ddx
May 28 2006, 09:44 AM
QUOTE(michigan @ May 28 2006, 06:18 AM)

Since this this is a Pakistani thread! Kuoon naa hum spanish kay bijaye Urdu main baat start karr dain! Lekin apnay Amreekan bhayee behno kay liye translate karr day to acha hay!
jee han ya tu bara acha idea hay...,khou na tamamam islami zabaney bolna shru ker dey yaha? hahah mager ek tarjuman key zaroorat bhi pareygey yaqeenan jo shayad app bun saqtey hay bhout lush push waley...java script:emoticon(';)', 'smid_27')
babybunny
May 28 2006, 10:50 AM
QUOTE(dude4084 @ May 28 2006, 11:01 AM)

shon said:
pwest, nothing, his lost friend is mind! and he is not my friend not more! Its people!
close..
pwest, nada, su amigo perdido es mente! y él no es mi amigo no más!
Su gente!
I said. well nothing, your frind has lost his mind and he is not my friend no more.
some people. < strong like the nerve of some people >
QUOTE(michigan @ May 28 2006, 04:18 PM)

Since this this is a Pakistani thread! Kuoon naa hum spanish kay bijaye Urdu main baat start karr dain! Lekin apnay Amreekan bhayee behno kay liye translate karr day to acha hay!
Hafiz spoke spanish to me first.. Pinche cabron
hafiz
May 28 2006, 12:52 PM
lol, always some hot biryani cooking up in here, i like that. NOw just imagine if husband and wife never fought, Like get into an argument. That would be no fun. Arguing and feeling sad is what brings them closer. So is similar here, lol with friends, arguing, fighting, sometimes swearing in other languages.
lol i was reading the old threads with doodwala and mike got into it. lol
ok time to go to off topics
michigan
May 28 2006, 02:52 PM
Ars bilkul sahi farmaya! Acha baat sunain! Aap nay DOS call kiya thaa? Kya bana?
PSoft
May 28 2006, 03:08 PM
[quote name='michigan' date='May 28 2006, 02:52 PM' post='220932']
Ars bilkul sahi farmaya! Acha baat sunain! Aap nay DOS call kiya thaa? Kya bana?
[/quote
Okay Janab Aj say Sirf Urdu mein baat ho gi Mug ko pata hai kafi log shoor karey gayee lekin urdu humari zaban hai tu buz aj say Urdu hi Urdu. Ap logo kay lyee mein nay Ahmad Faraz ki aik nazam attach ki hai.
wsalam
Ahmad Faraz ki nazam
michigan
May 28 2006, 04:42 PM
Lol Mazaaq aside!
So drum roll time! If there is such a thing called visa review meetings ( I suspect them, embassy and DOS denies them). It should be either on Tuesday or Wednesday....
Mera dil karay dakh dakh! Well I am not gonna get my hopes high! Did back in march!
babybunny
May 28 2006, 05:22 PM
QUOTE(michigan @ May 29 2006, 02:42 AM)

Lol Mazaaq aside!
So drum roll time! If there is such a thing called visa review meetings ( I suspect them, embassy and DOS denies them). It should be either on Tuesday or Wednesday....
Mera dil karay dakh dakh! Well I am not gonna get my hopes high! Did back in march!
Yes!!! there is..
it happens between the 1st- 6th of EVERY MONTH.
this is when AR/AP case Recommedations are adjudicated!!!
the embassy recommends approval with no objections- will send the case to DOS.
if the embassy recommends denial - it goes to NVC.
April it was held on 6th.
may it was held on the 3rd.

there are certain things that makes a case ready for the meeting one thing
is cleared security checks.

I will remind you. security checks is somethign that is not in control of the CO. all agencys must clear you. if anything is not cleared when you get to POE they will turn you around.
hafiz
May 28 2006, 06:13 PM
good luck to everyone this coming week
ddx
May 28 2006, 06:29 PM
QUOTE(michigan @ May 28 2006, 02:52 PM)

Ars bilkul sahi farmaya! Acha baat sunain! Aap nay DOS call kiya thaa? Kya bana?
abhi tak nahi na abhi ziada din nahi hua na..12 ko interview tha tu aaj 29 hay Co bool raha tha key 30 din baat contact kerna...ab 30 din tu saber kerna hi pareyga or Dos call Karoo tu samaj nahi aata keya bolon un sey..,khoi guidance do..,
Translation for those who concern..., (i havent called yet cos interview was on 12 and this is 29 and CO said contact after 30 days...so i have to wait but i dont know what to say to DOS for status so guide me
Sohnnie you mean..,cases send back again to Dos after Adjudicated AR/AP cases if Approval or if they denied send back to NVC...,?..or before Adjudicated?
PSoft
May 28 2006, 07:12 PM
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE for GOOD NEWS this week !![color=#CC0000][size=3]
michigan
May 29 2006, 07:04 AM
So are these visa review meetings at the end of the month or the begining of the month! I am confused!
babybunny
May 29 2006, 11:18 AM
QUOTE(ars @ May 29 2006, 04:29 AM)

QUOTE(michigan @ May 28 2006, 02:52 PM)

Ars bilkul sahi farmaya! Acha baat sunain! Aap nay DOS call kiya thaa? Kya bana?
Sohnnie you mean..,cases send back again to Dos after Adjudicated AR/AP cases if Approval or if they denied send back to NVC...,?..or before Adjudicated?
During the visa review meeting - cases placed on AR/AP are recommended.
if the case is clear no objections the embassy makes a recommendation.
if approval DOS, if denial NVC. all cases on AR/AP has to go to the DOS.
What happens once Embassy has decided to Recommend they send the case on AR/AP to
DOS for futher clearance. * providing its a recommendation for approval * where it gets futher
security checks. its a Cable that is sent - not the actual file, unless its a recommendation for denial.
once at DOS the case has to be cleared from all agencys. this is time consuming depending on several things name hits, type of security checks, how many etc..
once case is compleate the DOS sends a Cable response of information to the Embassy.
this could be case compleate for example. Then its up do the Embassy to decide what to do next.
they could order more security checks, depending on what the cable said. or they can issue the visa.
we have seen case compleate 2 times and still had more security checks orderd.
cons
May 29 2006, 08:34 PM
HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL!!!!
UPDATE:
these are the email responses i received from the embassy in the past couple of weeks. these are confusing answers to the questions i asked ragarding my husbands K3 visa(which he is on AR/AP at the moment) and CR1 case (which arrived at the embassy last month):
Dear Madam,
We have received your husband's immigration petition from NVC and we will send him the interview letter upon completion of his K3 case.
Thanks
IV Unit
Dear Madam,
Certainly he needs to appear for his IR1 interview but he will only be interviewed after we are done with the administrative process on his K3 case.
Thanks
IV Unit
Dear Madam,
We cannot predict the time duration and also as we will process his immigration case i.e. why he needs to appear for his immigration interview. No he doesn't have to wait for the security clearance on his immigration case but still the final decision is only upto the Consular Officer.
Thanks
IV Unit
is it just me or are their answers confusing? does anyone understand what they are saying in these emails??
also,my husband said that they took fingerprints of his index fingers only when he had his interview back in april. is that good or bad? i mean, don't they usually take prints of all fingers?
he also received some documents recently in the mail from the embassy. he did not send them anything but just wrote to them saying that all of his papers/info are already in islambad. should he fill out these documents?
thanks and good luck to everyone and their SO's!
molly
MaryandMian
May 30 2006, 09:26 AM
Molly,
Okay here goes two index prints are good. If full set he would of had a name hit already.
They are saying that your in AP now and once it finishes on the k3 they will interview for the IR1. I personally think you can have them merge the files like Shonnie and then they will issue the IR1.
The CR1 or IR1 visa will cancel out the K3.
Good luck,
Mary
ddx
May 30 2006, 11:53 AM
anyone knows the email address of DOS?
mikeH
May 30 2006, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(ars @ May 30 2006, 11:53 AM)

anyone knows the email address of DOS?
After 2 interviews, 2 bio metrics, 2 medicals, we got 5 e mails for AOS appoval. so far no green card no letters to wellcome to USA. it took 10 months for USCIS to approve my wife,s case. we made several info pass appointments. visited local USCIS about more than 10 times. wrote several letters to every one involved. it was hard work. good luck to every one.
PSoft
May 30 2006, 01:04 PM
QUOTE(ars @ May 30 2006, 11:53 AM)

anyone knows the email address of DOS?
I Think the only way to contact DOS is 'Telephone' No e.mail
QUOTE(mikeH @ May 30 2006, 12:17 PM)

QUOTE(ars @ May 30 2006, 11:53 AM)

anyone knows the email address of DOS?
After 2 interviews, 2 bio metrics, 2 medicals, we got 5 e mails for AOS appoval. so far no green card no letters to wellcome to USA. it took 10 months for USCIS to approve my wife,s case. we made several info pass appointments. visited local USCIS about more than 10 times. wrote several letters to every one involved. it was hard work. good luck to every one.
Mike,
Congrats, finally U got approval notice !! awesome !!
mikeH
May 30 2006, 01:53 PM
WE GOT THE GREEN CARD in the mail today. good bye USCIS. good luck to all of you , who are waiting for visa. Ater you get the visa, it is not over yet. its a long battle.
10 months of waiting. 2 interviews, 2 medicals. 2 bio-metrics. several visits to USCIS. lots of letter writing. finally it paid off.
MaryandMian
May 30 2006, 01:56 PM
QUOTE(mikeH @ May 30 2006, 01:53 PM)

WE GOT THE GREEN CARD in the mail today. good bye USCIS. good luck to all of you , who are waiting for visa. Ater you get the visa, it is not over yet. its a long battle.
10 months of waiting. 2 interviews, 2 medicals. 2 bio-metrics. several visits to USCIS. lots of letter writing. finally it paid off.
A very big congratulations to you Mike and Mrs.
Omid
May 30 2006, 02:00 PM
Congrats MikeH!!! You made it
babybunny
May 30 2006, 02:20 PM
COngrats mike.. now pass on the " GOOD NEWS MOJO" to us..
michigan
May 30 2006, 03:31 PM
I am confused! MIR says visa review meetings are at end of the month! and SJ is saying in the begining! Me confused!
babybunny
May 30 2006, 03:39 PM
QUOTE(michigan @ May 31 2006, 01:31 AM)

I am confused! MIR says visa review meetings are at end of the month! and SJ is saying in the begining! Me confused!
its held 1-6 of every month
I know because I talked to the dayum CO. if you wanna know call the dayum
embassy - yourself! always gotta sir up some shyit
michigan
May 30 2006, 03:55 PM
lol! ms. Shon! I didnt do anything, I was confused so I asked a question! Lol! so relax!
hafiz
May 30 2006, 10:15 PM
su gente, que
Lari
May 31 2006, 02:48 PM
DOS tells me today that they have sent a cable to embassy 1.5 weeks ago and yet no action on the embassy part. DOS says they have done what embassy had requested (Just one check) and now embassy has to decide what next. So far we heard nothing from embassy and they replied to my email with same AP pending response even though DOS has sent them a cable. So what should I expect? After DOS completes what is asked from them, will embassy get nice and issue the visa or what else? Any information? Thanks!
babybunny
May 31 2006, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(Lari @ Jun 1 2006, 12:48 AM)

DOS tells me today that they have sent a cable to embassy 1.5 weeks ago and yet no action on the embassy part. DOS says they have done what embassy had requested (Just one check) and now embassy has to decide what next. So far we heard nothing from embassy and they replied to my email with same AP pending response even though DOS has sent them a cable. So what should I expect? After DOS completes what is asked from them, will embassy get nice and issue the visa or what else? Any information? Thanks!
this happend to me 3 times
we got case compleate Oct ,nov, jan.
ultimately they ended up sending more security checks on us.
for you 3 things could happen..
1... they issue the visa
2.. wait til the visa review meeting and decide
3.. if you have not had a field investigation that could happen too.
4.. or order more security checks.
Lari
May 31 2006, 04:30 PM
Thanks Shon, I pray to Allah that they issue the visa now since we never got 221g From at the embassy. Passport was already submitted for visa. So I hope and wish they got what they needed and no more wait please... Already married more than 2 years now but not living with my hubby
Omid
May 31 2006, 04:45 PM
Insha'Allah everything will work out real soon Lari - hang in there.
hafiz
May 31 2006, 06:10 PM
yes soon
babybunny
May 31 2006, 07:32 PM
QUOTE(Lari @ Jun 1 2006, 02:30 AM)

Thanks Shon, I pray to Allah that they issue the visa now since we never got 221g From at the embassy. Passport was already submitted for visa. So I hope and wish they got what they needed and no more wait please... Already married more than 2 years now but not living with my hubby

yes you did get 221g. it means admin review/ admin processing.
if they dont issue the visa the same day. they give you a TEMP denial. they have to give
the visa the same day or give you an excuse. in this case they issued you a TEMP denial
but, to not add confusion you are placed on AR/AP. since you are applying for
IR1 expect field investigation next if you have not had it yet.
michigan
Jun 1 2006, 07:54 AM
DOnt worry Lars! Everything will be ok. 221 (g) is perfectly normal and u will hear from the embassy soon. It all depends on how common your husband is!
Try not to worry about a field investigation. F.I all depends on how satisfied the Consular was with your husband! Keep posting on here!
Lol. Today a few family members had an appointment for non immigrant visas. The females got the visas! but the the male was put into AR! Lol. The male was 55 years of age.. And has traveled to the US like 32 times! lol!
what is the best time to contact DOS should i wait 30 days to over or can contact before 30 days???
michigan
Jun 1 2006, 09:53 AM
You can contact them even now. It shouldnt be a problem. They can tell you when security clearances were ordered and if any one of them are cleared yet. Answers and details vary from person to person working at the visa services department
QUOTE(ars @ Jun 1 2006, 09:25 AM)

what is the best time to contact DOS should i wait 30 days to over or can contact before 30 days???
Lari
Jun 1 2006, 01:40 PM
Thanks Every One for your good wishes and I wish you all success and happiness too.
Let me make one thing very clear here:
Our AP/AR story is very different and infact very wierd from others or rest of you. I was at the embassy during the interview with my hubby. The interview went smooth and officer congratulated us and said you are approved for IV and you will get your visa in 2-3 weeks by mail and she kept the passport for visa. So we were not given and excuse or Form 221g or any word about AP/AR. We were only given a small token with a number to go and submit the fee for visa & passport delivery which we did. Later, when we called to see if the passport is mailed back, they told us on the phone that it is pending AP which was a new and shocking story.
From what I read here in others posts and experiences, they are told at the interview about AP/AR *BUT* in our case we were told, "Congratulation!, you are approved for IV". Unbelievable that we got back to AP/AR crap!!!!!!!
babybunny
Jun 1 2006, 02:29 PM
QUOTE(Lari @ Jun 1 2006, 11:40 PM)

Thanks Every One for your good wishes and I wish you all success and happiness too.
Let me make one thing very clear here:
Our AP/AR story is very different and infact very wierd from others or rest of you. I was at the embassy during the interview with my hubby. The interview went smooth and officer congratulated us and said you are approved for IV and you will get your visa in 2-3 weeks by mail and she kept the passport for visa. So we were not given and excuse or Form 221g or any word about AP/AR. We were only given a small token with a number to go and submit the fee for visa & passport delivery which we did. Later, when we called to see if the passport is mailed back, they told us on the phone that it is pending AP which was a new and shocking story.
From what I read here in others posts and experiences, they are told at the interview about AP/AR *BUT* in our case we were told, "Congratulation!, you are approved for IV". Unbelievable that we got back to AP/AR crap!!!!!!!
The embassy can not issue a visa to anyone unless they have cleared security checks!! it dont matter what country you are from these. security checks can last from a few days to 2 years. they do them at diffrent levels and there are diffrent reasons. its not the CO that ordered the security checks. it was a directive higher up. i said it once I will say it again. : supposed the CO granted your visa. what you think would have happend? you think your SO would have been granted entry in the USA?

infact he would have been turn around

not only that possible facing a 5 year bann for attempting to enter with a non valid visa. I know you would not want that fate. I have seen it happen. recently infact!!!
Thats why you have NOT been given a visa. like it or not thats the process. rather they call it
221g or AP/AR. TEMP denial is what it is really called . if it was really approved you would have visa in hand! 221g is the regulaton that prohibits issuing of a visa - its used to request more information.
your case sounds diffrent to YOU. but, not to use those of us that have been playing this game for a long time. most of us received the TOKEN. thats really nothing but a method of tracking your passport.
I am safe in saying everyone on this thread has studied AR/AP. I think you should gain a little knowledge by reading my signature about the Admin review/ AP process. Then you can certainly know what to expect.
denali_1963
Jun 1 2006, 02:58 PM
Hey shon thanks for pointing out the ar crap to me . I printed it all out and i am gonna read it all at work tonight (will give me something to do).
babybunny
Jun 1 2006, 03:05 PM
QUOTE(denali_1963 @ Jun 2 2006, 12:58 AM)

Hey shon thanks for pointing out the ar crap to me . I printed it all out and i am gonna read it all at work tonight (will give me something to do).
Hi allison!!!
I hope all is going well with your case!!

50 pages of reading material certainly makes for good bathroom reading.
just for update you guys..,we called DOS and we asked how many security checks requested and how many done and how many pending..,They say only one security check requested from embassy and we r doing this but its not finish yet..,
han michigan bhai aap key moushrey ka bhout shukriya mein aap key lia dua ker raha hoon Allah aap ko wo day dey jo aap key kouwaish hay
babybunny
Jun 1 2006, 04:56 PM
QUOTE(ars @ Jun 2 2006, 02:47 AM)

just for update you guys..,we called DOS and we asked how many security checks requested and how many done and how many pending..,They say only one security check requested from embassy and we r doing this but its not finish yet..,
han michigan bhai aap key moushrey ka bhout shukriya mein aap key lia dua ker raha hoon Allah aap ko wo day dey jo aap key kouwaish hay

Ar..this is good you know its only one pending. how long have you been waiting for this one check?
The security checks go through about 13 diffrent agencys in the USA.
this explains the delays. hang in there..
QUOTE(shonjaved @ Jun 1 2006, 04:56 PM)

QUOTE(ars @ Jun 2 2006, 02:47 AM)

just for update you guys..,we called DOS and we asked how many security checks requested and how many done and how many pending..,They say only one security check requested from embassy and we r doing this but its not finish yet..,
han michigan bhai aap key moushrey ka bhout shukriya mein aap key lia dua ker raha hoon Allah aap ko wo day dey jo aap key kouwaish hay

Ar..this is good you know its only one pending. how long have you been waiting for this one check?
The security checks go through about 13 diffrent agencys in the USA.
this explains the delays. hang in there..
i have been waiting from 2 weeks now...,
babybunny
Jun 1 2006, 05:26 PM
QUOTE(ars @ Jun 2 2006, 03:18 AM)

QUOTE(shonjaved @ Jun 1 2006, 04:56 PM)

QUOTE(ars @ Jun 2 2006, 02:47 AM)

just for update you guys..,we called DOS and we asked how many security checks requested and how many done and how many pending..,They say only one security check requested from embassy and we r doing this but its not finish yet..,
han michigan bhai aap key moushrey ka bhout shukriya mein aap key lia dua ker raha hoon Allah aap ko wo day dey jo aap key kouwaish hay

Ar..this is good you know its only one pending. how long have you been waiting for this one check?
The security checks go through about 13 diffrent agencys in the USA.
this explains the delays. hang in there..
i have been waiting from 2 weeks now...,
last time they told me one security check it took 44 days. - it was all clear.
this time its takeing 58 days..
I would say give it 30-90 days.
if this thing is pending 30 days get your congressman to inquire about your clearance check.
thats the best you can do for peace of mind.
one thing AR..
did the embassy send a cable to DOS? I am assuming they did..
if so the congressman should be able to give you a fairly quick response. * lets hope! but, give it 30 days.
17 days was the shortest security check I have seen from ISL.
how can i contact i congressman? i dont know who is our congressman and do we have to pay to congressman??? sorry i'm un educated with this process so congressman can make them work on pending security check?
thank u very much..
you are future lawyer

do u know urdu
babybunny
Jun 1 2006, 07:33 PM
1st. your wife has to contact the congressman in your behalf.
2nd. she can google search her congressman in the house of congress website.
3.. once there she will locate the congressman. then she fax in a privacy act statement and release form.
4.. call the congressmans office follow up with a phone call. follwing instant sendign of the fax.
in the fax include 1.. narrative of the situation 2.. documents like interview letters, 221g notice/letter.
rember add this phrase on all letters, emails and faxes....
In accordance with the Privacy Act of 1974, you and your staff are hereby
authorized to freely discuss any and all aspects of my situation.
hafiz
Jun 1 2006, 09:42 PM
good luck to everyone next week, i hope they update the processing times.
michigan
Jun 2 2006, 07:49 AM
No problem Ars yaar! Insha Allah it will be done soon! Too bad DOS doesnt tell you what check is pending. Acha keep calling the DOS every week or so. Everything will be ok! DOS updates every week for so. The updated last on 23rd, then on 1st so on.. So check after that!
I have a list people who are nice at DOS and the not so nice ones too! Go by that. Dont even talk to the visa specialist in the not so nice list. The will not only be rude, but wont help u in any way either.
Omid
Jun 2 2006, 02:23 PM
Just an FYI for anyone waiting on fingerprints - called the FBI this morning... they said their current processing times are 10-12 weeks... my fiance's were taken on April 13th so they said it should be done by mid July...
hafiz
Jun 2 2006, 04:00 PM
good luck to everyone next week, have a good weekend, keep in touch
hafiz
Jun 2 2006, 04:45 PM
i still cant get over doodwala swearing in urdu at mIKe in the old archive post
denali_1963
Jun 2 2006, 04:47 PM
Just wanted to say hello to everyone. HELLO
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