbed, I know. sad.gif
bakofoil
Jan 20 2008, 04:38 PM
QUOTE(mox @ Jan 20 2008, 09:08 PM) *
QUOTE(babblesgirl @ Jan 20 2008, 12:33 PM) *
Not far off it though mox. 3/4 days in my case and I have a late July NOA1. There's plenty with earlier filing dates who (I think) haven't heard anything yet. But, yes I take your overall point and I've said it myself many many times over recent days. CSC are working within six months right now.

Yeah, I usually caveat this by saying "except for some July and previous filers..." In the harsh light of statistical analysis however, the number of filers who are outside the 6-month goal is very small. This is of no comfort of course if you happen to be one of those small numbers of people, but for the community at large at least we can say that it's an uncommon enough occurrence that it's unlikely to happen to most filers. And I want to be really clear that I'm not making light of anyone who has had to wait beyond the 6-month timeframe. It's easy enough for me to sit here and say "statistically speaking you are unlikely to have to wait more than 6 months," but if it happens to me I'll be just as torn up and angry about it as I'm sure you'll be if you don't see that approval soon.

This is sort of citing an overall low crimerate to someone who's just been robbed, I know. sad.gif


I don't feel robbed - yet. You're absolutely correct and this post is very well thought out. Top marks for level-headedness and empathy good.gif I do hope things speed up for all our sakes smile.gif
Jeraly
Jan 21 2008, 03:22 AM
Yeah I am just kinda bummed that there is such a huge difference between VSC and CSC now - it wouldn't be so bad if they were moving the same pace but when you see Sept/Oct filers getting approved with VSC and CSC is still working on July...

Then when I see people complaining that they have been waiting *so* long after two months and freaking out about calling up and contacting their congressman and things like that I kinda want to tell them to get a grip - I know we all find it hard but... Maybe they just haven't had the time to let it sink in that it can be a lengthy process or maybe they are still taking it for granted that the whole process will only take six months... who knows?! I am really pleased we have had our spreadsheet for July because it let us really see when people were getting approved so ok, it was taking ages but it was taking just as long for everyone else who filed at the same time as us smile.gif

Oh and any July filers watching - make sure you let debz or myself know to update the spreadsheet if you have any details to add/edit! biggrin.gif
TBoneTX
Jan 21 2008, 03:01 PM
QUOTE(mox @ Jan 20 2008, 01:33 PM) *
It's tough for sure. From the outset Nadya and I decided not to even attempt to make plans for anything. As much as I'd love to go to Moscow for the interview with her, we've decided to save the money and vacation time for later. We'll have a civil wedding with just enough people for witnesses and maybe a few more, and then a reception that will probably consist of just a nice dinner and drinks. Then at some later undesignated time we'll go back to her village and have a wedding there. But we're not setting any time-tables. I can't even imagine what additional pressures that would create.


Mox strikes another blow for lucidity. This is what I would like to do, but I'm not sure that C. understands it; we had talked about a civil wedding here and a blowout wedding later in Ecuador, but she has also said something about her parents (who speak no English and have never left Ecuador) wanting to come here for the civil wedding. That would be at least a full day's trip or more from their hometown in the far south just to be able to catch a flight, then a day to recover upon U.S. arrival (redeye flight), a "nuthin'" ceremony in front of a judge, a small/medium-sized reception at a relative's house, then nuthin' again.

Even more: C.'s "most romantic" scenario is me flying down to take her back (away) to the U.S. Romantic, si man, but what about job & finances? Makes more sense for her to come whenever she's approved and has said her various goodbyes (all over Ecuador, si man!).

Yet more: Due to having been burned salary-wise at a previous job, she has started her own business and is traveling all over Ecuador, AND is trying to complete another course of her University correspondence study, AND is still being the "eldest sister" of the family. We haven't talked for nearly a week, we've e-mailed only a couple of times, and she completely ignored (or didn't read far enough down) my latest e-mail, in which I very excitedly told her that our papers would imminently reach the consulate. I also told her that I went into the office on Sat. night and spent 5 full hours compiling, concocting, and otherwise coagulating most of the papers & evidence that she will need... and she didn't comment on that, either.

I strongly suspect that she is working like a bastard to make some money to help with her trip and with our pending new life, but if she happens to be too busy to go for her consulate interview (or even to acknowledge that there IS one, once there is one), how will that look to the consulate? I don't know that that will happen, but it's easy to get up-wrapped in one's life when there are competing priorities. I'm also rather worried that she'll work herself into exhaustion or illness.

Ergothuswithforthly, this is some of the stuff that can happen AFTER our bastard NOA2s arrive. I present it not only to "try" to make the NOA2-waitees feel better (maybe it won't, but this K-1 process has shat on me pretty consistently from the outset), but also to hear anyone's wisdom regarding my specific challenges. Si, man?

T-B.
TBoneTX
Jan 21 2008, 03:04 PM
QUOTE(TBoneTX @ Jan 21 2008, 02:01 PM) *
QUOTE(mox @ Jan 20 2008, 01:33 PM) *
It's tough for sure. From the outset Nadya and