yes AR/AP is shorter

Hafiz, the embassy is not issuing Doo doo except for the ladies they get visas.
men get NOTHING. there is a problem. or am I the only one that noticed?

hi vj members!

male from lahore

i am in a very bad situation, i had my interview on 20th april 2006, my i -130 interview, my wife is a USC.
at the end of the interview i was told i ll have to wait for some clearnace, just 2 fingerprints were taken off me , of both index fingers.

they asked me to wait for 45 days but its been more than 100 days now , i have not heard anything from embassy, each time i call them they say its under process. i called up DOS in washington on the 50 th day and inquired they said the clearnace was done but they ve found some info on my case and it again went for a re review.

the next day my wife called them to inquire and they told her tht the case is not with them call up islamabad. the following day i called up DOS again and inquired i was told the case is under review, i dont know why DOS have two different stories for wife and husband?

now just a week back my wife called up USCIS to inquire and was told the case is in not with them and he cannot tell anything on the phone and she will recieve a letter from USCIS in 30-40 days , but then my wife called up DOS and inquired they had the same story tht case is not with them.

could you please tell me wat to do and whom shall i contact ? plz..

no all i am saying is that if your wife(US citizen) is desi than you are more than likely to have a shorter AR/AP. Of course there is no guarantee on this, as all cases are different. but if you are not desi female(US citien) then for sure your will have issues. That marriage initself throws red flags all over the place. Why would someone go 7 seas across to marry someone. You better have a better explanation than oh we met on the internet.

nope thats not true.. who told you that LIE?
if that is true explain it to Dude and explain it to atif. while you are at is explain it to Canu.


NOT TRUE!
you making chit up hafiz..

you can meet on the internet. most of the people do. you be honest about it is not a crime. to go and marry someone is ok to again its not a crime. the problem that you MUST prove is that you are in a VALID relationship. thats all.

dude or dood

Dude.
they are two diffrent people..
Dood wala brought over his wife..
dude his wife is desi. he been in this crap 2 years alot longer than me.
Psoft he been through this longer than me and Dude. he alsoo bring over a wife..

well i am going with that k3. Let see what happens.

it will be good life lesson. Of course alhamdulillah i have alot of leverage(time, money etc) at this time so i can take this option. all the marbles are falling in the right place.

relax hafiz. your wife is getting visa in hand at the interview. is a FACT not an assumtion.
historicly ladies dont get denied.


give me a break! there are people on here Smarter than you and have penty of money
and are struggling with AP/AR. the only leverage is your bringing over a female.
if the tables were turned unless you are a DR. then you will see a long AP/AR.

well where is javed?

considering its 2 43am.
I would say SLEEPING..

well then i better get into medical school.

dr why doctor whats so special about them. do they give breaks to CO's at embassy. is it the financial aspect

go back and read what I said.


DRs and Nurses are high demand in the USA. there is even some kind of visa prefrence for them as well.

Hey Mates What Do u Think Involving Pakistani Foriegn Ministery Can help us?

No. they have no control over what the Embassy, DOS or USICS can do.
I would suggest contacting Ombudsman. I am in the process of doing just that.
when you do decide to seek help keep in mind.

1. has your AP/AR been longer than say 180 < business days >

congressman. ombudsman or anyone dont like to help when sitting on AP/AR.
thats why we are still in the abyss. Everyone is turning their backs on us.

the biggest concern that i have is.. the men are not getting approvals.
that really is alarming.

I forgot to add.
DOS, USICS, EMbassy each have Ombudsman.
I cant find the one for DOS. gagggggggggggg

180 Days

Sayapa ee aay wayeee

My I-130 was approved 14th of July, but I heard it takes really long after it is approved.
I only received the NOA2 so far, and my wife in Pakistan has received nothing.
We're waiting for the DS-320(Choice of Attorney Form)
I'd rather go with the I-129F(K3) after it is approved, since I heard it takes less time.
I just want to get my spouse here asap. I am tired of waiting.
We filed for the I-130 in the beginning of April, and we filed for the I-129F in the beginning of June.
I think the exact dates of the notices were April 12th,(for the I-130) and June 5th (for the I-129F, K3).
The I-130 was sent to CA, while the I-129F was sent to Chicago.
I can't wait until the I-129F is approved.
How long does it normally take for the spouse to receive the K3 visa after the I-129F is approved? Hafiz said two months. Is that correct? I heard it was like 3 weeks...
How long do most I-129F(K3 Visa) take to get approved? It's been two months for me and counting.

if you already paid the fees for CR1, sounds like you did. this will CANCELL the K-3 visa on ya.
since your I-129f has not been approved yet. might as well ignore it. coz the embassy will.
the bottom line is whatever petition gets to the embassy first will be the one she come on.
since the Cr1 is likely to reach the embassy. the K-3 will fizzle and burn. so keep persuing the
Cr1. even if you hold off on the fees at this point . the embassy already will know its comming.

Hiya there Adil....
Let me give you a summary of events for CR-1/IR-1 or I-130 that you just got approved for:
From USCIS it goes to National Visa Center or NVC where NVC will be assigning a case number for your petition and then you and your wife will be getting DS-3032 (choice of agent form) its waived only if you are using a lawyer. Also, in the same packet you will get a Fee bill for $70 for I-864 (Affidavit of Support form). Then it divides into 2 paths from there. DS-3032 path and I-864 path and they are totally independant from each other.
DS-3032 Path:
After sending NVC the DS-3032 back will generate IV visa fee bill for $380. After sending money order or certified check for IV visa you will then receive you DS-230 to fill out. After sending that back assuming that the review of I-864 is completed your case will be completed and will be send to the islamabad embassy
I-864 path:
after sending a money order or a certified check should trigger the generation of I-864 form. After sending it back and then them reviewing it and then receiving your DS-230 will complete your case to be send to the embasssy.
Now what you should keeep it mind is that it takes time for them each step of the way from them getting the forms and fees to move to the next step. On average it takes anhywhere from 3-6 months to get thru NVC but good thing is that people who went thru this step before you have created a lot of shortcuts that can get you some where from a month to 2 months time savings.
After your case gets to islamabad they will send packet 3.5 to your wife or the beneficiary. She needs to get the medical done and get a police certificate from the local police. In addition she will need to send the original birth certificate, marriage ceritificate, letter saying that you (applicant) have send off your I-864 to NVC and a filled out 2nd DS-230 both part I and II. After you send all this and they review them they give you an interview date.
As far as K-3 or I-129F goes as soon as its approved it gets to NVC where its send to the islamabad embassy. After it gets to the embassy they will send your wife a packet 4 which will have the interview date and a list of documents to bring to the interview. depending on how many months in advance is the embassy scheduling interviews your wife will get an interview date. from what I have seen right now they are giving out interview dates in Jan or feb 07 (someone please correct me if I m wrong since I m not that updated on the interview scheduling for islamabad).....
Please let us know if you have any more questions and we will be happpy to help you out. Also, you can also check the link in my signature to take a peek at interview experience of us.
Good Luck!

hi Joel
* shonnie is waving at you * nice to see you posting!!!!

Shon,
According to what I understand his I-130 was just approved by USCIS and they had gotten NOA2. So he still has to go theu the whole NVC hurdle.



hiya shon!!*waves back*
thanks!

true. but he said he is waiting for the agent of choice. which tells me he is closer to the petition getting to the embassy and fees are paid. this right there is an indication of the k-3 being a dead issue.


Adil
clairify ...did you pay the AOS fees?

I only paid the $190 fees when I filed the I-130 form.
As for the I-129F, I paid $170 just like everyone else.
Please help me out guys. What would be quicker? The regular I-130 or the K3?
Someone replying to my thread was saying that they are currently giving interview dates of Jan and Feb 07 for the K3. That is a loooooong time.
Is that including interview dates for I-130 as well?
BTW, do I even have the K3 option anymore? Based on what bunny was saying is that the I-129F will now be void.
Why do we people that marry internationally have to go through this torture?



Thank you so much for all that information!
You said "On average it takes anhywhere from 3-6 months to get thru NVC but good thing is that people who went thru this step before you have created a lot of shortcuts that can get you some where from a month to 2 months time savings."

What are those people, and what are those shortcuts?
Seems like I-130 will be faster than the I-129F, huh? You said they are giving interview dates of Jan or Feb.
Is that only for I-129F?
Won't my wife have to sign the DS-3032 form? Are they going to send a copy to both of us, or I have to send it to her after it arrives to me?
They only sent me a NOA2 so far, nothing else. I guess I am in the process of waiting for a case number now.

what is your prove. i would like some prove that once you pay the fees the k3 is dead. i dont think islamabad knows jack about one or the other. i bet you they dont know until the file arrive at embassy.
All you have to do is hold your forms and send them in slowly one by one, each form i believe does not expire for like 6 months.

of course if you send everything in, you k3 is DOA(dead on arrival) lol help give me cpr

i just spoke to one of my friend. His wife came here on k3. he applied for AOS and got the interview date in 3 months. got greencard in 2 weeks after the interview.

k3 rocks, k3 all the way

Hi;
Wow babybunny!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can you think that if someone is "waiting" on choice of agent form, that makes the case closer to embassy???????????????? I think after NOA2, case is assigned a case# at NVC, then choice of agent form is generated, then I-864, then DS-230. And, like hafiz said, you can hold on to I-864 and DS-230 to see if K3 reaches embassy before I-130.

BTW according to state dept. website, CR1 only rides K3 once it has reached embassy. if it is en route to embassy, it does not cancel CR1. here is link

http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegram...grams_1399.html

Why no one, except us1415 and hafiz, understood wht adil khan was saying????? Please read post carefully before responding.

Adil khan does not have enough info at this time. He thinks that after NOA2, he should be getting DS-230!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (he mislabeled it as DS-320 and no one corrected him).

Someone please post NVC flowchart here. so adil khan understands how many steps are there before case is sent to embassy.

us1415 I think jan.-Feb. '07 interviews are for CR1 not K3. K3 suppose to get fast interview dates.

Adil khan!!!! Please keep on with K3 as well. I know what your situation is!!!!!!!
You have filed so far for I-130 and K3. I-130 has been approved, ALHAMDULILLAH. Am I right?
Now case# will be assigned to I-130 at NVC. Call 603-334-0700 to see if it has been assigned a case#
then you will recieve DS-3032 (choice of agent) and AOS bill
then you send them back to NVC
then they send you I-864
then you send it back to NVC
then they send you DS-230
then you send it back to NVC
then, given everything is complete, they will send it to embassy.

Now!!!!!!!!!! before all this is done, your K3 INSHA ALLAH will be approved.
It will be assigned a case number and sent to embassy.

so there are chances that K3 will go to embassy before I-130, since you have option to be slow in responding to DS-3032, I-864, and DS-230 to have K3 reach embassy before I-130.

The only question I am asking this time is, "how far is embassy giving K3 dates?" any ideas?

I see at this point you did not pay the fees 390.00 <something. >
since, you have an approved I-130. your I-129f could actully be stalled. because the
I-130 take presidence. I -129f is ONLY for your wife to come to the USA to wait out
approval of I-130. since you got approval you dont need the k-3. since she has approval you could very well be forced to follow with the I-130 petition. since you got NOA1 the next steps is to get your AOS fee bill and Agent of choice...your other fee bills and packets.

your case is happening like what happend to Mary. the I-130 is moving faster than the I-129f.
what can happen at this point is the petition could reach the embassy and it could be cancelled because
the Cr1 takes presidence. now in my case, we got the interview of I-129f. and a month later got
approval on the I-130. they kept us waiting. once I paid the I-130 fees they processed the case.
they were not gonna issue K-3 visa. ultimately what happen 7 months on AP/AR. they cancelled it on us. I am a prime example of what could happen.


you know K-3 was not a postive step for
mary, michigan, dude, PSoft.
in light of IMBRA it makes it an even greater nightmare.




it dont take long once you send in choice of agent and the fees. everything is fast from that point
it took 2 months or less for my I-130 to get case compleate.
as far as the k-3 there is nothign he needs to send it.. it makes a quick visit to NVC and off to the embassy.
with the K-3 the embassy sent interview date in the packet. I been though the K-3 and Cr1 process already. let me tell you this. when javed interview for k-3 we had the option of him commin on it..
the moment my I-130 got approved little did I know ..but, my I-129f was dead. I am living proof!
you think I did not want javed comming ..I wanted him home right THEN. but, the embassy already knew I had I-130 approval and we spent months on AP/AR til the I-130 reached the embassy. only then did our case move. if you dont belive me talk to mary.

thanx for repin hafizg
yea she is desi .

baby bunny u do make sense:)

BTW according to state dept. website, CR1 only rides K3 once it has reached embassy. if it is en route to embassy, it does not cancel CR1. here is link


I never said CR1 cancells. K-3 cancelles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CR1 can convert to Ir1.
Thats not what happend to me, mary, michigan or Psoft.
I told you our K-3 reached the embassy. we interviewd. little did we know they cancelled it..
for 7 months we sat on AP/AR. thinking we will get k-3 visa WRONG we did not. they sent all the
papers to Javed in May. the K-3 is to allow your spouse to come WAIT for I-130 approval.
its supposd to be a fast visa but, we are all living proof its not. if thats is true all of us would be off AP/AR. rember Psoft is bringing over his desi wife.

Chat room is open if anyone wanna
shoot the breeze..

Wow... I do not want that to happen. I'd rather go with the K3, since those interview times are deadly. There is no way to cancel the CR-1...


Thank you for understanding me. It seems as if bunny was a victim of we're going through.

Psoft is an example of what can happen.
Mike H. is an example of what can happen at your wifes AOS interview!

Well well well

to wrap up the discussion I would suggest to keep your hopes with K3 and keep on responding to NVC. If you see that around the time when DS-230 is generated at NVC, K3s are being approved around your timeline, hold that DS-230. If you get K3 approval, tell NVC you will do adjustment of status so I-130 wont reach embassy. If there is no sign of K3 approval, then send DS-230 and wait as long as embassy wants you to. Once you do send it to NVC, it will most likely ride over K3.

But I think above is strategy is worth following since we already paid for K3. And it did work for hafiz.

babybunny!!! while I do see your point when you mention cases that had hard time going through this whole process, please also mention cases that didnt have problems. It doesnt hurt to be optimistic. And it relieves some stress to see cases that were easily successful.

I've been so stressed out because I was thinking that if I go with the I-130 and it takes 4 months to get the documents process finished then another 5-6 months to get the inerview date, it can easily take up to 10 months to get my wife here. WOW...
I want to go with the K3 and like to avoid the CR-1 somehow.
People with experience, please help.

what happens if you persue K-3 and it cancells on you?

The only difference in getting an interview date with either CR-1 or K-3 is that with K-3 you will avoid NVC and packet 3.5. Embassy gives them both the same interview date (assuming that the embassy has gotten all the paperwork back and have reviewed them for CR-1)....
If you want to go with K-3 there is no stopping you I have seen people getting their CR-1 at the embassy and getting a K-3 interview....so it should be fine.....as long as your CR-1 doesnt make it to the embassy.....

k3's get interview dates right away. lol shon is a strong proponent of cr1 lol man now i am having nightmares about my k3.



avoid cr1, no dont do that, dont avoid it. lol.

yeah they do give them right away meaning as soon as the physcial file for the case gets to the embassy they schedule the interview without having to go thru packet 3.5 but the interview date will be the same dates they will be scheduling for CR-1 at that time....

oh really joel, i was under the impression that k3 get dates earlier than cr1. currently interview dates for cr1 are for december probably about to hit jan 2007. i thought k3 dates would be different.

joel man you are up pretty early today

yup...thats usually the case......if someone's file is at the embassy for K-3 they will get the same interview date as a CR-1.......if its december for CR-1 then it would be the case for K-3 as well.....

I m always up early..... I get up around 4 AM everyday......

Nahi yarro it is not correct. Embassy schedule K/3 jaldi as compare to CR1.

when you say early does that mean if today there were 2 cases in front of them..a K-3 and a completed reviewed CR-1 they would schedule K-3 for October and CR-1 for december??

Yes sir .... K/3 ki dates jaldi hi milti hein ....

we need someone to verify that now.....cause when me and others were at the point of interview the embassy was giving out dates to everyone at the same time......

All right .. Hafiz will verify for us. As all we know that currently embassy scheduling for Jan 06. So wait for Hafiz 129F hit to embassy !! Hafiz good luck !!

Hey Everyone:)

Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend

My husband's interview is in November. As we all know, Pakistani males are put on AR/AP for sure.

I plan to go back right after my husband has his interview- I wonder if that will cause any problem later on during the AR/AP. Does anyone have experience with this?

I will not have any apartment lease once I leave. I will have my friends mailing address-which is the same place I am staying right now-as well as my bank accounts-and voters registration record. I already have a co-sponsor since when I was sending packet 3.5, I did not have a job.

Just wanted advise on whether anyone sees if it will be a problem or not.
Thanks for all your guys help:)

Have a great day!

saadeeh please be optimistic. dont worry inshallah you will not have any problems. Make lots of duas.

i will pray for you as well

yes joel k3 interview dates are early than cr1. They are working on different schedules. We have had a couple of people on this thread in the past month or so who got k3 interview dates in july. cr1 are for december, probably moving into jan. fooki has interview in dec for cr1. sqtb had k3 intervie date in july

Thanks Hafiz for replying:)
I am optimisitic about the whole thing since I don't really have a choice!
The thing is I don't know of any single male who hasnt been put on AP-thats why I just want to know if it was okay for me to go back and stay with him after the interview:)

Anything is possible Saeedeh !! May be your husband gets visa without any AP/AR as he is in Software industory and working for IBM he can also involves his company in this matter besides both of you are desi it is also a very positive point.
Just keep on praying .... Inshallah things will workout !!

may this will help if I say K-3 are supposed to be expedited visas.
so the dates could be earlier. when we had our k-3 interviews it was before some of those that had been
waiting longer than me.



you think so Imran? there is a security check designed for those in the sofware industry its called.
MANTIS security check.
Happy reading!
http://www.wolfsdorf.com/articles/Consular...ng_20050524.htm

Ok. It does make sense to have a different schedule for K3 interviews. Those two are different categories. CR1 is an immigrant visa, K3 is not. Still Hafiz sahab has to verify it for us.