ok so we submitted the I-864 a couple of weeks ago and I was expecting the message per James shortcuts to say

-----'some documents are missing' (because the DS-230 has not been processed yet)

This morning it said 'some documents are missing' - but went on with a rather ominous tone to say that 'a letter is being sent out in x weeks etc etc'

Is this the normal message or does it mean there is a problem with the I-485 ?

I suppose I am asking, what would be the difference in the message if the I-485 had or had not been approved ?

alan

ps

i mean 864 not 485

Could not stand it any longer so called NVC - she says AOS 'looks fine'

also confirms Visa fee processed 2 days ago - so sweating Tuesday for final visa form generation !

So that message that says 'missing documents and we are sending you aletter - it sounds really quite dire but apparently that means its ok

what it would say if it wasnt ok I dont know..

So its ok for me, but just for the record and to help those who follow on , has anyone experience of what it says if the I-864 is rejected ?

It's the saaaaaaaaame message I've been getting for the past month and it's driving me crazy. The info they're missing is the DS-230 and the annoying message won't go away until they receive it. It's supposed to be changed to "the DS-230 has been generated" but as per the NVC, they no longer generate the form they just mail out the instructions with no specific mailing date and we have to wait for them. It sucks.

What ! I didnt know that !

Do you mean I can't do James' short cuts ?

I spent weeks getting my ds-230 ready and getting the cover sheet printed up in blue etc...

This is news to me !

tell me it's not so......

Tell me I can send my version of DS-230

aaarrgghhhh !

Well, I sure hope it's only me having that problem. I also spent hours generating the barcodes for the DS-230 and now it seems I can't use it. Some people have suggested I send in the DS-230 packet to the NVC with a ramdom date from last week, but I always think "what if they said they had mailed it in and they haven't?", you know? They couldn't confirm if they had o not because they don't have a specific date and that's what I'm stuck on.

Let's really hope you don't have that issue because you've waited long enough.

Diana

hum - well a truly random date isn't what you mean I am sure as it's always a Monday date...
So if you call em every Tuesday morning and on one of those Tuesdays they say they have now mailed it out, then you can be sure it was the day before's date that needs to go on your documents..

Did you call every Tuesday and which was the first one where they said it was on its way coz they day before is your date...

alan

Well see, the first time I got the message was on 06/28 which was a Thursday and the letter they sent out was regarding the IV Bill payment, I got the letter on 07/05. The automated message I get now is still the same and I still don't have a specific date of when they mailed the DS-230 instructions, IF they ever did.

ok I am getting that you got the message about 'incomplete documentation ' on 06/28 ? if so then that is just to do with the AOS forms so we can forget about that...

then you got the iv bill 07/05 and sent that back (straight away ? ) with a check

ok next step is to call them and ask em what date they 'processed' the check (about 4 days after they receive it )

and then here is the killer question - ask em if the ds-230 pack has been sent out - if it has then you are ok to send the DS-230 in...

I am hoping the ds-230 pack is 'sent out' or 'generated' about a week after the check has been processed... so if you have the date your check was processed then you can start to make a good guess as to when the ds-230 pack was done..

if you sent your check from the US on 07/05 then they would probably receive it about the 10th ? and process it about the 13th or 16th monday ? ask em
if so then the ds-230 would be dated the following Monday - the 23rd

if , however, they told you a week ago that it was 'on it's way' to you then the 16th might be the date.

all speculation - first job is to get the date they processed your 380 dollar check - that is a good starting point- and to ask em to confirm it has been sent - the date doesnt really matter too much cos you can work back to it then- and it is a monday

alan

ps - I don't mean to imply that the ds230 pack is generated or sent out the Monday following the day the check is processed as it can be delayed - but if they have already told you that it has been sent out then you can start to figure out the best date to put on it...

It all depends what they are actually saying to you...

If you reckon the ds230 was sent out a couple of weeks ago then perhaps there is no point doing the short cuts as it may be with you very soon depending on where it is beng sent to...

Alan,
This gets more complicated because I received and sent the IV bill on 06/22/07. I got the message on 06/28/07, got the letter regarding the payment on 07/05/07. So I still can't make out the DS-230 date.

The people at the NVC did say that it was "supposed to" have been mailed out last week. So since so much time has passed already, I'm just gonna wait for it.

But here is my question, if they said that it was suppoed to have been mailed out last week, what date would you put on the DS-230 coversheet? They wouldn't give me any dates.

Diana

If you first heard last week - then using James shortcuts you would put the Monday's date just before you heard - but you are going to wait for the 'real' form now - so it that is irrelevant now - the real form will have the date on it...

I am going to call Tuesday and if they say it has gone out or is on its way, i will put next Monday's date on - the 23rd

I have 3 forms ready with 3 dates on 23rd, 30th and 6th august !

phew - I thought there had been a change of system at NVC and panicked - i know they hate to use the word 'generated' now and refer to 'the pack being sent out' - they sounded quite irritated when i said 'generated'

i reckon you will receive it any time now...

whizz it back in and bob's your uncle, fanny's your aunt and you are finished with nvc !!!! wont that be nice...

Yeah, they didn't like the fact that I used the word "generated" either for some reason.

Well, it's just the fact that I got the "missing info" regarding the payment and not the actual DS-230 that threw me off. If I had called and they had said the message was regarding the form and not the payment I would've sent that sucker right then and there. But they got themselves all tied up in a knot and threw my "shortcut" process out the window.

Shoot, 3 months at the NVC and I was hoping for 2, maybe 2½ max. Shucks.

Oh well - at least you will be sending the 'genuine' form in and not have to worry about whether you have faked it correctly like I will..
Yes you win some and lose some along this line and so far I have had lots and lots of trouble but my timetable is still ok despite it all...

The line for the medical could be 4 to 8 weeks and the interview can also be 4 to 8 weeks so I suppose we just dont know how long it will be until visa in hand... then we can worry about whether the green card will be wrong or lost !

Once I get that thing i am having it waterproof sealed in plastic and strapped to my body with 2,000 lb breaking strain cables !

anyway you and i are at the same stage and passed all the sticky things that could arise on th 864 form which trips some people up - the remaining paperwork is nothing really

carolyn is here in the uk so we had to satisfy them on domicile too on the 864 so phew thats in the past now...


So on tuesday i have to frame my question correctly- if i say 'is the visa form generated' they will get prickly so i have to say 'is the final immigration package' on its way to me ? thats sounds ok...