He's like one or two years above 40. Is there a list of common names? Honestly, i've never heard of any other person with my dad's name because it's such a weird name, but then again who knows! This would be like his 3rd interview since he's had 2 AOS' in the U.S. but was denied each time because I-212 requires you to leave the U.S. before it starts processing, which he needed. From what I know, both times he took his fingerprints he didn't have ANY hits, but then that was the U.S. and this is a consulate so I dunno what will happen. I'm praying for some reform and quick AR/AP.

Well good thing is that he has a uncommon name! Thats definitely good! Bad thing is if he a couple years above 40, he will definitely have to go through AP! Dont worry, you should be ok! If u have any questions, feel free to drop me a PM.

Also when is his interview?

er my parents forbid me to share that with anyone, they haven't even told their own parents... their suspicious I suppose so I just can't share it. It's within a few weeks. Eh, its also a family based though?

Good luck on your family based petiton. I know most men are getting AR/AP and have heard of even a few older ones. Just take and mentally say I might have to endure this and it helps. If you do not then you are most fortunate. And rely on your faith and ask for patience and understanding. I also need to say welcome to the Islamabad forums.

Mary

Well :-( lol
does a high priority applicant adjuster change the AP/AR review a little maybe?
My dad's friend is aroudn his same age over there, he also left voluntarily like my dad from the exact same city and exact same church actually and had a family based petition. My dad said that his friend said that he had no problems relating to security and recieved his packet (the one they give you and tell you to not open before a officer does when you arrive POE) within a few days in the mail.

if you wanna know more about AR/AP
read here...makes for good bathroom reading!

http://www.wolfsdorf.com/articles/Consular...50524.htm#_ftn5



no 2 cases are alike. your father is in his 40s. the odds of AR/AP are likely
read the AP/AR i have sent you.

WOAH its long... haha i'll have to read it one day. Why is a 40 year old man more likely to have AR/AP than a younger person, say in their early/mid-20s and early 30s, which would be like the most targetted age by terrorist organizations. Just wondering. Hopefully he won't need AR/AP. Another question, would it be a good idea to get a letter from the community he lives in over there and from our community for all the good services he's done possibly, would that help? haha just wondering. I'll find out soon enough :-)

wrong... age 16-79 read the pages..as far as good citizen letters..
they work thats why we contact the congressman and sentator 1001 times. good luck!

LOL even at the age of 79 people are getting AR/AP? lmao, what's wrong with our country. I don't think they understand that 99.9% of the people in the T26 nations are NOT terrorist.

as it stands now on May 2006 . Pakistan is one of the T-26 country. why its on the list is
beyond me. while most of us agree pakistan is not a terrorist country- Condalizza Rice
disagree. The CO at ISL embassy was given instructions to perform what is called
at CONDOR check on all Petitions with Name hits. That includes anyone with common names.
The COs hands are tied. wanna know why????? because, even if the CO was and decided
hey like canuhandleit - he interview well the direction did not come from his bosses it came higher
up! when you got at POE - they would turn you right around.

as for expediting the security check only ATTNy General and Sec of def. and of course
the president can expedite the security check process. but, then they made the damm rule
anyways.

I supposed the only way to get thougth this AR/AP hell is not to get all pissed off about it.
but, just deal with it. talk to your family members and plan 1001 times your precious
family reunion. that is the only thing that is keeping me sane.
I am a victim of AR/AP hell- 8 months and 21 days.

Well, I mean we do have friends higher up in the food chain (not the president or attorney general or that high) that have expedited everything they could legally. I think they may have done most of the secruity clearance on him also, this is going to be his 3rd security clearance, the 1st and 2nd came out clean too but those were in the U.S. If it comes down to it, I suppose i'll be ready to handle it. Eh, if that reform bill passes I have nothing to worry about. I can wait for an AR/AP if they bring that law in, my dad is admissible with the program to legalize immigrants that were in the U.S. for atleast 5 years.

let me get this straight are you implying that the people on this board did not try the same crap you are intending to pull? alot of us wrote the VP and PRes. some even wrote condalizza too. there is NO ONE that can expedite AR/AP. do you think we like sitting on AR/AP from our family members? I have not seen my husband since my wedding day, you think I like this mess? you think we deserv it? no one on this board is telling you nothing diffrent at all. infact, everyone is making you aware its a 99% certainty. may it be 17 days to 2 years. its up to the bigg AR wizzards in the sky. you just have to deal with this and cope.

oh man this new law

Security clearances CAN be expedited by the power vested in the Secretary of State. Congressman and Senators dont have the power to the security clearance expedited

Isn't this new law adding more security checks? damn... lol

Salam …..
What happen to our thread these days? It is very quiet here? So where is everyone? What up guys? Well, we have been waiting for packet 4 from Islamabad I hope they will schedule our interview soon. (inshallah)
Good luck guys….

I am still hanging around and observing some and waiting on Ishteaq to firm up his tickets so I can post his homecoming. Hope everyone is doing well and we have more progress from Islamabad soon.

after two interviews and two biometrics, my patience ran out. we went to local USCIS and demanded to see officer incharge.after little arguments, the officer decided to approve my wife,s green card and stamped her passport.we r done for 2 years. thanks for your support and wish you all the luck.

we still have 1 security check pending. DOS said case is moving smoothly.. whatever that means

still ONE MORE? How common is your name? wow...
Anybody keeping up with this new law coming in? It's making good progress.

MikeH I am so pleased to hear that your able to rest now for 2 years and that your wife has her greencard. Congrats and best of luck to you both.

Mary

brother probably in paki culture they care about age differnece..living in pakistan dosent make me paki...anyway we TURKS dont care about age different and i guess this is nothing but numbers....according to the Islamic views this is "sunnah"....and there is nothing to think and amazed...this is cuple's intention not urs
wailakum selam gule gule

what the heck is wailakum selam gule gule? lol I don't use technological words like that.

oh yeah sorry i should write in this way well wailakum selam means (peace be upon u) and gule gule means Be Happy (turkish word)

oh cool mike.. finally!!!




my husbands name is very common
javeds name means forever - they were not kidding. this process is taking forever.



AR
you made it this far dont worry.


thats pretty good.
its kind of like mixing english and spanish
then you get spanglish. lol..

this is like urturk

oh okay...
Javed is common? never heard of that name before but then again I don't live in Pakistan.

with so many people most names are common names

in pakistan

Javed is a very common name actually! It doesnt get any more common than Javed!

Watch were you tread ALI!
talk about common!

Dear Madam,

A search of our files indicates that this case is still undergoing additional
necessary administrative processing as part of the security clearance procedure.
Visa applicant affected by additional screening should expect delays before the
case is concluded. It is difficult to predict the amount of time that the
clearance process will take. As soon as it is complete, we will contact the
applicant for continued processing of the visa application. Also, your
husband's immigration case is still under administrative process.

Thanks

Hey Shonnie,

See you got an update and now your in AP. Hopefully, since you had the AR you will not be in this much longer. I am hoping next visa review meeting you and Javed have good news. Mingie thinks so.

C o n r a t s Mike

brother probably in paki culture they care about age differnece..living in pakistan dosent make me paki...anyway we TURKS dont care about age different and i guess this is nothing but numbers....according to the Islamic views this is "sunnah"....and there is nothing to think and amazed...this is cuple's intention not urs
wailakum selam gule gule


Wasalam,
If you are not Pakistani then why you are living in Pakistan? and What is Sunnah? Do get married or Marry to 32 years old woman?

Lol Mianishqrose, this is actually a generic reply the Embassy sends to everyone I have several of these emails with the SAME EXACT response that is mentioned on here! Lol, hell they even send this response to my lawyer too!

lol



I am neither talking to you nor talking about your husband. I am marely replying to Canuhandleit's post as he/she didnt know if Javed is a common name! So dont take everything personally!

all i am saying is all names are common in pakistan, because there are so many people.

i mean no one is taking a poll to see who has what name, give me a break

well usmani kalifa's family have no place in turkey anymore so some r in france some in uk and one in pakistan....sunnah means getting marriage with older is sunnah...,and this is not prejudice and against islamic laws and teachings..,so what is there to make a fun on this?
wailakum selam

[quote name='michigan' date='May 18 2006, 09:53 PM' post='204265']
Lol Mianishqrose, this is actually a generic reply the Embassy sends to everyone I have several of these emails with the SAME EXACT response that is mentioned on here! Lol, hell they even send this response to my lawyer too!

lol

[quote name='mianishqsrose' post='204068' date='May 18 2006, 11:10 AM']
Hey Shonnie,

See you got an update and now your in AP. Hopefully, since you had the AR you will not be in this much longer. I am hoping next visa review meeting you and Javed have good news. Mingie thinks so.
[/quote]

I am neither talking to you nor talking about your husband. I am marely replying to Canuhandleit's post as he/she didnt know if Javed is a common name! So dont take everything personally!

[quote name='shonjaved' post='203957' date='May 18 2006, 10:35 AM']
[quote name='michigan' post='203693' date='May 18 2006, 05:20 PM']
Javed is a very common name actually! It doesnt get any more common than Javed!
[/quote]
Watch were you tread ALI!
talk about common!
[/quote]
[/quote
SU GENTE!




Wasalam,
If you are not Pakistani then why you are living in Pakistan? and What is Sunnah? Do get married or Marry to 32 years old woman?
[/quote]

well usmani kalifa's family have no place in turkey anymore so some r in france some in uk and one in pakistan....sunnah means getting marriage with older is sunnah...,and this is not prejudice and against islamic laws and teachings..,so what is there to make a fun on this?
wailakum selam
[/quote]

AR...

I dont think Imran is making fun of religion he is not like that - NO one on this thread is like that.
what is boggling the mind is your relationship with 32 year old lady. hey whatever floats your boat right
you have to prove your case. its just strange but so is a old man marrying a 21 year old. so far you have proved your case. so dont worry about that. pray and hope for a speedy AR thats what we all want for you and ourselves.

well, just for information.

1) My father name is Javeed
2) One of my class fellow was Javeed
3) Colleage name Javeed
4) Neighbour Named Javeed
5) A person working in our Market has name Javeed
6) one of my regular customer named Javeed
7) Name os a Salesman working at my uncle's gas station is Javeed

and now shonney's husband is Javeed too

I still remember shonney's wish that Javeed might had name "fkjdkl dsfkjdsfh fdjksfhdsjk". Hence having ZERO hits at DOS. LOL

-Dude

yes you are right shonjaved...well i proved it and the good thing was Consular never question me about this..,he wasnt intresting in looking at proves i show pictures he say no its ok i belive you boths met...,but the what is still confusing me is when i asked him how long this admin review take? he said this is admin processing not a review...,but still i got no clear answer what is this some say AP is same as AR some say its different what is ur ideas about this?
thank you very much

No they are not the same.

I. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW
"Administrative Review" refers to a Consular Official placing the case "on hold" because the Visa Petitioner or Beneficiary FAILED TO PASS the security name check or background check, or because the Consulate or State Department or Homeland Security NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE some issue or matter in the case more closely. Cases placed into Administrative Review can ADD WEEKS OR EVEN MONTHS to processing time and final decision on visa issuance, typically in most cases AT LEAST 4 to 8 weeks additional time. Under current regulation, there is no right of appeal within State Department or Homeland Security for administrative review status. It is suggested that visa petitioners and beneficiaries keep track of the status of their case as best as possible, and secure, if possible, the reason or reasons their case has been placed into administrative review, which at least helps to relieve some anxiety during the waiting time.

ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSING
Can be a field investigation to your home or job, they go and make sure marriages or relationships are valid and that the documents submitted are proper and to rule out fraud.

You can have AR and then AP as well during your processing and in either case a congressman or senator CANNOT help to expedite the cases. AP is also a black abyss without any details given. I know my husband was in it for almost 5 months and we could not find out any details other than saying we are in Administrative Processing.

Good luck.
Mary

oh thank u marry but he told me this will process in washington DC so would u like to tell me how can i know the status? and where to contact any email address??
thanks for ur detailed answer

You will not be able to find out much information while it is in Administrative Processing. But I did call weekly to DOS and ask them for an update or any movement on our case. It never changed from Dec 13th until earlier this month. I also suggest to call on Wednesdays or Thursdays of each week since they seem to update on these days.

Call DOS at 1-202-663-1225
Enter 1
Enter 0

You will get a live operator. They will ask for full name, date of birth, and visa applicant number. They will put you on hold and then come back and tell you any information.

I will say to be patient and it is taking some time. Omid is in AP as well and is still in the dark on her case since January.

Mary

AR
adding to what mary sayes. alot of times the terms AP/ AR is confusing.
this whole horrible security check process can last 19-2years..
take it one month at a time.

I want to let you know that the Embassy has its Visa Review meeting. The visa review meeting is for all
AR/AP cases to have a recommendation. this meeting happensaround the ENDing or beginning of the month. this is the time to start getting happy. this is the time when your case get to be ADJUDICATED. if it dont happen then.. wait for the next meeting.

Last month I think the meeting was held around April 6th. I dont know about this month
prouble around the same time. June perhaps around the same time..

8 months and 23 days - in AP

Shonnie it was the first week of May. I am looking at my files. I called DOS on May 3rd and that was the date I was told Mian had a letter sent to him to appear in person again at at the embassy. So the review meeting was the week before at DOS.

oh yess this is also the same day AMEX called us..

thanks shonjaved...so is this some kind of temporary denial? well we have no petition history or anything else like this..,but the consular gave passport to 2 boys before and say come later with passports when we will call..,but they wont give me my passport they keep it..now if i will have to travel somewhere how can i???is there is anyway to get my passport back? he gave me token so can i give them token and get my passport in case i will need to travel somewhere during visa process..,let me know please

I hope to get done by june 3rd...



221g is a TEMP denial. because, they cant issue a visa if they have not done the security checks.
COs have to give you someting when you walk out the embassy either the visa or an excuse.
in this case you left your passport got a token < this is a good thing >.
you were given 221g letter the good news when your case is done
they will just send the passport with visa stamp to Amex Courior- thats why you have the brown token..
understand now?

AR- I supposed you could DEMAND them give you
your passport back . I dont think you want to - right?

hahaha good but i got no 221(g) letter all its says is...,

The Consular officer has reviewed your immigrant visa application and determined that additional administrative processing required before we can complete your case.(stuff like this)

and the wiered thing is it was purple token not brown hahah

you got he same thing everyone else got. its really on how you look at the token
some say its brown some say its red. yours is purple. you have 221g what you think admin processing is?

ours even said 60-90 days. on blueish paper

Actually some people on the "blue" sheet get the 221(g) and some people get the "other" option checked.

Just like ARS they didnt check the 221G option but checked the OTHER option!

see attachment i attached it this is not even a blue sheet just one white piece of paper