The visa Adjudication Process- Flow chart

1. The process starts when the applicant schedules a visa interview.
2. Applicant goes to post
3. Us. Embassy./ U.S. consulate- consular section
4. Applicant is reviewed by consular officer and name entered into CLASS. Applicant interviewed at post.
5. Consular officer deterimines if the applicant is eligible to receive the visa, including using discretion to determine if a security advisory option <SAO> maybe needed: this would include looking on the Technology Alert List < TAL> to see if field/ area of study of applicant falls under TAL.
6. If SAO is not needed then…consular officers decide to issue or deny the visa.<<<< the end >>>> OR
7. If SAO is needed…..then Inter- Agency Mantis check.
8. Security Advisory Opinion prepared and forwarded to post.
9. Consular officer then decides to issue or deny visa to applicant.




source
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05198.pdf

Thanks



I spoke to a guy - was nice - I think he was new, the voice was unfamiliar, & I didn't catch his name.



So good to hear from you Mary - I miss you but I'm sure you're enjoying time away and with your family... tell JP we're praying for him... and good luck w/ the job hunting. Thanks for the encouragement and well wishes...

does anyone know about FOIA?

freedom of information act?

what do you need to know about FOIA Shon?

nothing, zip, nada.
I was thinking some how we can find out more about our cases though FOIA.
I found a link.

http://www.usdoj.gov/04foia/servicecenters.htm

Talked to Rochelle at the DOS. She is one of the nicer ones! But unfortunately she didnt have anything to say either. Case is sitll under administrative processing. Even though no more clearances were ordered. The embassy is just sitting on the case.

Even if they have there visa review meeting it didnt help. I swear I dont know what to do! When is this hell going to end?

I am seriously thinking of just giving up on this immigration stuff, asking my wife to move to Pakistan and just start looking for jobs here.

If I were you I would get a job first try to get settle down and then ask my wife to come over. In that way you won’t feel much about this “VISA SAGA”
Life and Immigration two different ‘streams’ let them roll concurrently

yes, thats what I am going to do. From tommorow no more trying to do different things for visa. Concentrating on dropping my resume and seeing what happens. May Allah guide me through these testing times..

thats the way to go,

Best of luck. the best thing (Web Sites) to search jobs in Pakistan and middle east

www.workjunction.com (specifically for Pakistan)

www.bayt.com (Pakistan & Middle East)

May Allah give us all patience Michigan -- insha'Allah you will hear something soon ... have you (or your SO) tried calling the embassy and speaking with a CO to see what the hold up is? Maybe that will give you some insight.

ali.
is there something in the water? Javed is thinking the same thing. he is very frustratied. he said there
is no system here just waiting and no answers. He said if the embassy ever calls him he will say.
" give me my dayum passport back" he dont want to come here. I asked him what kind of life is that
for me and him? does he really want me to move to pakistan? what about my education? I am graduating next year so I have to give that up and not attend law school? he said oh god I dont know. this is crazy.
I ask him did he love me? he said of course he loves me. I told him that some how we will get past this stuff. Right now he is feeling so upset. I cant do anything to make him feel better. not a thing. maybe tomorrow he will be in a better mood.

it dont help reading CNN the illegals pay some F - up fee to stay here. we all do this the legal way and get told " wait in the corner" while they poke and pride in our lives! This is not fair!!
I think this what prompted Javeds frustration - dayum CNN- SU Gente!!!! grrrr

you both have to cheer up. I know this is very hard. harder because you have been going thought this too
long. but, dont give up and dont give in to the G. Dubyas!!!! (((( huggg)))))))

lol! I wish I could talk to a CO. The Pakistani employees think that they are Gods and never put you through to a CO. Oh well. I have emailed them regarding this.

I was told by a CO in the email that the security clearance is the only thing pending in my case. If they have the SAO now, just give me an answer. So I can go on with my life! Just ridiculous!

My wife's doctor will be providing a letter that my absence is having negative effect on her health and I am the only family she has that can take care of her. I will fax that to the DCG when I get it in the next week.

I agree. takes so much effert to talk to a CO. The best way to talk to a CO - is to come up with a way to make the situation urgent. the hard part is actully having the people answer the phone. they never pick up.
the phone rings for ever last time I talk to CO I kept saying this
" I am an american, I demand to speak to an american please"

when someone say hold on..
I would say the statement over nothing more til the CO.. comes to the phone.. try it.

I have a medical issue. I have a brain tumor. I never thought of using it for the visa to be expedited..

why dont they just give the visa, whats taking them so long. JUST GIVE IT ALREADY. i mean i can understand if its only been less than a year, but some people have been waiting well over a year now. WHAT THE HELL is going on?

TWO words for SHON and Michigan..
Cindi and Manzar SHAH= 18 months of bs
togtether at least for the last 3-4 months

You two be strong, tell Javed quit whining , his life is better off than before 3 years ago, because we
ther you are here or there you are in his life

and michigan, look at borther Mo 9 or 10 months on AR and he has been running around in the california sun for that last 6 months.

when you have to adjust to Goras world then you willb e missing the homeland, enjoy time with your family, it could be a few years before you can go back to visity PK.i dont trust these travel waivers to send Manzar back home for his little brothers wedding

G. Dubya-ment
right now he is not thinking about the legals..




I know what you mean cindi. i will tell Javed stop his whinning

dear Cindi! I am sure u went through hell hole with immigration i have been married for 4 years now! So basically dealing with this bull crap for 4 years now!

Its frustrating that u dont break the law do everything according to law and people who follow rules are being scrutinized!

4 years? dayum

Hi michigan, I see your timeline starts from 2004. If you were married 4 years ago, why didn't ypu apply for him sooner? Or is it that immigration took you 4 years? I don't think it can take that long. I am sorry to hear this but can u plz tell me what happened in your case and why 4 yrs? Did u apply after 2 yrs of being married or what?

well yes! I was on F-1 never bothered filing! Got some bad advice from lawyers. So when visa expired decided to come back instead of living illegally in the US. Which was the biggest mistake I mean in my life!

If you were on F1 then you didn’t complete your degree? I think you didn’t graduate that was the reason you didn’t get a change to move towards OPT or H1. By the way which school you attended in MI?

Hi Everyone,
Well As U know today Was My Interview,
0o0oh Was Really Stress full Waiting And Whole Process i Reached to Shuttle service at about 6, and Atlast Came out Of Embassy At About 12:45...

Will Inform u ABout Whole process LAter, As i m Not Home Yet.

Well Interview Was Ok 1st i got Interviewd at window 6 By a pakistani man then After ABout 2 hours a American lady Called Me at Window 3, And asked Many Questions, i WIll mention later tomorrow InshaALlah.

Well She Said We need to d Some more process on your Case and it may Take From 6 to 8 weeks, And She Aslo Asked me To Give My Full Set Finger Prints, She Said I Can Coem LAter For it i said No I Cant as i Live In Other City, She Said ok u Can Do It Now If U have Money it Costs 85us$.

So i Did , The Later Requestiong The Finger printing was Light Green Color.

And She Did Not kep my passport gave back to Me, but Stamped on last Page Of Passport the Stamp Contains THis text "IV Unit ISLAMABAD 9 jun 2006"

and it mentioned in otehr White Letetr that it is Administrative Processing they r going to Do Now.

i m Worried What Exactly Will happen now, and is it Sign of bad luck?
How much time does it takes? What R Our Rights?

:S

afif..sounds like everything is fine. you got the 221g admin. processing this is the steps..
now comes the security checks. once done they willl call you in and issue the visa.
in the mean time you gotta wait til the checks are done. in about 2 weeks or so.
have your wife call Department of state and check on if the security checks are cleared.
thats all you can do til this mess is over. have patients its gonna take several months.



The visa Adjudication Process- Flow chart

1. The process starts when the applicant schedules a visa interview.
2. Applicant goes to post
3. Us. Embassy./ U.S. consulate- consular section
4. Applicant is reviewed by consular officer and name entered into CLASS. Applicant interviewed at post.
5. Consular officer deterimines if the applicant is eligible to receive the visa, including using discretion to determine if a security advisory option <SAO> maybe needed: this would include looking on the Technology Alert List < TAL> to see if field/ area of study of applicant falls under TAL.
6. If SAO is not needed then…consular officers decide to issue or deny the visa.<<<< the end >>>> OR
7. If SAO is needed…..then Inter- Agency Mantis check.
8. Security Advisory Opinion prepared and forwarded to post.
9. Consular officer then decides to issue or deny visa to applicant.

so why is it that some do the full set at the interview and others later?

Finally a Good news here. AP/AR is completed both at DOS and Embassy. My Husband's case got adjudicated, and they gonna issue the visa soon, or I think they already have. But again this is verbal information and nothing in written yet. So hope they don't change mind again like they did a while ago.

All you out there, Be patient, GOD IS GREAT!!!

Wow, it is wonderful news Lari congratulations finally you are done. Of course 'GOD IS GREAT !!!'



In whole Immigration processes ‘Petitioner and Beneficiary’ have no rights lol.
Just sit down and wait until Islamabad reply you.

Omid -
sometimes the full set of finger prints is a request that the embassy gets later on from DOS.
jess I think her husband had full set of prints later in her AP process..

good luck to everyone next week

Omid, either a result from one of ur security checks from zour securitz advisorz opinion triggered the full set of finger prints. Or it could be that the embassz simplz forgot and later realized that you had not submitted the FPs.

what is everyone doing today? please post something GOOD!!!

Hi Every One Attention Please,
the Files Attached r The scanned Things What papers They gave Me And What They Stamped on My Passport.

Give me Suggestions your Opinions What Does It mean Actually?

And Will They interview me Again? Remember they Did Not kept My Passport, i Tried to left my passport but She Said They Will Contact me.
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i m Worried That what Will be the OutCOme of this Process.....
Pleaseeeeeeeeee Replyyyyyyyy

Atif you will have to wait out the processing. You got a 221g for administrative processing and this is normal for cases that they will look at more closely. You also have had a name hit in one of the many data bases. That is why they requested the full set of prints. I will say that you must pray for patience now. My husband got the same paperwork and it was not 45 days until we completed our processing. He interviewed on Dec 12th, 2005 and we just got adjudicated in May 2006.

You can have your SO call DOS in few weeks on Wednesday or Thursdays seem to be the updated timelines. They will not tell you anything while in AP but that they will contact the applicant once they are ready to resume processing. Just take it one day at a time and pray for patience and understanding.

Mary

first calm down.
secondly breathe..

Dont worry. basicly they are telling you that you have 221g. just like the rest of us.
plus they are adding a little more time because, they wanted FULL set of Finger prints.
in about 60-90 days < ask omid how long >
but your SO needs to call FBI see if the finger prints are done and cleared.
once thats done then they will continue with the name checks.

here is the number for the FBI

FBI Fingerprint Status (304) 625-2000

have case number and DOB of < alien>

Thanks Mary And Shon.

Where is The number Of FBI? And After How many Days i should Contact Them?

the longest AP/ AR case to date is 10 months..
God I hope that I dont beat that record.



I cant rember what omid said ..I think she said 6 weeks. but, I dont rember.
send her a message she will tell ya.

Best of Luck Shon InshaAllah your case Will be Done before that Record, is that 10 months record of Islamabad Embassy?

Atif

Mo's ID is Saf09 and he is now here and married and in California.

10 months AR after the interview.
I would have to look at my list. it was like 2 persons. one was sheila
I cant rember the other person .. I think it was cindi. not too sure.

Dear Atif! Relax! You were givensame exact documents as me! Not that I think its any better! But you and I have one more thing in common. The consular didnt give you 221G. In both of our cases OTHER was selected!

Dont worry relax and enjoy the ride! everything will be ok! Keep calling DOS and seeing the status of your security checks! Thats all you can do for now!

and another thing! Just like you my passport was stamped IV unit and returned to me too

Can you tell us what all questions the consular asked you?

Oh yes Aatif...i got the same paper just different is i didnt get 221(g) one i just got white one letter and they kept my passport so i dont know if they stemp the same as urs on my passport or not...and i got get blue letter just one white but its been a month since i went to interview and i heard nothing yet...so u also have to be patient...,like me.....and yes keep caling DOS they will let u know they let me know that they r doing one security check on me...but dont know how long it will take..,and yes please write ur all interview everything they asked u so this will help others..,and what paper work they asked u for i mean which evidance of releation..,all they asked me just telephone bills...no emails no chat sessions and pictures..,mine was easy interview i post it in K1 visa form u can read it there..,
u will get visa dont worry...just be patient
Allah hafiz

Ars! Please post your interview experience here! So all people going to embassy in ISlamabad can benefit from it!

ok on ur request interview was normal.., i went to embassy and than first they call my name on window number 5 and collect fees from me and ask me the language i would like to choose i tell them english..,and than.. he ask me to wait after hour they call my name on window number 2..,questions were

1) Who Applied this K1 Visa for you?
2) Do she have a pet? what is name of pet and what kind of?
3) Where Does she live?
4) Do she own a house or live in apartment?
5) Circumtance of how you Boths met?
6) Is this her first marriage?
7) Why her first marriage didnt work?
8) When you boths met as person and how long she stay in Karchi and did you stay with her?
9) Do you want childrens if not....why not?
10) Circusmtance of what you like about her?
11) What is her Father name?
12) What she do in USA? what is position and what is her Job?
13) How many Kids she have? do they live with her?
14) What is her date of Birth and what is your?

Than he looked at Forms he say oh you born in turkey? how long you have been in Pakistan? do you speak Urdu? i say yes he said in urdu Anwer me in Urdu language i answer in Urdu..,

15) Show me pictures of you together and telephone bills..... i did and he just return them to me after a quick look.., no question about pictures or telephone bills..,

16) What is her age? and what is your date of birth...,
17) Do you pay her something?... I just answer no he didnt ask anything else about this..
18) Do you want immigration benefits?......same as question 17
19) What will be her name after marriage with you?
20) Will She convert to Islam?

He gave me form and ask me to sign there i did..Than he ask do you know you have to marry within 90 days? i say yes he sign there and say ok...,

Than He gave me white paper saying Admin processing required before we can issue visa..., than he say give me your passport please.., he gave me token thats all was interview...

good luck.. we all wish you a speedy AP !!!

thought you would like some bathroom reading materials. have fun,


http://www.uscis.gov/lpbin/lpext.dll/inser...pter-32-21-46-3

good luck to everyone

Hello i would like to ask one question..probably this is stupid but ok the question is..,DOS issue visas or DOS only do security checks?? or embassy issue visas?

I think DOS provides the embassy with the Security advisory opinions and at the end its a consular's decission to issue visas.

That is true. The embassy makes the final decision on whether to approve or deny a visa. DOS does the security checks and does make a recommendation on how to proceed and the CO is the one with the authority.