Anyway we can make it CRYSTAL CLEAR when a newbie joins that they CANNOT GET MARRIED before the K1 is approved and fiance is in the US? it seems lately every newbie thinks they can get married while waiting for the K1 and can still use the K1.

Not much different than those who are also very impatient and want to by pass the rules and use a non-immigrant visa to enter, get married and then adjust.

Isn't that the purpose of this site, to ask questions and find out the right way to do things?

Honestly, I'm not sure how much more we can do.

People have the onus of responsibility to understand the process that they're going through, whether it's K1, K3, etc. If they haven't even gone as far as to read the actual documentation from USCIS and understand what they're petitioning for, there's nothing that a support forum can do to make it any more clear to them.

We're here for advice and guidance - but it's really up to them to take it as they will. When it comes down to it, it's their petition and their lives - we can advise them, we have guides and flowcharts and example forms, but it's ultimately going to be up to them to learn the stuff.

Yes, AFTER you read the guides. It clearly says as much at the top of the page when posting.

Maybe a redesign of the home page to show IN BIG LETTERS briefly what the K1 is for and provide link for more in depth information. Do the same for a K3 and the CR-1/IR-1 and provide links. I dunno... that seems to be a way of helping newbies. Just a thought.

My point is, if they are seeking a K1, they already know its a FIANCE visa, we shouldnt have to answer 4-5 posts a day from newbies asking "can i get married while waiting for the k1 visa to process" im all for assisting ppl in questions and helping with solutions. But these are things ppl are asking more and more everyday.

Bostonparis
"Isn't that the purpose of this site, to ask questions and find out the right way to do things?"

YES, but it get annoying when ppl KNOW its a fiance visa, they just want someone to say its ok to marry while its processing. Obviously its not printed BIG ENOUGH in the guides. Or no one bothers to read it in the guides or the guides itsself

But Tara, you don't HAVE to answer.

Yes, I know it's annoying....but if it annoys you that bad, ignore it!

i agree, thats what i was getting at with the post

I think one of the annoying things about this are some of the ones giving not so good advice about the K1. There's a thread in the K1 forum now along this line:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79945

I dont answer, and i do ignore, but ppl put the new topic as if its something WORTH answering to, when you get in there its like " OMG AGAIN???"

Sure, like the wedding vs. marriage point, yet AGAIN.....

I made a new thread for ya...maybe E will sticky it

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=80089

That is what spawned my post on this right now
its bad enough ppl are hoping they can get married while waiting for the FIANCE visa, its worse when they are given BAD advice on it.

Capn has already said it is a slippery slope, yet every time it gets posted, he lets it slide, again....bad form, IMO.

Dev, do you ever miss a chance to criticize Ewok for something?

Do you ever miss a chance to stir the pot?

When the admin has said things in PM that he would do the next time it happened, then doesn't, yes I critcize. It's called hypocrisy.

its not ewoks fault, he cant babysit all the newbies, but in the site when they enter and everywhere else they read the guides, it should state largely the purpose for the K1

I'm not stirring the pot, just wondering why you're always fingerpointing. Kinda gets tiring to see all the time.

Like in that thread where ya thought you had E over the barrel for the thread closures, where all ya had to do was read the thread for the answer.

I'm sure E hasn't seen the thread, because if he did and there was something he didn't approve of, it'd be gone. Why not give him a little bit of benefit of the doubt is all I'm sayin....

Lisa take it to PM please we dont need or want this in here....

Kez

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I've said what I needed to say, Kez. Thx!

Someone should speak up for Ewok if he's going to publicly get the blame all the time....

I dont want ppl getting upset with eachother, i just wanted to make a point about something.

Last time I checked, he can speak for himself.

Shame you feel you have to follow members around the forum so that you can stick up for E.... maybe you could just stop....

Kez

Keep on topic now, people.

I'm sure he can, but as a member who appreciates all his hard work, I felt like speaking up for him.



Shame you feel you have to speak your mind to me...see how that works?

Let it go!

Keep this on the topic of K1 visa and noobs, or I'll have no choice but to lock it. Any other issues please take them to PM. Thanks everyone.

Thanks mags.

thanks mags

Dev. I try my best to respond to reported posts. Also, what I say in PM are just my thoughts at the moment. As far as any Terms that govern the way the site is run please see http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...&page=terms. Also per the TOS you should not go spouting PM conversations you have with the mods or admin on the forums as that is against the TOS (just being picky here since you were). If I enforced that rule then our enforcement guide publicly pinned in this forum says I should suspend you 30 days to life. Why don't I, because I am smart enough to be subjective when appropriate. The world is not black and white but a shade of gray.

I would also appreciate it that if you want to call me a hypocrite you do it via PM. I am a big boy and do not mind being called names but when you do it on the open forums time and again it becomes annoying.

I never mentioned what was said in PM, therefore not violating the TOS.

Also, you have chosen not to reply to my PMs, so what am I to do?

Um...isn't that what a K1 is?

Most of us know that a K-1 is a sort of hybrid as it is technically a non-immigrant visa for a person who has immigrant intent. The point of the post was visas such as B1/2 or VWP or the likes INSTEAD of K-1.

Dev- I am not bound to reply to everything you ask. You will just have to accept that sometimes there are going to be times where I do not feel the need to explain every little action or choice I make.

Oh. Ok. Well why would somebody want to do THAT? If you're gonna wait on a visa, might as well wait on the right one.

I don't know if I agree that K1 is 'hybrid'. Not all K1 visa holders adjust status.

Capn - I'm not asking for a reply to every PM, GEEZ. But when you ask me questions, I reply, also asking questions & then you don't feel the need to respond to mine? How is that fair?

People who entry on anything other than a K1 and then marry and do AOS are not by passing any rules.... they are within the rules in certain circumstances....

Kez

I should also note that you send me five times more PM's than anyone else so to be truthful I can not reply to everything you send me nor in general everything that everyone sends me. Be assured I do read every PM or email I get though. I reply back when needed and appropriate.

People start threads about it all the time. A tourist visa is in many cases a lot simpler to acquire than a k-1 and you do not have the USCIS to deal with....


Also, If it is not a hybrid (maybe dual intent might be a better descriptor0 then why is the visa holder allowed to have immigrant intent? Why is it processed by the immigrant visa unit of the consulate?

I know very well where I stand. I have not sent you more than 10 PMs in the last month, please keep the facts straight.

I agree...it takes too much energy to even get annoyed. Just ignore the post if you have nothing to ad. It's easy for people to miss things on the guide. Or maybe they don't even know what the guides are.

If I think back over the last few years on VJ I think I have answered some questions on a daily basis.... if it bothers you then dont do it.... there are many many people who just need to here from someone else that what they are thinking is the right thing.... that what being supportive is all about... help them to think thing through and come to the right answer for them and if needed spell it out for them....

Kez

I dunno. All I know is there is no 'requirement' for the visa holder to live in the US or adjust their status.

Anyhow we are both off topic. Please PM me if you want to chat on this more. In the future if you think I am a hypocrite and would like to call me one though please just PM me and call me it. I prefer if you call me names directly to me via PM than in random topics on the forums. I can take criticism (I'm a big boy) but just please pay me the respect and professional courtesy to do so directly.

Why is there always fighting here?

That's a good idea, or the make the pinned topics bigger at the top, in bolded letters and a larger font.

I really go back and forth between knowing that people might not know anything about the process and will have a lot of questions and to be patient, to getting annoyed that they ask the same questions while there is one just like it posted the same day in plain view.

I didn't have VJ when I sent my I-129F and I survived very well (I hadn't found VJ at that point, I just used random internet resources and USCIS.gov). And people have all these resources available to themselves here at VJ and still have millions of questions. But then I remind myself to not get annoyed about it. Though I am not very helpful either, I haven't helped someone in those forums in a very long time. I used to though, a couple years ago. Then I moved on to the AOS forum. Now I am not very helpful.

I think the thing to remember here is that there will always be people who ask the same questions over and over. The AOS forum has similar problems with certain things aswell.

I think that having a pinned topic can be a good idea, however, if people don't read the guides they are just as unlikely to read a pinned topic.

The other thing to remember is that some of us are "naturals" at filing for things and find form filling in relatively easy. Other people find it hard and no matter how many times you can tell someone something in a guide they will STILL prefer to have reassurance in a topic of their own. Confidence isn't something that comes easily to everyone and in the visa process we need all the support we can get!

I never said there was a requirement..... Nobody is required to live in the US or adjust status if they don't want to and that goes for all



In some instances they are and in some instances they are not... It is not the exceptions perhaps such as yourself, that I was referring to.

sigh, read my last posts, and the guides are right there on EVERY page you look at on this site.