I was typing this while the topic was locked:

Everyone who's angry at Muy Solo-keep in mind that if her husband were to return illegally, while they wouldn't be dealing with the separation, their life will never be a bed of roses. Life with an illegal is tough at best and enough to drive you insane at other times. If she makes that bed, she'll have to sleep in it and I wouldn't be the slightest bit jealous. I can't tell you how tempting it was a few weeks ago when Javier told me some people were coming up-all I wanted to say was, come with them! But I didn't because I know that longsuffering is the key to our future TRUE happiness and security. It takes a mature attitude to realize that. I hope Muy Solo will reconsider.

I agree...but it just makes me angry that she would be so blatant. I can't imagine what it must be like for some of you...sheesh, I'm having a hard time waiting for a friggin' interview at the moment. If she chooses such a life, then she deserves all that she gets. Sorry...I'm off and running again. I just hope she thinks this through. We all want to be with our beloveds....

for someone to go "ah screw it we'll do it illegally" is degrading to those of us who are doing it legally. They are the reason why this f'ing process takes so freaking long. Just deciding to immigrate here without a visa is illegal, which makes them criminals. Who knows how criminal minds work. Never thinking of what problems could lie ahead.

I doubt she knew when she posted all that, that you never know who could possibly be reading this. Certainly never good to air illegal intentions in public, period.

I don't want to get into it, but they're really not the reason the process takes so long. By not getting a visa, they're actually freeing up a place in line. I think we should all remember who really makes this process long-the terrorists and those who commit visa fraud. Not the ones who just hop over. And although I agree with some of what you said, that statement about the criminal mind was a bit hurtful. I certainly don't regard my fiance as a criminal, because he's not. He simply broke the law once, which I do every single day by speeding, etc.

point taken. my apologies.

I really appreciate that. More than you know!!

I think if you are planning someting illegal then you must have a crimnal mind. you are in your right mine when you are organizing "THE PLAN" if you do something by accident- its an accident. example forgettging to pay for an item out the store. is not a crime but, stealing is. its all apples and oranges really.

You're probably right, Shon. I remember planning with a friend of mine in college to steal the pink flamingoes out of someone's yard in the middle of the night. I never imagined I had a criminal mind though-maybe a little crazy, but certainly not criminal!!

I too drive fast. it's illegal. never been stopped for speeding though. police always see me speeding but i'm not going fast enough for them to bother. am i therefore a criminal for doing something illegal or not a criminal because they don't want to bother with 10 KM/H over the speed limit?

Then it would be the determining factor of whether or not you are caught that makes you a criminal. I think the difference between a criminal and doing something illegal is a matter of intent, also how you are afterwards and if you do it again...

Well I don't intend on driving dangerously or causing harm to anyone or their property.

Crimes happen with the intention of NOT getting caught! you know full well what you did was wrong.
you did not get caught- had you gotton caught you would have had to account for your actions. Just like when you speed, your getting away with it- but, one day you will have to account for your actions.
" oh I did not know " dont always work.


btw, if you are 7 miles over the speed limit they will write you a ticket if you get caught.

Bragging about doing something illegal and saying it with an in your face attitude is one thing. Secondly, no remorse and talking about the government in that she goes on to say she does not respect it? Melissa you know better than that. Your trying to go with a waiver and you are seeing Javier. Shona is here doing a waiver too. MUY SOLO thinks she is better than anyone else is wrong!!!!!!!!!!!

I am not happy not seeing my husband since January 2005. I am doing it right and she should do it or keep her illegal ways to herself. It is crap like this that makes it harder. Yes, my husband comes from a country that has to be stricter and more checks. But just because he comes from Pakistan that does not mean he has done something illegal or been involved in terrorist activities.

This site is for us to get the correct information and do our processing thru the proper channels. And like Joel said it is one thing to speed or do something in criminal mind then what more would they do? Sorry but first husband was in law enforcement and if you have no respect for the law you never will.

Mary

Well, speeding's a bad example anyway. I don't think anyone has bad intentions while driving. What I meant was more like, criminals do things for bad reasons. Like I steal because I can or I vandalize someone's home because I hate them, etc.

you dont do those things because, you reconize those things are wrong. Crimnals dont always reconize something is wrong. Someone I apprehended -told me they steal because they wanted it and they felt like the world owes them a few favors.

Mary, I am agreeing completely with you. I know that hearing things like this might make you feel bad on a personal level, but when your husband comes here legally and you begin to enjoy your life together, you can come on here one day and see Muy Solo's hubby was deported, and she's all by her lonesome again. The knowledge of that should give you the peace of mind to know her decisions have no effect on you. Your husband will come here and you'll live happily ever after. Hers will come back and they'll sleep with one eye open for the rest of their lives. I'm glad your husband has never done anything illegal. God willing, that will help him get through the AR much faster. Javier has and we're paying for it. We're not even at the Waiver step. But he's not a criminal. He's a hard working man with a wonderful spirit and I love him to death.

I agree. I totally support every thing you said. We all hate this hellish process. but, some how we find a way to suck it up and deal with it.

Just don't let me get my hands on someone who is here illegally. Although Javier has come illegally, he is now doing it the proper way and that makes a huge difference. Makes him ok by me

no doubt Muy Solo will be crying the " hubby got deported " blues. the diffrence between your Javier and Henry is one learned their lesson the other didnt. One cares about who he hurts the other gives no reguard to the love of their life feelings. everyone deservs a second chance. but, this other fellow is setting himself for no chances at all.

Speaking of which I just realized....yesterday marks 3 years from the day he was arrested. I'll never forget that day as long as I live. It was our 6 month anniversary. Every year on that day I sort of lose it...I actually didn't remember yesterday about it. Javier just reminded me on the phone.

Melissa I am not going to feel sorry for someone that cannot condone to the laws of the US. She is making her bed to lie in it. It is one thing to do it once; but to brag about you will do it forever it that is what it takes? My 13 yr old is reading these posts with me today. He is outraged that we are doing this the proper way and he even said MUY SOLO has no remorse. She needs to do it legal or go to him. Sorry but that is how it should be. I usually sit back and do not get into the tiffs on here. But I am not a happy camper that someone can post this and think it is okay? If a 13 year old can see the difference in right and wrong tells me that others should too. She IS MAKING her bed. No one is forcing her to do this crap.

Mary you have a very intelligent son. Good on him!

Joel thank you.

And Melissa sorry you have to deal with the deportation anniversary but you are making the right choices now to move forward and not have to worry and look over your shoulder all the time.

I agree.
I dont support anyone breaking the law. Laws are to protect us.

Mary, this is the only thing in my life that has the power to break my heart with its memory alone.

missliss.
I know you have peace in knowing you are doing the right thing.
pretty soon this stuff will be over. it will be one big ugly nightmare.

I know and it is very hard being separated and going thru this process. I truly am sorry you have to deal with these memories and hopefully it will be a dull memory over time. Just like I know that my separation is not easy and it will be a memory one day, too. I also know being widowed that time does heal.

Just think of all the sex you'll get once this is all over

Thanks for ending the tears!!!

Yeppers, lots of laundry....

Speeding is a bad example because it is classified as a civil offense. One cannot have criminal intent when committing a civil wrong.
This is the same attitude that kept slavery, racism, and segregation legal and on the books in America.
Unlike you, I strongly agree that there are some laws that must be broken in order to have a case in controversy to challenge it's constitutionality. Otherwise the courts fail to check and balance the executive and legislative branches of our government.

Well anyway, this thread was supposed to be for Muy Solo to see and understand the potential consequences of her and her husband's actions. I hope she changes her mind, if not then all I can say is I hope she knows how to deal with disappointment and heartbreak.

Dont you dare talk to me about Slavery or Racism..you can totally kiss my behind on that!

okay, let me get this straight....he husband was previously deported and planning on coming back illegally!!!...there is a hefty fine and a jail term plus a life long ban with no waiver possible if he happens to do this and gets caught

she filed the petition less than 2 months ago!!!!

I am one of many sittting here waiting...in my own case almost 3 f**king years from filing the petition and no end in sight yet, I have been screwed over by USCIS so many times it is long past being funny
and NEVER not once would I ever consider entering the country illegally
I am sorry Muy Solo if this sounds harsh, but after less than 2 months of waiting you have not even earned the f**king right to complain

Char

hats off to you!!!!!!!!!!!!
well spoken

Char your right. He is here illegally and she is bringing him in and out. They are fussing over 2 months and she is says she disrepects and does not care to abide by the laws. Captain Ewok locked her thread earlier. Look at her post on the locked thread.

Point well taken. You are in for long struggle to get both those institutions legally re-instated in the US, albeit some might argue they still exist to one level or another.

I am sorry laws some good some bad and they are dealt with accordingly. That is why we have the checks and balances system with the government of the USA. Laws keep civil unrest and upheaval out of our daily lives. Thank God we live in a country where we can have freedoms but we must conform to laws to keep our freedoms. And we have elections to try and right the wrongs.

Perhaps not, but with the kind of resources our nation has there should be no excuse in it taking months or years to process family based immigration petitions for relatives of "US" citizens. I expect more from my government in this area.
Although I do prefer that Muy Solo make her voice heard to her political representatives rather than a public board.

dont drag Slavery or Race in this. its uncalled for Richard!

Pardon my ignorance, but who is Richard?

YOU!

Oh I agree I expected more from the US government also and it should not take the length of time it is taking....but that is no excuse for a blatent disregard for the law or to post on an immigration website after a few months of waiting. She should go take a look at my story ( one of many horror stories) http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7467

and as I previously stated I have never nor would I ever consider entering illegally.

Char

Since I have never made any analogies to myself in that name, I am curious as to the origin of your reference?

Hey I agree this process should move faster. But please tell me why your are stirring the pot? Mark your Olga has a green card and already AOS'd. She will need to lift conditions later. Read Char's story or others that are separated and doing it legally. I am not needing waiver but I am still separated and respect the laws.

yes you have Richard.




I have been seperated 1 year and 2 months
in AR/AP uhmm 10 months. but, no desire to do things in the wrong ways..

Point well taken, I should get back to my studies.

I would think those that have moved on to " green'er pastures would at least offer support of those going thought this mess. not egg those doing the wrong.